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Navy photos of Submarine USS San Francisco in Dry Dock (you won't believe the extent of damage!)
U.S. Navy ^

Posted on 01/27/2005 12:42:24 PM PST by Boot Hill

The amount of damage is simply staggering!

That this boat ever made it back to port is a tribute to its designers, builders, and especially to the crew and captain. How does America keep finding men like these?


High resolution version here


High resolution version here


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: grounding; guam; navy; ssn711; submarine; usssanfrancisco
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To: IonImplantGuru

I remember more than once having to grab the joystick on an unexpected bell when the RO was "slow" to respond.


501 posted on 01/29/2005 9:31:27 AM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: Eaker; bruinsrme

Please read this. When you fully understand this post, then you will understand.


502 posted on 01/29/2005 9:36:08 AM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: bruinsrme
I always hated shooting the transit box. the game was to always be on the front end of the box because 1 trip to PD would easily cause the boat to suddenly find itself at the back end of the box, especially if a new opord was coming in.

That's why we worked so hard to give y'all a couple of extra turns on flank!

503 posted on 01/29/2005 9:38:39 AM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: Eaker
I posted from memory because you were too lazy to go back and look at the threads.

I didn't need to go back and look. My position stands and has been supported by others on this thread. The link you provided actually refuted your position in two ways.

1)It showed that my post was accurate

2)It showed that you were in error when you said I hadn't read the threads since your link showed I had about 15 posts to that thread. Thank you.

504 posted on 01/29/2005 9:42:36 AM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: CenturionM

Thanks. I had summarized what I guessed would have happened inorder for this to occur and you details fit very well.


505 posted on 01/29/2005 9:45:44 AM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: WildTurkey
My very first post was indeed accurate.

Yer welcome.

506 posted on 01/29/2005 9:48:07 AM PST by Eaker ("I am a Scientist ..................... and that was fast for me.")
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To: Eaker
My very first post was indeed accurate. Yer welcome.

According to you, I wasn't around for your first post (1999?) so I will have to take your word for it.

507 posted on 01/29/2005 9:52:16 AM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: Eaker

Interesting that you can provid NO information back you up, the link that you provided supports me and several other submariners have supported my position while none have supported yours. Interesting.


508 posted on 01/29/2005 9:54:18 AM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: Eaker
I posted from memory because you were too lazy to go back and look at the threads.

You mean YOU were too lazy to go back and look at the thread when you challenged my post and my integrity ...

509 posted on 01/29/2005 9:56:18 AM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: Boot Hill

It's interesting how they covered over the classified parts of the sonar assembly so they could show us these pictures.


510 posted on 01/29/2005 11:03:53 AM PST by CarryaBigStick
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To: SmithL
I'm sure if the people tank was penetrated the whole crew would have been lost. You sound a little on the uneducated side. 500 ft bellow the surface with a three inch hole = 27 seconds till the entire boat would be flooded. there just lucky the people tank wasn't penetrated. Way to go EB!!!!!
511 posted on 01/29/2005 12:18:40 PM PST by labeckio (The war we fight now is against our own confidence!!)
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To: Hank Rearden

Yea..... It's called decom.


512 posted on 01/29/2005 12:21:03 PM PST by labeckio (The war we fight now is against our own confidence!!)
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To: Hank Rearden

Yea..... It's called decom.


513 posted on 01/29/2005 12:21:07 PM PST by labeckio (The war we fight now is against our own confidence!!)
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To: The Drowning Witch

Look at this!!


514 posted on 01/29/2005 12:34:58 PM PST by Jackknife (No man is entitled to the blessings of freedom unless he be vigilant in its preservation.-MacArthur)
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To: labeckio

I never said the boat wasn't well built. I am saying that the training and response of the crew helped save many lives. Even without a hole in the pressure hull, USS San Francisco could have easily sunk if the crew hadn't responded as they did.

When I reported onboard my first boat, USS T. Roosevelt, there were still people onboard that remembered when it bounced off an uncharted mountain. Like the 711, the 600 was in transit, and was at depth and speed. Unlike the 711, they did have flooding, but the force of the impact tended to bounce them toward the surface. The torpedo room was isolated, with personnel inside, and was pressurized to help keep out the ocean. The hull was repaired, and the boat served many more years, although it had a shallower test depth than the rest of its class.


515 posted on 01/29/2005 12:36:50 PM PST by SmithL (Uneducated, aye!)
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To: El Gran Salseron

Just because it has tracks doesn't make it a Tank! LOL


516 posted on 01/29/2005 1:29:39 PM PST by amigatec (There are no significant bugs in our software... Maybe you're not using it properly.- Bill Gates)
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To: Eaker
8 “This statement proves that you have not read the previous threads.”   --Eaker at #220

Who is it that hasn't read the previous threads?

When I review the record I find that, previous to that post, you had actively participated in a grand total of only one of the threads about this submarine crash and then only to make two short insignificant comments. Yet WildTurkey on the other hand, who you claim hasn't read these threads, has actively participated in nine of those threads, posting a total of 136 replies in them and sharing his considerable experience and knowledge as a submariner. Remind me, just what relevant experience have you brought to the discussion?

Your charge is foolish, reckless and unsupported by any of the record. I've grown tired of watching you argue and dodge your responsibilities in this matter, in post after post. You should be man enough to retract your imprudent charge and put an end to this ridiculous flame war you started.

--Boot Hill

517 posted on 01/29/2005 3:14:25 PM PST by Boot Hill (How do you verbalize a noun?)
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To: Boot Hill
OK, y'all are right.

About everything; whatever you say; everything you say.

I am not going to fight an "out of context" quote battle.

There, now can you drop it??

Too bad if you can't, I am done.

518 posted on 01/29/2005 3:25:38 PM PST by Eaker ("I am a Scientist ..................... and that was fast for me.")
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To: SmithL
The torpedo room was isolated, with personnel inside, and was pressurized to help keep out the ocean.

Was just having this discussion the other day about salvage air. He heard that the Navy was suppose to have removed salvage air from the boats in the 60's but I sure remember doing it in quals. Both the Nuc and Diesel had salvage air for all compartments.

SS Guy
519 posted on 01/29/2005 4:09:31 PM PST by SS Guy
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To: ChefKeith

THX.

Red6


520 posted on 01/29/2005 4:42:05 PM PST by Red6
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