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Thomas L. Friedman: Cut oil prices and tyrants will fall
NYTimes | Monday, January 31, 2005 | Thomas L. Friedman

Posted on 01/30/2005 4:37:51 PM PST by F14 Pilot

Thomas L. Friedman The New York Times Monday, January 31, 2005

DAVOS, Switzerland One of the most striking things I've found in Europe these past two weeks is the absolute conviction that the Bush team is just itching to invade Iran to prevent it from developing nuclear weapons.

Psssssssst. Come over here. A little closer. Now listen: Don't tell the Iranians this, but the Bush team isn't going to be invading anybody. We Americans don't have enough troops to finish the job in Iraq. Our military budget is completely maxed out. We couldn't invade Grenada today. If Iran is to forgo developing nuclear weapons, it will only be because the Europeans' diplomatic approach manages to persuade Tehran to do so.

For two years the Europeans have been telling the Bush administration that its use of force to prevent states from developing nuclear weapons has been a failure in Iraq and that the Europeans have a better way - multilateral diplomacy using carrots and sticks. Well, Europe, as we say in baseball, "You're up."

"I think this is an absolute test case for Europe's ability to lay out its own idea for a joint agenda with the United States to deal with a problem like Iran," said the Oxford historian Timothy Garton Ash, author of "Free World: America, Europe and the Surprising Future of the West." "OK, we think bombing Iran is a bad idea. What is a good idea?" For the Europeans to be successful, though, Ash said, they can't just be offering carrots. They have to credibly convey to Iran that they will wield their own stick. They have to credibly convey that they will refer Iran to the Security Council for real sanctions, if it is unwilling to strike a deal involving nuclear inspections in return for normalized economic relations with the West.

"Very often there is the notion that Europe is the soft cop and the U.S. is the hard cop," Ash said. "Here it must be the other way around. Europe has to talk as credibly about using economic sanctions as some in Washington have talked about using military force."

The United States has to help. The carrot the Iranians want for abandoning their nuclear program is not just unfettered trade with the West, but some kind of assurances that if they give up their nuclear research programs, the United States will agree to some kind of nonaggression accord. The Bush team has been reluctant to do this, because it wants regime change in Iran. (This is a mistake; we need to concentrate for now on changing the behavior of the Iranian regime and strengthening the reformers, and letting them handle the regime change.)

If multilateral diplomacy is to work to defuse the brewing Iran nuclear crisis, "the Europeans have to offer a more credible stick and the Americans need to offer a more credible carrot," Ash said. But the Europeans are not good at credibly threatening force.

That's why this is a serious moment. If Britain, France and Germany, which are spearheading Europe's negotiations with Iran, fail, and if the U.S. use of force in Iraq - even if it succeeds - proves way too messy, expensive and dangerous to be repeated anytime soon, where are we? Is there any other way the West can promote real reform in the Middle East?

Yes, there is an alternative to the Euro-wimps and the neocons, and it is the "geo-greens." I am a geo-green. The geo-greens believe that, going forward, if we put all our focus on reducing the price of oil - by conservation, by developing renewable and alternative energies and by expanding nuclear power - we will force more reform than by any other strategy. You give me $18-a-barrel oil and I will give you political and economic reform from Algeria to Iran. All these regimes have huge population bubbles and too few jobs. They make up the gap with oil revenues. Shrink the oil revenue and they will have to open up their economies and their schools and liberate their women so that their people can compete. It is that simple.

By refusing to rein in America's energy consumption, the Bush administration is not only depriving itself of the most effective lever for promoting internally driven reform in the Middle East, it is also depriving itself of any military option. As Richard Haass, president of the Council on Foreign Relations, points out, given today's tight oil market and current U.S. consumption patterns, any kind of U.S. strike on Iran, one of the world's major oil producers, would send the price of oil through the roof, causing real problems for our economy. "Our own energy policy has tied our hands," Haass said.

The Bush team's laudable desire to promote sustained reform in the Middle East will never succeed unless it moves from neocon to geo-green.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: attack; blair; bomb; bush; cheney; diplomacy; energy; energyprices; environment; eu; geopolitics; iaea; iran; iraq; islam; military; mullah; nuclear; nuke; occupation; oil; price; proliferation; southwestasia; terrorism; thomaslfriedman; tyrants; usa
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1 posted on 01/30/2005 4:37:51 PM PST by F14 Pilot
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To: F14 Pilot
Tom, Tom, Tom...
100,000 troops will not be billeted in Iran. There will be no American PX.
2 posted on 01/30/2005 4:40:31 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: F14 Pilot
...by developing renewable and alternative energies and by expanding nuclear power

Oh, yeah, that's SURE to be a hit in Marin County.

3 posted on 01/30/2005 4:41:02 PM PST by thulldud (It's bad luck to be superstitious.)
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To: F14 Pilot

"America is a strange country. All of its best generals are journalists." Defense Undersecretary Douglas J. Feith


4 posted on 01/30/2005 4:41:22 PM PST by Lexington Green (Follow the money - Saddam to Rich to Clinton)
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To: F14 Pilot

we could take on iran easily - if we drop the "liberation" stuff and just go in and destroy strategic targets.


5 posted on 01/30/2005 4:42:46 PM PST by oceanview
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To: F14 Pilot
If Iran is to forgo developing nuclear weapons, it will only be because the Europeans' diplomatic approach manages to persuade Tehran to do so.

I can talk a tiger out of eating me, too.

6 posted on 01/30/2005 4:44:26 PM PST by jsmith48 (www.isupatriot.com)
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To: F14 Pilot

Loo ny, Loony Loooooooony.

"Is there any other way the West can promote real reform in the Middle East?"

I guess tom missed the election today.


7 posted on 01/30/2005 4:45:39 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: F14 Pilot
"If Iran is to forgo developing nuclear weapons, it will only be because the Europeans' diplomatic approach manages to persuade Tehran to do so."

Almost fell off the chair reading that one...

For two years the Europeans have been telling the Bush administration that its use of force to prevent states from developing nuclear weapons has been a failure in Iraq and that the Europeans have a better way - multilateral diplomacy using carrots and sticks."

You mean like what Bush has been doing in, among other places, North Korea?

Freidman is an intelligent man who neglects to think when his conclusions will lead him away from his "Bush sucks" orthodoxy.

8 posted on 01/30/2005 4:45:42 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (I care as much about Sunnis not voting as I did about the white minority not voting in S.Africa)
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To: F14 Pilot
I used to like Thomas Friedman. I read his book Longitudes and Attitudes or whatever it was called. But I gave that up long ago when I realized he'd become the master of the obviously impossible. We are going to cut the price of oil? The kinds of measures he's talking about would take 20 years or more. He makes it seem like tomorrow we could just tell the Arabs, "No thanks, we're not buying your oil because we decided to go green today."
9 posted on 01/30/2005 4:47:08 PM PST by Cornpone (Aging Warrior -- Aim High -- Hit'em in the Head)
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To: oceanview

We could broadcast the "Iraqi Election" channel 24/7 into the mideast and not have to worry about invading anyone else again. I believe the ball started rolling today. :-)


10 posted on 01/30/2005 4:47:23 PM PST by Normal4me
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To: F14 Pilot
Drill ANWR For Peace!
11 posted on 01/30/2005 4:48:00 PM PST by Doctor Raoul ( ----- HERTZ: We're #1 ----- AVIS: We're #2 We Try Harder ----- CBS: We're #3 We LIE Harder)
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To: F14 Pilot
" I am a geo-green. The geo-greens believe that, going forward, if we put all our focus on reducing the price of oil - by conservation, by developing renewable and alternative energies and by expanding nuclear power - we will force more reform than by any other strategy."

Oh, MAN, gimme strength. Just when I thought he couldn't get any loopier.

I can't believe this is the same Thomas Freidman who used to write so perceptively about the Middle East. Then again that was a decade ago.

12 posted on 01/30/2005 4:48:04 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (I care as much about Sunnis not voting as I did about the white minority not voting in S.Africa)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

the Bush team isn't going to be invading anybody. We Americans don't have enough troops to finish the job in Iraq. Our military budget is completely maxed out. We couldn't invade Grenada today.

Guess again tom.

If Iran is to forgo developing nuclear weapons, it will only be because the Europeans' diplomatic approach manages to persuade Tehran to do so.

Right,like Lil Kim, that really worked didn't it.


13 posted on 01/30/2005 4:48:17 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: F14 Pilot
The geo-greens believe that, going forward, if we put all our focus on reducing the price of oil - by conservation,

California is the conservation capitol of the world. Wheres the change? Not to mention if oil drops, whats to stop OPEC from cutting back on production? No the answer is we drill in the US for our own oil, and if envioMENTALists don't like it then they are to come up with and create a viable alternative that works, otherwise STFU!

14 posted on 01/30/2005 4:48:30 PM PST by Bommer (JFK - "Pay any Cost! Bare any Burden" TFK "I'll pay what you want and bare my @ss!")
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To: F14 Pilot
They have to credibly convey to Iran that they will wield their own stick. They have to credibly convey that they will refer Iran to the Security Council for real sanctions, if it is unwilling to strike a deal involving nuclear inspections in return for normalized economic relations with the West.

No prize for spotting the logic error.

15 posted on 01/30/2005 4:49:46 PM PST by thoughtomator (How do you say Berkeley California in Aramaic?)
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To: F14 Pilot

This reminds me. It's time to put a supercharger on my SUV.


16 posted on 01/30/2005 4:50:37 PM PST by isthisnickcool (Denny Crane: "I look to two things: First to God and then to Fox News.")
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To: F14 Pilot
The problem is not the US alone, China's importation of oil has risen dramatically in the last few years. The problem is NOT ENOUGH SUPPLY, and it is compounded by banning drilling for oil in ANWAR, and offshore in California and the Gulf of Mexico. Yes, reducing consumption will help, but it will NOT be enough....
17 posted on 01/30/2005 4:50:44 PM PST by dirtbiker (Solution for Terrorism: Nuke 'em 'till they glow, then shoot 'em in the dark!)
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To: F14 Pilot
All these regimes have huge population bubbles and too few jobs. They make up the gap with oil revenues. Shrink the oil revenue and they will have to open up their economies and their schools and liberate their women so that their people can compete.

Oh yeah. Like any totalitarian regime is really worried about that. North Korea, anyone?

But you know, maybe he has a point. Lower the prices, hurt the economies, and maybe they'll revolt the sooner.

18 posted on 01/30/2005 4:51:34 PM PST by sionnsar († trad-anglican.faithweb.com † || Iran Azadi || US Foreign Service blog: diplomadic.blogspot.com)
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To: F14 Pilot

baloney.

the enviro-left and the big 3 auto makers have sat on fuel efficient cars for 30 years.

in california the enviro-left regulators move between the corporations and the state government, always making big pay increases with each move.

who you kidding?


19 posted on 01/30/2005 4:54:32 PM PST by ken21 (baba boxer + ted kennedy = nuf 2 make u wanna puke)
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To: isthisnickcool
18 bucks a barrel, thats 98.9 a gallon,guess I'll buy my wife that new 6.o liter GTO
20 posted on 01/30/2005 4:55:32 PM PST by ALLAH-ya-out-a-here
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