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New details on the New Jersey murders
http://jihadwatch.org/ ^

Posted on 01/31/2005 1:02:52 PM PST by killthedonkey

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To: r9etb; killthedonkey
'"The problem is that investigators have not taken the necessary steps to ensure a fair review of the evidence."'

That is in the article, not from killthedonkey.

41 posted on 01/31/2005 1:57:40 PM PST by TexasCowboy (Ignorance is temporary and correctible; stupidity is voluntary and permanent)
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To: nuconvert
Herb Meadows was CHIEF Negotiator, a freeper from long ago.

The best I can tell, that case is cold-cased.

42 posted on 01/31/2005 2:00:40 PM PST by TexasCowboy (Ignorance is temporary and correctible; stupidity is voluntary and permanent)
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To: No Surrender No Retreat

Sure looks like another one from the Religion of Murder.


43 posted on 01/31/2005 2:04:32 PM PST by expatpat
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To: TexasCowboy; killthedonkey

My apologies, to ktd, then. Still sounds like the author is engaged in a bit of speculation, though. For some reason it reminds me of Mr. Hackworth...


44 posted on 01/31/2005 2:14:54 PM PST by r9etb
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To: TexasCowboy

I'm sorry to hear he was a Freeper.
Best of luck to you in your struggle to help solve the crime.


45 posted on 01/31/2005 2:15:16 PM PST by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR)
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To: wtc911
You want to encourage the cover-up af the slaughter of an innocent Christian family in a distinctly muslim fashion, why?

I’ll spell it out for you: First, they tend to keep certain specifics under wraps because it helps them solve their case(s), believe it or not.

For instance, should someone come forward saying that he heard someone bragging that they had killed the family by stabbing them through the eyeballs, they’d know it’s a load of BS and they wouldn’t have to bother investigating it because they know they weren’t stabbed through the eyeballs.

Now – when you have someone leaking details, you don’t know who is giving “good” information because everything has been disclosed to the general public.

Also, should you actually have a witness that points you to a suspect (someone overheard “bragging” about it, for instance) that suspects defense team can claim your witness set them up because the details of the case were publicly disclosed. Your witness just has an axe to grind with their client and he didn’t do it – that’ll be their first claim.

In short – running around and disclosing information that they don’t want out makes their job much harder in terms of actually solving it – and may make it IMPOSSIBLE to prosecute.

46 posted on 01/31/2005 2:15:35 PM PST by Who dat?
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To: Who dat?
Everyone knows the logic you're using.
It's common sense.

From my own personal experience, though, law enforcement can use these excuses just as easily to cover up a crime for a thousand different reasons, some of them not necessarily bad.

47 posted on 01/31/2005 2:23:58 PM PST by TexasCowboy (Ignorance is temporary and correctible; stupidity is voluntary and permanent)
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To: killthedonkey

May I suggest you ask the admin moderator to add (Murdered Copts) to the end of your title.


48 posted on 01/31/2005 2:36:26 PM PST by XHogPilot
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To: Who dat?
I’ll spell it out for you: First, they tend to keep certain specifics under wraps because it helps them solve their case(s), believe it or not. For instance, should someone come forward saying that he heard someone bragging that they had killed the family by stabbing them through the eyeballs, they’d know it’s a load of BS and they wouldn’t have to bother investigating it because they know they weren’t stabbed through the eyeballs. Now – when you have someone leaking details, you don’t know who is giving “good” information because everything has been disclosed to the general public. Also, should you actually have a witness that points you to a suspect (someone overheard “bragging” about it, for instance) that suspects defense team can claim your witness set them up because the details of the case were publicly disclosed. Your witness just has an axe to grind with their client and he didn’t do it – that’ll be their first claim. In short – running around and disclosing information that they don’t want out makes their job much harder in terms of actually solving it – and may make it IMPOSSIBLE to prosecute.

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Gee, thanks for spelling it out for me. I gues I forgot everything I learned in my time on the job (NYPD) I never woulda seen it like that.

I know a cover-up when I see one and this is. There will be no arrests, no prosecution. The muslim killers are long gone and their pals who are still here will never talk.

49 posted on 01/31/2005 2:37:09 PM PST by wtc911 ("I would like at least to know his name.")
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To: killthedonkey

There is a special section of hell reserved for Muslims.


50 posted on 01/31/2005 2:37:31 PM PST by montag813
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To: MrMoor; All
"It has to be stopped and driven back to the gates."

I agree.

They're already through the gates, but most people can't see or hear them because they don't want to.

BTW: Any lilly livered, weak kneed, jelly spined, dirty, yellow coward body who doesn't want their name on a ping, just let me know.

I won't tell anybody.

(Yeah, right!)

51 posted on 01/31/2005 2:48:44 PM PST by TexasCowboy (Ignorance is temporary and correctible; stupidity is voluntary and permanent)
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To: wtc911; Who dat?
"I gues I forgot everything I learned in my time on the job (NYPD) I never woulda seen it like that.

I know a cover-up when I see one and this is. There will be no arrests, no prosecution. The muslim killers are long gone and their pals who are still here will never talk."

Cow meet cabbage.

52 posted on 01/31/2005 2:52:37 PM PST by TexasCowboy (Ignorance is temporary and correctible; stupidity is voluntary and permanent)
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To: TexasCowboy

Islamicists On The Loose In New Jersey BUMP!


53 posted on 01/31/2005 2:54:32 PM PST by Palladin (Proud to be a FReeper!)
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To: free_european

What is Occam's Razor?


54 posted on 01/31/2005 2:56:36 PM PST by farmer18th
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To: killthedonkey

Silly murderers - they should have taken the jewelry. That way the motive would be listed as robbery instead of hate, and they would get a slap on the wrist if caught.


55 posted on 01/31/2005 3:13:23 PM PST by Tabi Katz
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To: farmer18th

It is a logical principle attributed to mediaeval scholar William of Occam. It states that one should not make more assumptions than the minimum needed.


56 posted on 01/31/2005 3:14:16 PM PST by free_european
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To: dennisw; watchin; VOA; timestax; xJones; justshutupandtakeit; TopDog2; ThomasMore; Publius6961; ...
Amal Garas’s father said that (contrary to many news reports and CAIR’s press release) none of the family’s jewelry was taken, and that Amal owned some quite expensive pieces that were not touched. At the time of her murder, Amal was wearing a ring worth $3,500 that was not taken.

Islam-list

If people want on or off this list, please let me know.

57 posted on 01/31/2005 3:18:58 PM PST by knighthawk (We will always remember We will always be proud We will always be prepared so we may always be free)
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To: wtc911; nuconvert
You want to encourage the cover-up af the slaughter of an innocent Christian family in a distinctly muslim fashion, why?

Where do you get *that* idea? To me, giving all these details of the crimes basically helps the criminals. It's a bad idea & IMO shows a poor law enforcement practice. I think it's consistent with the possibility of a cover-up, because somebody somewhere is scared of the Muslim perps.

58 posted on 01/31/2005 3:23:01 PM PST by valkyrieanne (card-carrying South Park Republican)
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To: valkyrieanne
Nothing that was in this article is new. It was all in the first reports. The cover-up began when the feds got in and the story spun a 180.

I see this as a valid and needed effort to keep this muslim slaughter from becoming an episode of Cold Case Files ten years from now.

And, btw, I am former NYPD.

59 posted on 01/31/2005 3:27:26 PM PST by wtc911 ("I would like at least to know his name.")
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To: wtc911

Do you think there is a deliberate cover-up in this case, based on your police experience?


60 posted on 01/31/2005 3:28:21 PM PST by valkyrieanne (card-carrying South Park Republican)
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