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Is Yahweh punishing the enemies of Israel with natural disasters?

Posted on 02/01/2005 5:38:05 AM PST by BlackJack

I was lying in bed thinking about articles I had read concerning the recent tsunami in the Indian Ocean. I remembered reading that a village of thousands of Hindus that should have been wiped out was spared because a village elder had instructed years ago that hundreds of trees had to be planted along the coast for religious reasons. Those trees miraculously spared the village and not one Hindu was drowned. Not one. Spooky.

Then I remembered an article that there were no dead or drowned animals.Not one carcass was found apparently. Spooky.

Also no aboriginal people were drowned, not one. Spooky again.

I follow the energy sector and I am aware that Aceh has one of the world's largest natural gas exporting terminals. I was waiting to hear about how much the terminal was damaged and wondered how that might affect the world natural gas supply. The terminal exports natural gas to mainly non-muslim nations and it was not damaged. I was very surprised because Aceh took a direct hit.

All over Aceh thousands of muslims drowned. Boats were piled on top of each other miles inland. How could the terminal suffer NO DAMAGE? It just seemed weird to me.

I haven't read any analysis along these lines but it seems to me this tsunami for some strange reason drowned mostly muslims and foreign tourists in muslim communities. Weird.

Then I thought to myself, why was this tsunami, of biblical proportions (affecting the rotation of the earth)-why was it affecting mostly muslim peoples?

Indonesia is home to radical muslim groups against Israel, US and Australia.Could it be a punishment from Yahweh? Nah, its just a coincidence. Has to be.

Then I said to myself, has there been any other natural disasters sent against those opposed to Israel?

Then I recalled the recent Bam earthquake. It killed 50,000 muslims. It flattened Bam Iran. Weird.

Iran supports hezbullah. hmmmm

Then I remembered not to long ago a plague of locusts hit muslim countries in North Africa. Israel was not damaged as I recall. Weird again.

I don't believe in biblical prophesy. I don't believe in miracles. I am not jewish or Israeli. But I do follow history and let the facts take me where they will.

So I thought to myself again. Yahweh says that he will gather the jewish people and rebuilt his nation and the temple, for this must be done before the messiah can come. So is there anything since Israel was born again in 1948 that would lead one to believe that there is anything to this??? hmmm

Lets see. After WWII the Soviet Union was an ally of Israel and communism was on a roll. Then in the 1960's the Soviets stab Israel in the back and switch sides for geopolitical reasons. A billion muslims, hundreds of millions of arabs and all that oil. The Soviets build the Aswan dam for Egypt and give Sadat billions in military equipment. Sadat attacks Israel with thousands of Soviet advisors and gets crushed. Sadat gets assassinated. The Soviet Union goes into decline and soon disappears from history.

Sadam in Iraq then gets into the act. He has thousands of Soviet advisors in country when he invades Iran and later Kuwait. During the Gulf War he fires scuds at Israel and gets crushed. His people suffer terribly. George Bush senior helps Israel with Patriot missiles, wins the war and shoots up to an incredible 92% approval rating. Highest approval rating on record. He is on such a political roll the top Democrats won't run against him.

Then Bush senior puts pressure on Israel and Shamir to give up the west bank.This is part of ancient Israel and Yahweh is not happy apparently. The economy goes into a tailspin and a few months later, amazingly, Bush loses the election!

Then Rabin, who agreed to give up west bank land, gets assassinated. The Palestinians who are constantly fighting Israel suffer terribly during this entire post war period and Arafat, after never ending defeats, dies of a mysterious ailment.

If you look at the last 50 years, every political leader, every nation that has gone against Israel has been crushed. The arabs have not only lost every war, they have suffered terribly. Shia killing Sunni and vice versa from Iraq to Pakistan. And Israel is such a tiny country you can see the Mediterranean from the Golan. And it has no natural resources. It is surrounded by hundreds of millions of arabs and yet it prospers. Amazing.

Clinton was a supporter of Israel and even though he goes from one scandal to another for eight years, he comes through unscathed. Bush junior who unlike his father, does not pressure Israel to give up the west bank, also wins two terms even though the world media calls him an idiot, and the deficit is out of site. Bush junior has a huge budget deficit, trade deficit and yet the dollar does not collapse and the economy seems to be doing well. He wins reelection even though there are NO weapons of mass destruction found.

Again, its amazing really.

I could go on but I better bring this to a conclusion. Think of all the nations that have gone against Israel and been defeated. Any gentile or jew who does not support Israel goes down. Think of the raid on Entebbe or the destruction of the Osiris reactor. Think of the long odds against Israeli survival and yet Israel prospers. Some might say, well its just the powerful Israeli lobby working its magic behind the scenes.

But what about earthquakes and tsunamis?

I think its a bit spooky myself. Like I said I'm not a believer in the ancient books and prophesies but it seems like there might be something to this after all.

What the heck is going on???

I'm beginning to think the Temple will be rebuilt.

I certainly would not go against Israel, thats for sure.

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To: quadrant
England is still around, so is France, and so are Japan and China.

So is Spain.

IAE, France has long been charged with anti-Semitism, and England expelled its Jews shortly before the rise of its empire. So what does that prove?

41 posted on 02/02/2005 12:03:30 AM PST by Commie Basher
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To: Commie Basher
So is Germany and Egypt, but neither has nor is likely to ascend to the power its once enjoyed.

The Jews were expelled from England during the Middle Ages but were readmitted during the "reign" of Oliver Cromwell.
Technically speaking, England was not an Empire until Queen Victoria became Empress of India and ceased to be an empire when India became an independent country.

There is a long and shameful history of anti-Semitism in France - during the 1930's "Better Adolph Hitler than Leon Blum" was a public sentiment - however anti-semitism was not widespread or virulent in France until the Dreyfus Affair.

None of these examples "prove" anything, since historical proof is a difficult and often illusionary undertaking.
My remarks were simply an observation that widespread and severe persecution of the Jews and a decline of national power are events that can be observed in ancient Egypt, Tsarist Russia, Imperial Spain, and Nazi Germany. .
My remarks were not intended to "prove" that anti-semitism caused the decline of these countries since anti-semitism, especially social anti-semitism, is not necessarily persecution.
42 posted on 02/02/2005 7:13:41 AM PST by quadrant
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43 posted on 05/18/2005 5:13:02 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FR profiled updated Tuesday, May 10, 2005. Fewer graphics, faster loading.)
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