Gay Marriage Ban Fails in Idaho

Fox News ^ | 2/2/05 | staff

[pissant]

BOISE, Idaho — A proposal to ban same-sex marriages has been defeated for the second consecutive year in Idaho (search).

The measure was defeated 14-21 in the state Senate on Wednesday after conservative supporters couldn't muster the two-thirds majority needed to send the constitutional change to a vote of the people. Eight Republican senators joined with six Democrats to form a blockade of moderates.

The amendment would have invalidated any type of marriage or civil union (search) except those between one man and one woman.

The issue has been at the forefront of legislative issues since the session began Jan. 10, dividing friends, colleagues and even the Republican Party leadership.

Proponents have argued they are trying to protect traditional marriage from liberal, activist judges who want to expand the definition of marriage.

Opponents say the state should not discriminate against an entire class of people based on their sexual preference, and they also argue that the legislation is unnecessary and mean-spirited because gay marriage is already prohibited by law.

[pissant]

Wow. Why would this fail in one of the top 5 most conservative states in the Union? I hope you spud-heads replace the politicians who voted no in the next election!

[lilylangtree]

Sad. WA state is next. God help us all.

[BibChr]

Wha-a-at?? Idaho?!!

That's where I've wanted to move!

Unngh!

/c8<

Dan

[taxesareforever]

Liberal strains are deeper than what we had hoped.

[rockrr]

First Washington (state), then Idaho and Montana.

I believe what you're seeing is the "liberal flight" effect - the lefties leaving Kalifornica and infesting other areas.

The "Homies" need to stop these parasites in their tracks, lest you find yourself in the same straits as Washington...

[snarkytart]

The gay lobby has tons of money thats why.
It is so sad that the politicians really only represent the interests of a very few.

The majority's opinion is irrelevant to them. They figure we are too busy living our lives and working to care about what they are doing.

Squeaky wheel gets the oil thing!

[BullDog108]

Sad. Sad. Sad. Kansas ahead of Idaho.....

[So Cal Rocket]

Eight Republican senators joined with six Democrats to form a blockade of moderates.

Does Utah have a Recall provision in their State Constitution? Looks like there's at least 8 targets right here.

[old and tired]

I know nothing about this, but off the top of my head I'd guess it's about polygamy. Aren't there a good number of renegade old school Mormon people there in Idaho?

[The Ghost of FReepers Past]

Opponents say the state should not discriminate against an entire class of people based on their sexual preference, and they also argue that the legislation is unnecessary and mean-spirited because gay marriage is already prohibited by law.

Opponents can argue that it is discrimination OR that it is unnecessary because of current law. They can't legitimately argue both unless they also seek to repeal the law. If the amendment is discriminatory then so is the law. But they will never spend the politcal capital to repeal the law; they want the courts to do it for them. That's the REAL reason they don't want the amendment.

[Mark in the Old South]

Idaho? Hummmm? Isn't that where Jackson Hole is located.

No wait that's WY. Never mind

[snarkytart]

Yeah, the liberals vote for policies that destroy the schools, economy and the culture of their community. Then when it gets too bad to live where they live, they move and start to infest and destroy another place.
Like cock roaches or something.

[ladtx]

The "Homies" need to stop these parasites in their tracks, lest you find yourself in the same straits as Washington...

Sounds like it's too late, they're already infested.

[atomicpossum]

Notice it failed amongst politicians, not in a vote of the people.

[anniegetyourgun]

Troll.

[rockrr]

Yep.
And you can spit into the wind (although I wouldn't recommend it ;'}

[sittnick]

The previous poster rightly labeled you a troll. If you are "somewhat conservative", why would this be the first thing you post? (You registered today) Why can you not bring up a conservative or at least libertarian argument to back it up?

In what ways are you a conservative? And why should we believe you if you think that changing the basic meanings of words is good for America or anyplace else?

[anniegetyourgun]

Yes, I can imagine you are "interested in this place." What was the last screenname you had?

[TheBigB]

Now if only we can legalize gay marriage in the entire US, the world will be a much better place.

What say you, VKs? I smell something here....

[Veto!]

Doesn't Idaho already have marriage laws that describe marriage correctly? Probably they are not voting against gay marriage ban because they think they already have it covered, and besides, they don't want to face any more bigotry charges from the media.

Can some Idahoan please explain?

[cruiserman]

Idaho has a relatively large contingent of libertarians.

[rockrr]

Could be, but not necessarily.

Note atomicpossum's post - this is namby-pamby legislators we're talking about. Most of them (regardless of political stripe) practice CYA above all else. They think that they can't do the people's business" if they can't keep their jobs.

This is a cowardly fallacy. It begs the question: If you don't want to represent me NOW, why would I want to vote for you NEXT TIME?

It's not too late!

[rockrr]

"Why are you being mean to me?"

"I'm telling mom!"

[anniegetyourgun]

Because too many frustrated lib/dem losers have been trashing up the place lately.....

[beandog]

Tell us why you think making gay marriage legal would make the world a better place?

[anniegetyourgun]

If?

[TChris]

Deliciously satisfying: See the actual video of this fairy getting his/her ZOT, with sound:

(Click image below to view)

[TChris]

I respect the opinions of others, and I would be delighted if they could do the same.

Translation: "I have no moral standards whatsoever. I wish everyone would be more like me."

Gay marriage is a complete ruse. Most gays/lesbians aren't even interested in it. The real goal is to dilute the meaning of "marriage." The homosexual lobby is intent on destroying the family, nothing more and nothing less.

Intolerance for barely-disguised war against the crucial institution of the family is no vice.

[Truthsayer20]

Conservatism in the North-West has a more libertarian orientation than, for example, in the South. This vote is not a big suprise to me.

[rockrr]

Enjoy your stay here.

I have a feeeeeeeling that it will be a short one....

[xcamel]

That would be the "69TH" amendment in your book, right?

/troll

[SweetCaroline]

Now if only we can legalize gay marriage in the entire US, the world will be a much better place.....only for you and your partners!!! TROLL

[beandog]

First of all, gays are not being told they can't get married, they just can't marry somebody of the same sex. Therefore, they are not being discrimated against anymore than somebody who wants to marry two wives or two husbands is being discriminated against. Do you think that also should be legal?

[pissant]

Well I live in the NW, and the conservatives here are every bit as conservative as elsewhere. The only problem in Wash. State is we ain't in power. IN Idaho, there is no excuse.

[judgeandjury]

Because that's the way it should be. Why wouldn't it make the world a better place? People would be happier, marriage would still be as important as it is today, and gay discrimination wouldn't be as much of an issue.

I'm no good at debating, okay? :p I have my reasons, and unless you or someone else here can convince me why gay marriage is NOT okay, I will still feel the same way I do.

Then what's your opinion on polygamous marriages? Wouldn't it make the world a better place? People would be happier, marriage would still be as important as it is today, and discrimination against polygamists wouldn't be as much of an issue. Do you agree?

[anniegetyourgun]

Thankfully, the mods have carried away that weenie who thinks that being intolerant of vice is a vice!

[xcamel]

Spot on buddy...

Break the Church

Break the Marriage

Break the Family

Break the Democracy

GLBTSMFC agenda. in a nutshell

(Gay Lesbo Bi Tranny Socialist Marxist Facist Communist)

[KillBill]

I have to agree with the moderates here. Unless there's a reason they can't make it illegal without an amendment, they shouldn't go for an amendment. This is just pandering here.

[cardinal4]

Isnt 14 out of 21 two thirds?

[Truthsayer20]

"Well I live in the NW, and the conservatives here are every bit as conservative as elsewhere."

How come the vote failed then? Idaho is a more of a red state than many Southern states.

[B Knotts]

This is odd. We passed a constitutional amendment defining marriage as the union of one man and one woman here in Oregon by a good margin.

Now the pro-"homosexual-marriage" activists are trying to argue that we don't have the right to amend the state constitution on certain subjects.