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NEW NICOLE BUST
The New York Post ^ | February 3, 2005 | JEREMY OLSHAN, MURRAY WEISS and TODD VENEZIA

Posted on 02/03/2005 2:53:33 PM PST by ConservativeStatement

February 3, 2005 -- A high-school cheerleader was charged with murder yesterday for participating in the Lower East Side street attack that killed aspiring actress Nicole duFresne last week, cops said. (Linda) DuFresne, who spoke from her home in Minnesota, said she hopes her daughter's death will convince people to think more seriously about enacting stronger gun-control laws.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: actress; bang; banglist; crime; dufresne; murder; nicole; teens
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It is horrible what happened to Nicole Dufresne but all comments I have read and heard from her friends and now mother blame everyone but the shooter.
1 posted on 02/03/2005 2:53:33 PM PST by ConservativeStatement
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

I wouldn't be surprised if HCI has been talking to
her.

"Oh we feel your grief, something must be done about the
scurge of guns on the street."


2 posted on 02/03/2005 2:56:37 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

Maybe we need stronger child control laws.


3 posted on 02/03/2005 2:56:48 PM PST by Lorianne
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To: jdege

bump


4 posted on 02/03/2005 2:57:02 PM PST by brbethke
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

The article title made me think that LA was erecting a memorial to one of OJ's [alleged] victims.


5 posted on 02/03/2005 2:57:41 PM PST by randog (What the....?!)
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To: Lorianne

If you outlaw children, then only outlaws will have children.


6 posted on 02/03/2005 2:57:54 PM PST by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

I agree if the actress had a gun and had good control of said gun she'd still be alive...oh they mean the other gun control...silly me...


7 posted on 02/03/2005 2:58:21 PM PST by MD_Willington_1976
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

Now this explains the daughter's affilition with nutty groups.

Lady, a criminal low-life dirtbag killed youre daughter. Please, don't demand my fiance, friends and family members be made into victims like your daughter.


8 posted on 02/03/2005 2:59:32 PM PST by Bogey78O (Hillary Clinton + Fertility pills + Scott Peterson + rowboat = Success)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan
(Linda) DuFresne, who spoke from her home in Minnesota, said she hopes her daughter's death will convince people to think more seriously about enacting stronger gun-control laws.

Yeah, NY is known for its lax gun laws, huh.

9 posted on 02/03/2005 2:59:57 PM PST by martin_fierro (_____oooo_( )_oooo_____)
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To: Lorianne

or I hate to say it "race" laws......


10 posted on 02/03/2005 3:00:05 PM PST by NorCalRepub
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan
News of the latest bust of a teen schoolgirl shocked duFresne's mother, Linda.

"Oh. my God, they are so young, they are so young," she said, her voice cracking with emotion. "My heart goes out to the parents of these young children."

...Evans' mother, Lydia...who said her daughter was a cheerleader at August Martin HS, said "...They may have just made a mistake or two."

(words fail me)

11 posted on 02/03/2005 3:00:56 PM PST by brbethke
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

...DuFresne, who spoke from her home in Minnesota, said she hopes her daughter's death will convince people to think more seriously about enacting stronger gun-control laws...

I would hope it would convince more people to arm themselves against thugs.


12 posted on 02/03/2005 3:01:13 PM PST by planekT
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

There are just sooooo many things wrong with this. More gun control is NOT one of them


13 posted on 02/03/2005 3:01:16 PM PST by Jaded (Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society. - Mark Twain)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

Rats. Figured there'd be a picture of Anna Nicole's bust here somewhere...


14 posted on 02/03/2005 3:01:44 PM PST by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: MD_Willington_1976
I agree if the actress had a gun and had good control of said gun she'd still be alive...oh they mean the other gun control...silly me...

I never allow myself to think that a gun would save anyone. I carry a gun, daily, and it increases my chances of surviving such an altercation. It never guarantees that I'll survive. Same with this girl. She may have survived, but we'll never know.l

15 posted on 02/03/2005 3:02:26 PM PST by Melas
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan
I was going to point out that New York City already has some of the strictest gun control laws in the United States. Instead, I think I'll just observe that the mother has less common sense than her daughter when it comes to guns and the criminals that use them.
16 posted on 02/03/2005 3:02:59 PM PST by Question_Assumptions
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan
death will convince people to think more seriously about enacting stronger gun-control laws.

How do they get any stronger than NYC's?????

17 posted on 02/03/2005 3:03:09 PM PST by Dan from Michigan (Republican Party Reptile)
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To: NorCalRepub

explain


18 posted on 02/03/2005 3:03:10 PM PST by Melas
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

She'd rather her daughter had been murdered some other way? Being stabbed, for example? Would her daughter have been less dead if she'd been stabbed?


19 posted on 02/03/2005 3:03:15 PM PST by cake_crumb (Leftist Credo: "One Wing to Rule Them all and to the Dark Side Bind Them")
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To: Dan from Michigan

BTW - If I ever get offed, and some gun grabbers try and capitalize on that, my ghost is going to haunt them for a long long time.....


20 posted on 02/03/2005 3:04:53 PM PST by Dan from Michigan (Republican Party Reptile)
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To: martin_fierro
Yeah, NY is known for its lax gun laws, huh.

No kidding. If there is an example state for WHY GUN CONTROL LAWS DON'T WORK it is New York. What would have worked in this instance, would have been (intended) victims WITH GUNS.
Instead of saying, "What are you going to do, shoot us?" It could have been a defensive position with a 9mm semi drawn and aimed. But liberals, including DuFresne's mother, continue to blame guns instead of the wimp perp criminal as in this case.

21 posted on 02/03/2005 3:05:45 PM PST by vox_freedom (Fear no evil)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

>>>>>(Linda) DuFresne, who spoke from her home in Minnesota, said she hopes her daughter's death will convince people to think more seriously about enacting stronger gun-control laws.

Wrong on too many levels.

(1) Was the gun in NY legally owned? Somehow I doubt it. If the gun was already illegal, would another law have saved the actress? Obviously not.

(2) Was the gun legally carried? No. If the gun was already illegally carried, would another law have saved the actress? Obviously not.

(3) Her daughter is dead becuase she didn't have any common sense about weapons and thugs, and I now see where she got it. I'm sure the mom does not want to accept any blame for this, but with this attitude its hardly a surprise. Mom wants to blame a lack of laws - in a place where we have the most restrictive laws - for what was in reality a collossal mistake by her daughter, and an act of depravity by a thug. No collection of laws can take away the need for personal responsibility and good judgment.

Sad.

patent


22 posted on 02/03/2005 3:05:54 PM PST by patent (A baby is God's opinion that life should go on. Carl Sandburg)
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To: Melas

Race Rules:

http://www.ingnycmarathon.org/entrantinfo/championchip.html


23 posted on 02/03/2005 3:06:10 PM PST by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: cake_crumb

This is too stupid for words. The girl would have been killed no matter what the thugs had been using - they got mad, wanted to look big, and killed her, and they would have done so had they had to use their fists.

Mother is not listening. This has to do with the morality of the killers, not with their weapon.


24 posted on 02/03/2005 3:07:07 PM PST by livius
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To: Melas

I was just being facetious but on second glance it didn't come out the way it should have.......it was related to the person who said stronger child laws and I thought it was kind of inane so I was relating that would be just as dumb as if we had race laws as well.....didn't come out the way I meant it.......sorry.....


25 posted on 02/03/2005 3:07:19 PM PST by NorCalRepub
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To: GOP_Party_Animal
So did I so here you go.


26 posted on 02/03/2005 3:07:22 PM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature (If Islam is a religion of peace, they should fire their P.R. guy!)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

Liberalism IS mental illness.


27 posted on 02/03/2005 3:08:32 PM PST by henkster
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan
…will convince people to think more seriously about enacting stronger gun-control laws.

I thought this happened in New York City, a city with extremely strictest gun control laws
28 posted on 02/03/2005 3:10:45 PM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

If her daughter was packing, she might not be dead.


29 posted on 02/03/2005 3:10:54 PM PST by anton
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

From the title, I thought this was going to be a story about Nicole Kidman getting breast implants.


30 posted on 02/03/2005 3:12:38 PM PST by Do Be (The heart is smarter than the head.)
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To: Dan from Michigan
How do they get any stronger than NYC's?????

Washington, DC?
31 posted on 02/03/2005 3:13:58 PM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: K4Harty

Ah! Thanks, man. I needed an Anna Nicole Smith pic to set me right.


32 posted on 02/03/2005 3:14:05 PM PST by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: livius

*Sigh* When will they ever learn?


33 posted on 02/03/2005 3:14:44 PM PST by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: GOP_Party_Animal

Glad to be of service. :o)


34 posted on 02/03/2005 3:15:57 PM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature (If Islam is a religion of peace, they should fire their P.R. guy!)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

The title made me think Governor Bush's daughter was in trouble again.


35 posted on 02/03/2005 3:16:28 PM PST by HoustonCurmudgeon (Redneck from a red city, in a red county, in a red state.)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan
Linda duFresne said her daughter would not want the killers to face the death penalty, but that she would want them to spend life in jail, especially Fleming.

Another sign this "mother" is an idiot.

36 posted on 02/03/2005 3:18:52 PM PST by LowOiL ("I am neither . I am a Christocrat" -Benjamin Rush)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

There was another murder in the same neighborhood this week. This one involved an elderly man using an unusual blade hidden in his cane. The NY Post headlines it "GEEZER 'STABS' VAGRANT WITH CANE BLADE"

http://www.nypost.com/news/regionalnews/39294.htm

Don't know what's going on here lately. It's usually a peaceful neighborhood.

R.I.P Nicole


37 posted on 02/03/2005 3:19:13 PM PST by orangelobster
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To: Do Be

LOL. We have a Nicole Ritchie, Anna Nicole and now Nicole Kidman reference.


38 posted on 02/03/2005 3:20:49 PM PST by ConservativeStatement
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To: K4Harty
we can do better than that and stay within the rules, can't we?


39 posted on 02/03/2005 3:22:19 PM PST by smonk
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To: vox_freedom
"Instead of saying, "What are you going to do, shoot us?" It could have been a defensive position..."

Not to mention the fact that with legal concealed carry, the murderer may have never attempted to mug with impunity in the first place!!

40 posted on 02/03/2005 3:22:27 PM PST by Joe 6-pack
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To: smonk

i had to go low profile with the google search and didn't want to get on the "wrong" site from a work computer and I prefer not to view more risque pictures even to help a Freeper out. ;o)


41 posted on 02/03/2005 3:24:59 PM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature (If Islam is a religion of peace, they should fire their P.R. guy!)
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To: K4Harty
well, you DO have to be careful of what you post when the subject is anna nicole . . . most of it is, well, going to get you the wrong kind of attention.

:)

42 posted on 02/03/2005 3:27:03 PM PST by smonk
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan
If New York had any stricter gun control laws, it would truly be a Communist Republic. Wait, it already is...

What REALLY pisses me off about my own home state are the suburban RINOs who always say "only the police should have guns."

43 posted on 02/03/2005 3:27:35 PM PST by Clemenza (I Am Here to Chew Bubblegum and Kick Ass, and I'm ALL OUT OF BUBBLEGUM!)
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To: Jaded
There are just sooooo many things wrong with this. More gun control is NOT one of them


Gun Control isn't about GUNS

no nonsense support of the right to keep and bear arms

It's about CONTROL

44 posted on 02/03/2005 3:27:56 PM PST by glock rocks ( Miss Kitty, the sun hasn't come up on the day that Marshal Dillon can't take care of himself.)
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To: smonk

true, so true....(sigh)...


45 posted on 02/03/2005 3:29:14 PM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature (If Islam is a religion of peace, they should fire their P.R. guy!)
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To: Joe 6-pack
Not to mention the fact that with legal concealed carry, the murderer may have never attempted...

Yep. If only liberals would look at what is now happening to all defenseless victims in Great Britain. No guns, owned by law abiding citizens, means perps can rob, kill, and rape without fear of immediate retribution. Gun crimes went up, not down and victims are everywhere, including in their own homes without any protection -- except to call a bobby who shows up with a whistle.

46 posted on 02/03/2005 3:29:39 PM PST by vox_freedom (Fear no evil)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan
"... DuFresne ... said she hopes her daughter's death will convince people to think more seriously about enacting stronger gun-control laws..."

It's long past time for laws to be enacted to remove weapons from the hands of criminals. </sarcasm>

47 posted on 02/03/2005 3:33:59 PM PST by MrBambaLaMamba (Buy 'Allah' brand urinal cakes - If you can't kill the enemy at least you can piss on their god)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan
DuFresne, who spoke from her home in Minnesota, said she hopes her daughter's death will convince people to think more seriously about enacting stronger gun-control laws.

With all due respect to this grieving mother, she is a flaming @sshole. If New York City's gun-control laws couldn't stop this murder, then nothing will.

If only the quasi-humanoid mutants had attacked her daughter with a cigarette . . . they'd be lucky to survive their ordeal in the NYC criminal justice system.

48 posted on 02/03/2005 3:35:04 PM PST by Alberta's Child (I'm not expecting to grow flowers in the desert.)
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To: Lorianne
Maybe we need stronger child control laws.

It takes a village, don't you know?

49 posted on 02/03/2005 3:40:24 PM PST by SmithL (Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?)
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To: randog
The article title made me think that LA was erecting a memorial to one of OJ's [alleged] victims.

Funny, I thought Ms. Kidman had some plastic surgery.
50 posted on 02/03/2005 3:42:44 PM PST by mnehring (cBS- Fourth Column, Fifth Estate, Disinformers)
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