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California defense contractor warns employees following computer theft
Security Focus and Associated Press ^ | February 3, 2005

Posted on 02/04/2005 3:14:49 AM PST by bd476

California defense contractor warns employees following computer theft


The Associated Press Feb 3 2005 3:16PM

"Thieves stole several computers containing personal information on 45,000 current and former shareholders of defense contractor Science Applications International Corp., which began alerting those people on Thursday.

SAIC is one of the nation's largest employee-owned companies.

The computers stolen from an SAIC administrative building in San Diego contained the name, Social Security number, address and telephone number of current and former shareholders, including the number of shares bought, held and sold.

The company said it had no evidence that the thieves accessed the information or that the purpose of the crime was identity theft, but began notifying current and former shareholders as a precaution.

"We're extremely concerned. This is a very serious matter. We're taking every precaution we know how," SAIC spokesman Ben Haddad said Thursday.

Thieves smashed three ground-floor windows and pried open the doors to 13 offices early on Jan. 25, San Diego police Detective Gary Hassen said.

No government or commercial work was performed at the building where the break-in occurred. SAIC, which has annual revenue of about $7 billion, is involved in some of the U.S. government's most sensitive work, from redesigning Army combat systems to bioweapons defense and improving electronic snooping for the National Security Agency.

Employees of the San Diego-based company can buy and sell shares among themselves once every three months at a price fixed by an outside auditor, based on SAIC's operating income and competitors' stock prices.

The computers contained the information of tens of thousands of people who bought or sold SAIC shares in the past several years, Haddad said.

SAIC is reassessing its security procedures."



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"No government or commercial work was performed at the building where the break-in occurred. SAIC, which has annual revenue of about $7 billion, is involved in some of the U.S. government's most sensitive work, from redesigning Army combat systems to bioweapons defense and improving electronic snooping for the National Security Agency."

Oh, I'm going to sleep better tonight after reading that paragraph...

1 posted on 02/04/2005 3:14:50 AM PST by bd476
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To: bd476

And knowing quite a few SAIC guys, I haven't sleep well for a long time. . .

;-)


2 posted on 02/04/2005 3:22:24 AM PST by Gunrunner2
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To: bd476

I wonder if this is the same city where they said the cops weren't going to answer alarms anymore because of false alarms?


3 posted on 02/04/2005 3:24:20 AM PST by 1FASTGLOCK45
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To: bd476
Why are companies keeping sensitive data on PC's? (I figure they are PC's because thieves stole several computers...
4 posted on 02/04/2005 3:24:51 AM PST by X_CDN_EH (regards wb)
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SAIC is in the defense industry with main headquarters in San Diego. It's well known to applicants for the stringent security, employee background checks and security clearances because of its international reputation for "research."

The company is very active right now, and it's hard to believe that the burglars accidentally broke into an office holding just employee information.

What in the world prevented SAIC from having better security?

NSA info alone could have been motivation for the break-in.

5 posted on 02/04/2005 3:25:15 AM PST by bd476 (God Bless those in harm's way and bring peace to those who have lost loved ones today.)
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To: 1FASTGLOCK45; BurbankKarl
1FASTGLOCK45 said: "I wonder if this is the same city where they said the cops weren't going to answer alarms anymore because of false alarms?"

I believe that is Los Angeles.

If SAIC's security alarm went off, it would have been a very unhappy San Diego Police dispatcher who didn't push some red buttons.

6 posted on 02/04/2005 3:27:37 AM PST by bd476 (God Bless those in harm's way and bring peace to those who have lost loved ones today.)
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To: bd476

Sounds like security needs to be redone at that building, bet that alarm guard no longer has a job. To be able to smash 3 windows and break into 13 offices, makes quite a alot of noise...


7 posted on 02/04/2005 3:31:41 AM PST by 1FASTGLOCK45
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To: Gunrunner2

Argh, Gunrunner2. :)


8 posted on 02/04/2005 3:31:51 AM PST by bd476 (God Bless those in harm's way and bring peace to those who have lost loved ones today.)
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To: X_CDN_EH
>>"Why are companies keeping sensitive data on PC's?"
That's a real good question. Whoever set up the system doesn't appreciate security. There are a few very simple fundamental things that can be done to stop most of this kind of theft.
9 posted on 02/04/2005 3:36:00 AM PST by ProudVet77 (Survivor of the great blizzard of aught five)
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To: 1FASTGLOCK45
1FASTGLOCK45 said: "Sounds like security needs to be redone at that building, bet that alarm guard no longer has a job. To be able to smash 3 windows and break into 13 offices, makes quite a alot of noise..."

It should not have happened in the first place. That place was like Fort Knox in daylight hours at least in past years.

There is not just one security guard, it would be a system of security to get through first. Breaking windows and getting into SAIC would be about as easy as doing the same in any defense industry building in D.C.

10 posted on 02/04/2005 3:37:45 AM PST by bd476 (God Bless those in harm's way and bring peace to those who have lost loved ones today.)
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To: bd476
My web hosting company has better security.

Web-hosting company Advanced Internet Technologies (AIT) is big on security. Not necessarily the firewall, virtual private network, virus detection type of thing. More like the barbed wire, munitions closet, and paratrooper type of security. The Fayetteville, N.C.-based company has razor wire fences, painted black windows in some areas, and even a munitions closet with 12-gauge shotguns and 9-millimeter Beretta pistols. Its data centers are protected by 8-inch reinforced concrete and 24-hour guards.

Source

11 posted on 02/04/2005 3:42:56 AM PST by Flyer (We are the pajamahadin ~ We know everything. ~ No forgeries no fakes no urban legends and no BS)
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Flyer, I thought you were kidding until I read the article. Thanks for the link.

At least, some time ago, SAIC would have been a role model for that company.

It's a puzzle how the people got in. It's beyond comprehension that they got out with company computers.

12 posted on 02/04/2005 3:50:12 AM PST by bd476 (God Bless those in harm's way and bring peace to those who have lost loved ones today.)
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To: Flyer; Gunrunner2; 1FASTGLOCK45; X_CDN_EH; ProudVet77; MeekOneGOP; BurbankKarl; Bob J
It turns out that SAIC won a bid to design software for tracking terrorists and managing case files for the FBI. The FBI paid $100 million dollars for the software.

SAIC turned the software over to the FBI some time ago and the FBI found many glitches.

Back and forth negotiations have led to another company advising the FBI to bail out on using the SAIC designed software. $100 million dollars down the tube and now the discovery that SAIC has major security problems.

SAIC says FBI should deploy its software

13 posted on 02/04/2005 4:33:06 AM PST by bd476 (God Bless those in harm's way and bring peace to those who have lost loved ones today.)
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To: bd476

Just doesn't pass the smell test.


14 posted on 02/04/2005 4:55:48 AM PST by OldFriend (America's glory is not dominion, but liberty.)
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To: bd476

And they don't have ALARMS?!?!?!?!?!?


15 posted on 02/04/2005 5:03:02 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: OXENinFLA; OldFriend
They had security which could make the most uptight super spy uncomfortable. Not sure what happened but it's the stuff spy movies are made of.

Just seems weird that SAIC alleges burglars only stole computers which contained employee information.

If someone was smart enough to outwit SAIC's security system, they would know who SAIC works for (defense industry) and would also understand the value of anything they could get their grubby hands on.

Smash and grab burglaries don't work in the defense industry or at least they shouldn't.

16 posted on 02/04/2005 5:07:30 AM PST by bd476 (God Bless those in harm's way and bring peace to those who have lost loved ones today.)
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To: bd476

You make excellent sense.


17 posted on 02/04/2005 5:37:36 AM PST by Gunrunner2
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To: Gunrunner2

Thanks for the kind words. :)


18 posted on 02/04/2005 5:51:48 AM PST by bd476 (God Bless those in harm's way and bring peace to those who have lost loved ones today.)
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To: bd476

I’m an ex-employee. I was told that one of the computers had Electronic Fund Transfer data on it. Having this kind of info on a desktop computer is stupid.

I don’t think they have disclosed all of the details of this.


19 posted on 02/04/2005 5:52:01 AM PST by CJinVA
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To: vigl

Thanks, Vigl. I agree. Something seems odd - the timing is bizarre. Either SAIC is very unlucky or something's rotten in San Diego.


20 posted on 02/04/2005 5:54:12 AM PST by bd476 (God Bless those in harm's way and bring peace to those who have lost loved ones today.)
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