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Hate Speech, Unless You're A Liberal (Churchill threatens to sue Univ. if fired)
The Neal Boortz Show/"Nealz Nuze" ^ | 2.4.05 | Neal Boortz

Posted on 02/04/2005 8:02:31 AM PST by mhking

HATE SPEECH, UNLESS YOU'RE A LIBERAL

By now you might have heard the saga of Ward Churchill. This is the leftist America-hater that compared the victims of the 9/11 slaughter to Adolf Eichmann, the Nazi Holocaust murderer. In case you need a refresher, here's exactly what he said: "The most that can honestly be said of those involved on Sept. 11 is that they finally responded in kind to some of what this country has dispensed to their people as a matter of course. As for those in the World Trade Center, well, really, let's get a grip here, shall we? True enough, they were civilians of a sort. But innocent? Gimme a break."

He also went on to call the Islamic terrorists that attacked the World Trade Center, "combat teams," the victims "little Eichmanns" and "military targets." Obviously this terrorist-appeasing, left-wing sociopath does not belong on the faculty at a university supposedly teaching America's children.


Yet the liberals are playing the "academic freedom" card. He promises to sue the University if he's fired, and it looks like that might just happen. He has freedom of speech just like anyone else....he just doesn't have the freedom to make anyone listen. If you pulled this kind of stunt at a private company, you'd be out the door in a second. If you were a Republican, liberals would want to put you in jail for "hate speech."

Then again, it might be useful to keep him right where he is. It serves as a reminder just how these leftists actually think.


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1 posted on 02/04/2005 8:02:32 AM PST by mhking
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To: Howlin; Ed_NYC; MonroeDNA; widgysoft; Springman; Timesink; dubyaismypresident; Grani; coug97; ...

Just damn.

If you want on the list, FReepmail me. This IS a high-volume PING list...

2 posted on 02/04/2005 8:02:48 AM PST by mhking (Do not mess with dragons, for thou art crunchy & good with ketchup...)
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To: mhking

The university should fire him on the grounds that they thought they were hiring a Native American. He's taking a job that should be filled by genuine angry Indian.


3 posted on 02/04/2005 8:07:45 AM PST by Welsh Rabbit
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To: mhking
Then again, it might be useful to keep him right where he is.

Useful to who? He's in a position to influence a lot of young people, and apparently is doing that very well.
4 posted on 02/04/2005 8:07:50 AM PST by TexasTaysor
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To: mhking

"Paging John Edwards. Stat."


5 posted on 02/04/2005 8:09:48 AM PST by MikeHu
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To: mhking

They also should fire him because he is a liar. He says he`s a full blooded Cherokee and he is not. Native Americans say he is not. He is a fraud and embarrasses Native Americans solely for his own pompous gain.


6 posted on 02/04/2005 8:11:45 AM PST by Imaverygooddriver (I`m a very good driver and I approve this message.)
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To: mhking

Women's brain are different than men's = hate speech
9/11 victims were nazis = free speech


7 posted on 02/04/2005 8:22:13 AM PST by phugg
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To: mhking
He has freedom of speech just like anyone else....he just doesn't have the freedom to make anyone listen.

It's not for lack of trying. In addition to his diatribes coming at taxpayers expense, he's been part of a group that has interfered with the annual Columbus Day parade in Denver.

8 posted on 02/04/2005 8:22:26 AM PST by Dave Olson
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To: TexasTaysor
Useful to who? He's in a position to influence a lot of young people, and apparently is doing that very well.

Boortz clarified that this on his show -- It might be useful in the notion of being able to point out what kinds of idiots we have in the universities and colleges of the nation; after all, Churchill is not the only academic that feels this way - he's just the only one that we've been able to publicly identify...

9 posted on 02/04/2005 8:24:19 AM PST by mhking (Do not mess with dragons, for thou art crunchy & good with ketchup...)
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To: mhking
Hey Wart,

A) Get a haircut. Unless you really are a woman.

B) Get off my TV screen.

C) Stick your head in the toilet bowl and slam the lid repeatedly until you knock some sense into yourself, or, preferably, drown.

10 posted on 02/04/2005 8:24:35 AM PST by benjaminjjones
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To: mhking
Even the Redman doesn't want this piece of filth:
Following a lengthy twenty five (25) year investigation of Ward Churchill, Glen Morris and their Indian and non-Indian co-conspirators, collaborators, dupes and unwitting pawns, the American Indian Movement Grand Governing Council’s Council on Security and Intelligence is releasing this lengthy report. We do so because of the continued attacks by this group of deceitful and treacherous frauds against the legitimate leadership of the American Indian Movement and of our international political and diplomatic Corp, the International Indian Treaty Council.

They perpetuate these attacks by fraudulently representing themselves as being members of the American Indian Movement, and the so-called confederation of autonomous aim chapters, now using their web site to sow disruption, division and confusion.

The ringleaders of this conspiracy are two wannabees, white men masquerading as Indians, who are very deceitful and treacherous individuals by the name of Ward Churchill and Glen Morris.

More...


11 posted on 02/04/2005 8:26:19 AM PST by bikepacker67
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To: TexasTaysor
It might be useful in the notion of being able to point out what kinds of idiots we have in the universities and colleges of the nation

And then again, it might make more sense to cart his sorry butt off to Guantanamo, too...

12 posted on 02/04/2005 8:26:59 AM PST by mhking (Do not mess with dragons, for thou art crunchy & good with ketchup...)
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To: mhking

Colorado is a PUBLIC university. FIRE HIM. Let him try to find a private college where taxpayers aren't forced to subsidize his viciousness.

"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical." – Thomas Jefferson


13 posted on 02/04/2005 8:29:23 AM PST by FreeKeys ("Haven't we learned that people DIED on Sept 11th BECAUSE of political correctness?" - Neal Boortz)
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To: FreeKeys

Where I work, if I get caught lying on an application or any other paperwork, for the first offense, I would get fired. Put this American disgrace out the door and down the road. I don't think the Tribe would want him teaching their children. They are honorable people who value truth.


14 posted on 02/04/2005 8:35:36 AM PST by oldenuff2no (Proud Nam Vet)
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To: mhking
And then again, it might make more sense to cart his sorry butt off to Guantanamo, too...

I vote for this solution, or better yet, cart his sorry butt off to Iraq and drop him off beside the road and let his get a much needed education.
15 posted on 02/04/2005 8:38:34 AM PST by TexasTaysor
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To: mhking

Churchill's degrees are from Sangamon State University in Illinois. It was an extremely radical left-wing school; no grading system, just faculty evaluations. Courses were open study. Then they found out that nobody would hire their graduates. It's now part of Illinois State University and its radical days are forgotten.


16 posted on 02/04/2005 8:41:36 AM PST by unbalanced but fair
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To: mhking
Yeah, let's not fire him because he has freedom of speech.

Wait a minute, some butt-kickin' Marine made an off-color (humorous) comment about the poor Taliban A-holes in Afghanistan... why, he should be fired immediately!!! You can't say things like that, it's demeaning to terrorists.

God, the hypocrisy makes me sick.

17 posted on 02/04/2005 8:43:12 AM PST by Terpesman
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To: mhking

Well the bloodyrag college prof is probably well
schooled at legal dissent-- I hear that Commie Johnson
after the S.Ct. decided desecration of a stolen American
flag burned and spat upon whild he and his rabid dogs
chanted their patriotic rant "The Red the White the Blue
we spit on you." All because the people going to a political convention ignored the trash and profanity they
used to secure attention didn't work well enough.Anyhow I
bet this activist to extreme for AIM was schooled by Johnson
after our Supreme Court found desecration of our flag a
protected right.


18 posted on 02/04/2005 8:44:30 AM PST by StonyBurk
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To: Terpesman
God, the hypocrisy makes me sick.

Indeed.

19 posted on 02/04/2005 8:49:47 AM PST by mhking (Do not mess with dragons, for thou art crunchy & good with ketchup...)
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To: mhking

"Chief Lying Ass" threatens heap-big lawsuit.


20 posted on 02/04/2005 8:50:43 AM PST by Petronski (Lately I haven't been all that cranky. I'll tell you about it someday.)
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To: mhking

Churchill should be fired for many things.

If lying to students about known facts, if providing those lies in a manner that embarrasses the university, lies that are nothing but anti-American political propaganda, isn't cause for termination, then what is?

If lying to the student body in the course of providing instruction isn't a cause for termination, what is?

If his instruction cannot be trusted, why keep him?

He lied that he is an American Indian.

He lied about his Vietnam service.

He has a rap sheet a mile long.

He defaulted on his federal student loans.

Even as recent as just late last year he had a warrant for his arrest for failing to appear in court.

He lied to a court when he said his race was "Indian".

He has called for the violent overthrow of the United States government; with a picture of him hold an AK-47 assault rifle.

If all that isn't grounds for immediate termination then the University of Colorado has no standards, no merit, and no integrity.

Free speech should be protected, but all speech has consequences. Lying to students and faculty has no place in an institution of education.


21 posted on 02/04/2005 8:51:10 AM PST by shellshocked
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To: FreeKeys
The problem is, if they fire him, they undermine the tenure process and tenure is an easy way to keep salaries down. (Since there's usually one university in town, nobody's going to want to take the chance that administration might decide your research area is out of fashion, so you'd have to pay people through the roof to take an academic job without tenure possibilities -- at least for real professors, in the sciences.)

The easiest thing is kill his department and put him in one that will not be so friendly to his teaching requests. I'd prefer putting him in the math department to teach remedial algebra. I suspect he's woefully unqualified.

22 posted on 02/04/2005 8:52:56 AM PST by AmishDude
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To: mhking
Boortz hits on a critical point here. He states that Churchill has the right to say what he wants. He does, of course. However, the taxpayers, and the university which employs him both have the right to insist that he not say it there. That's the part of "Freedom Of Speech" or "academic freedom" these pukes seem to forget. The right to say it doesn't necessarily mean it's the right thing to do. Others have every right to not listen to you, and to insist you do it elsewhere. The government cannot step in and arrest or harrass you for your views. That would violate your freedom of speech. Private citizens, however, have every right to protest, to insist that you be fired, etc. Leftists choose to ignore that inconvenient little fact.

I hope he does get fired, and I hope he sues. It'll be fun watching the system he's milked for so many years finally get some karmic retribution on him.

23 posted on 02/04/2005 8:57:29 AM PST by Jokelahoma (Animal testing is a bad idea. They get all nervous and give wrong answers.)
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To: Jokelahoma

He needs to be fired and he needs to have his fat ass kick as well. I know a few NYC firemen who would LOVE to meet this guy . Communist piece of shit he is ...


24 posted on 02/04/2005 9:01:07 AM PST by hineybona
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To: AmishDude
The problem is, if they fire him, they undermine the tenure process and tenure is an easy way to keep salaries down.

Funny thing is, you addressed this to ME, and I'M one of the biggest fans of CHANGING THE WHOLE DAMN SYSTEM NOMATTER WHAT. Pay for Merit, merit, merit. PERIOD. The VASTLY improved productivity of the citizens will in time more than make up for the costs of hiring REALLY PRODUCTIVE PROFESSORS.

As far as the incompetent ones are concerned, the days of their gravy train are NUMBERED. Keep ranting to your state legislators.

25 posted on 02/04/2005 9:16:29 AM PST by FreeKeys ("Haven't we learned that people DIED on Sept 11th BECAUSE of political correctness?" - Neal Boortz)
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To: FreeKeys
Academics will not judge on merit. Trust me, they sway to fashions and trends at the slightest breeze. I see this in mathematics. For a while, biomathematics was the hot thing. It's crap. Now it's Industrial Applied Mathematics, which is supposed to be mathematics without proofs, which is basically just engineering for people who are actually smart.

You assume that there's an objective standard in academics and there is not. And if there is, it will not be followed by academicians, your proposal would simply lead to left-wing academics declaring to be "productive" other left-wing academics.

26 posted on 02/04/2005 9:21:06 AM PST by AmishDude
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To: AmishDude

What are you, a bureaucrat? You're not thinking "outside the box." I don't care if it takes 50 years. It's time to plot the scrapping of the whole damn system and replacing it with a different one. Plans have to be made to do it one step at a time.


27 posted on 02/04/2005 9:45:58 AM PST by FreeKeys (Linda Vester's facial expressions are the cutest ones on TV !! I think I'm in love.)
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To: FreeKeys

I have found most people who decry tenure only have experience with tenure at the elementary and secondary school level. Trust me, if you didn't have tenure, most schools would have to double their salaries right off the bat.


28 posted on 02/04/2005 9:47:57 AM PST by AmishDude
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To: Terpesman

Would taxpyers fund the salary of a klansman teaching kleagle-ese at a college? No, of course not. Then they should not have to fund this hateful speech either.


29 posted on 02/04/2005 9:48:54 AM PST by KC_Conspirator (This space outsourced to India)
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To: mhking; All
Crosslinked:

Terror Teacher, Take Two- the vile Ward Churchill Saga

30 posted on 02/04/2005 10:44:04 AM PST by backhoe (-30-)
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To: AmishDude
I have found most people who decry tenure only have experience with tenure at the elementary and secondary school level. Trust me, if you didn't have tenure, most schools would have to double their salaries right off the bat.

Fine. And the downside is...?

31 posted on 02/04/2005 12:02:55 PM PST by FreeKeys (Linda Vester's facial expressions are the cutest ones on TV !! I think I'm in love.)
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To: mhking
Blogged here for a running timeline of what's going on.
32 posted on 02/04/2005 12:04:27 PM PST by NorCoGOP (http://shawnsblogroom.blogspot.com)
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To: Welsh Rabbit
" The university should fire him on the grounds that they thought they were hiring a Native American."

Turns out Churchill was quite a poser. No wonder he always looks so glum.....he knew once people started checking him out, it would be curtains. He does look like Gloria Steinham though. Has anyone seen her lately?

33 posted on 02/04/2005 12:08:17 PM PST by cookcounty (LooneyLibLine: "The ONLY reason for Operation Iraqi FREEDOM was WMD!!" ((repeat til brain is numb))
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To: FreeKeys

The downside is that Universities wouldn't be able to afford it and the Democrats in your local state capital will raise your taxes. Otherwise, you're against education. Now, if you could guarantee that schools would start getting rid of the womanities, then I'd consider it.


34 posted on 02/04/2005 12:29:40 PM PST by AmishDude
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To: mhking

bttt


35 posted on 02/05/2005 1:17:42 AM PST by lainde
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