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Motorcycle Riders May be Allowed to Ride Without a Helmet
WTOP News ^ | February 4, 2005 | unk.

Posted on 02/04/2005 8:21:40 PM PST by FoxInSocks

RICHMOND, Va. - It's been a tough day for highway safety advocates at the Virginia General Assembly.

The House Militia, Police and Public Safety Committee endorsed legislation allowing motorcyclists 21 and older to ride without a helmet. The vote was 12-to-7.

The panel also rejected a series of bills to continue the use of photo monitoring systems at dangerous intersections in six northern Virginia localities and Virginia Beach. Those pilot programs allow police to use cameras to catch drivers who run red lights.

The programs are scheduled to expire July 1.

Another bill rejected by the committee would have expanded photo-red statewide.

The motorcycle helmet bill will be up for a vote on the House floor early next week. Similar bills have failed on close votes on the House floor three years in a row.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: cistswearhelmets; motorcycles; nannystate; redlightcameras; seriousmotorcyl; vageneralassembly
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And no more red light cameras, either.
1 posted on 02/04/2005 8:21:41 PM PST by FoxInSocks
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To: FoxInSocks

A small particle of liberty to be restored? Wowza! What are they, high?


2 posted on 02/04/2005 8:23:42 PM PST by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: FoxInSocks

Just don't smoke while you ride..God forbid...


3 posted on 02/04/2005 8:24:58 PM PST by BerniesFriend
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To: FoxInSocks

Liberty bump!


4 posted on 02/04/2005 8:25:12 PM PST by Poser (Joining Belly Girl in the Pajamahadeen)
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To: FoxInSocks

Makes sense. On the same token, the gov't should allow the insurance industry more liberties when it comes to pricing premia for risky lifestyles.


5 posted on 02/04/2005 8:26:04 PM PST by Kurt_D
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To: FoxInSocks

It is not the governments place to tell people that they have to wear a helmet...if you dont than it is your own damn fault


6 posted on 02/04/2005 8:29:13 PM PST by grand old partier
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To: FoxInSocks

Wow-a return to liberty in Virginia!


7 posted on 02/04/2005 8:29:35 PM PST by MontanaBeth (NEVER FORGET)
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To: Hank Rearden
Liberty? You mean I will have to go back to fearing for my life every time I come to an intersection around here.

Sounds like I'd be well advised to get a gun to carry around with me in my car lest I encounter any of these red-light runners we're gonna' have, so I can defend myself.

Like if the law isn't going to protect you, there's no choice but to exercise the Second Amendment.

8 posted on 02/04/2005 8:30:42 PM PST by muawiyah (tag line removed)
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To: Kurt_D

actually in many (most?) states motorcycles are not part of the no fault insurance system. So this will have no effect.

Besides, do people realise that FMVSS 218 which established helmet standards only goes up to 15 mph?

Most accidents are the result of the automobile? Riders who get into accidents are usually riders with less than 6 months of experience and have no MC endorsement (aka motorcycle license).

Also federal motor vehicle safety standard 218 has NO, ZIP, NONE standard regarding neck stresses.

just a few trivia points.


9 posted on 02/04/2005 8:30:57 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Kurt_D

Yeah no helmet no insurance.

If you want to live like a Viking die like a Viking in a heroic blase of glory.

Just don't expect your fellow premiem payers to foot the bill for a life time in the vegetable patch.


10 posted on 02/04/2005 8:31:35 PM PST by beaver fever
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To: FoxInSocks

I bet there is an ABATE in that state!


11 posted on 02/04/2005 8:31:41 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: muawiyah
I was referring to the helmets, but dumping the spy cameras is a good thing too.

And having a firearm available, should you need it, is a good thing. Just ask anybody around here . . . . . .

12 posted on 02/04/2005 8:32:06 PM PST by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: grand old partier
Oh, yes, the motorcycle guys ~ certainly they should be allowed to do what they wish. However, they should all be required to make a deposit to pay for the body removal when they get hit.

Taxpayers should be allowed to wash their hands of the whole matter, right?!

13 posted on 02/04/2005 8:32:09 PM PST by muawiyah (tag line removed)
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To: BerniesFriend
Just don't smoke while you ride..God forbid...

Funny you should say that . . . there's now talk of banning smoking in Virginia's public buildings. Give with one hand, take with the other.

14 posted on 02/04/2005 8:32:31 PM PST by FoxInSocks ("It's fun to shoot some people." -- James Mattis, Lt. Gen., USMC)
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To: FoxInSocks

What the...? Did some terrorists poison the local water supply with a Common Sense bug or something? Will ther ebe further outbreaks?


15 posted on 02/04/2005 8:32:47 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks (I'd like to find your inner child and kick its little ass)
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To: FoxInSocks

I don't like being told I have to wear a helmet on a motorcycle I bought and paid taxes for. I do wear a helmet and other protective gear because it's the smart thing to do.


16 posted on 02/04/2005 8:34:05 PM PST by BipolarBob (Yes I backed over the vampire, but I swear I didn't see it in my rearview mirror.)
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To: FoxInSocks

I was once subjected to a head-injury seminar and got to meet accident victims. You'd think they were born retarded, they were so messed up by their accidents. It was scary for a kid.

Basically there are times when it should be safe to ride without a helmut, then there are conditions when you totally need one. Tough issue, IMO.


17 posted on 02/04/2005 8:34:08 PM PST by SteveMcKing
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To: Hank Rearden

And bullets, although I was thinking a Street Sweeper might be more persuasive in a dispute.


18 posted on 02/04/2005 8:34:10 PM PST by muawiyah (tag line removed)
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To: muawiyah

...i would have to agree


19 posted on 02/04/2005 8:34:57 PM PST by grand old partier
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To: martin_fierro
Hi M_F-

Of interest to you for the hooligan ping list...

~ Blue Jays ~

20 posted on 02/04/2005 8:35:49 PM PST by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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