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Mike Rosen: The professor must go (Ward Churchill at Univ. of Colorado)
Rocky Mountain News column ^ | February 4th, 2005 | Mike Rosen

Posted on 02/07/2005 2:30:03 AM PST by ajolympian2004

Rosen: The professor must go

February 4, 2005

Isn't it ironic that a man who trampled on the free speech rights of Italian-Americans marching in the Columbus Day parade, now hides behind the First Amendment to save his job at the University of Colorado?

Let's make one thing clear: this is not a First Amendment issue. As an American citizen, Ward Churchill can defame the memory of Americans murdered on 9/11 and spew his brand of mindless bile without fear of legal prosecution because the First Amendment prohibits Congress from making laws that abridge his freedom of speech. But this isn't a criminal matter; it's an employment issue, and his employer, CU-Boulder, should be free to fire him for his hateful, absurd and grossly insensitive utterances. Liberty is not license. Freedom of speech is not absolute.

On my radio show Monday, Churchill conceded that students and faculty should be held to the same standard regarding penalties for reprehensible expression. Students have been suspended or expelled for statements far less offensive than Churchill's. Where's their First Amendment protection?

Churchill has referred to those murdered on 9/11 by al-Qaida fanatics as "little Eichmanns," and has declared that those innocent civilians - among them women and children, and the firefighters and police who tried to save their lives - got what they deserved. Imagine the fate of a CU professor who said something like: "CU women deserve to be raped; they're little sluts"? The point is that, even when protected by tenure, the right of professors to speak their mind with impunity is not absolute. You remember how quickly CU president Betsy Hoffman suspended football coach Gary Barnett for remarks that turned out to be entirely defensible. (She later had to apologize for slandering him on national TV.) No one can say precisely where the line is but Churchill has crossed it and he deserves to be fired far more than the 9/11 victims deserved to die.

Almost as sickening as Churchill's hateful, anti-America tirades were some of the mealy-mouthed early responses of some CU regents, administrators and faculty members (News columnist and CU law professor Paul Campos excepted). Interim Chancellor Phil DiStefano said "I may personally find his views offensive," but then went on to misrepresent the First Amendment as a defense for Churchill. When he got nailed for that "may" qualifier and had a few days to see which way the wind was blowing, he belatedly summoned the courage to stiffen his tepid criticism.

Regent Patricia Hayes explained that the regents' meeting, scheduled for yesterday, was to be less about considering Churchill's termination and more "to show the community and the rest of the university that we are appalled." In other words, it would be public posturing to cover their backsides. I'm not impressed that they're "appalled," that goes without saying. As I write this, I'm hoping some regents show a stiffer backbone and take action. If Churchill isn't fired for cause, and pronto, CU officials might find Coloradans and their elected representatives unreceptive to their pleas for more taxpayer money from the legislature this year.

Churchill has equated America with Nazi Germany. He also reiterated that statement on my radio show Monday. In an interview with a left-wing organization, Satya, Churchill - pictured in combat fatigues, a Che-style beret, dark glasses and cradling an assault weapon - declared that more 9/11s may be necessary, and that he wants the "U.S. out of North America, off the planet, out of existence altogether."

As an Indian activist, he's so blinded by his hatred for America and the white man that he can't think straight, much less objectively. He doesn't just have a chip on his shoulder; he has a giant redwood. And this was the chairman of CU's Ethnic Studies Department?

Ironically, Churchill has turned his self-indulgent obsession into a profitable career. If CU is pressed for cash, it should not only terminate Churchill, it should eliminate this department and this major. There's nothing in it that can't be adequately covered in history, sociology, anthropology and other legitimate disciplines. What do you do with an ethnic studies major, anyway, other than repeat the cycle and teach ethnic studies, fomenting anger and resentment within the next generation of college students? It's a breeding ground for divisiveness, separatism and irredentist fantasies to settle past scores.

Don't waste any tears on Churchill. If CU fires him, he won't be unemployed long. He'll likely become a celebrity and martyr in leftist academe, and be snatched up by some other depraved university. That's OK. At least he won't be peddling his hatred at the expense of Colorado taxpayers.

Mike Rosen's radio show airs daily from 9 a.m. to noon on 850 KOA.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: Colorado
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Listen to Mike's interview of Ward Churchill here on his KOA 850am web page:

http://www.850koa.com/shows/rosen/index.html


1 posted on 02/07/2005 2:30:03 AM PST by ajolympian2004
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To: ajolympian2004
Part 1, 2 and 3 of the interview of Ward Churchill on the Mike Rosen show:

http://www.startcolorado.com/iac/KOA-AM/churchill-1.wma http://www.startcolorado.com/iac/KOA-AM/churchill-1.wma http://www.startcolorado.com/iac/KOA-AM/churchill-1.wma

2 posted on 02/07/2005 2:33:57 AM PST by ajolympian2004
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To: ajolympian2004
Sorry... copid the same link three times... notice the 1, 2 and 3 in the links...

http://www.startcolorado.com/iac/KOA-AM/churchill-1.wma http://www.startcolorado.com/iac/KOA-AM/churchill-2.wma http://www.startcolorado.com/iac/KOA-AM/churchill-3.wma

3 posted on 02/07/2005 2:35:07 AM PST by ajolympian2004
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To: ajolympian2004
Memo to Mike: Inviting scumbags to your show, helping them to peddle their garbage, is no way to go through life, son!
4 posted on 02/07/2005 2:39:20 AM PST by eclectic (Liberalism is a mental disorder)
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To: eclectic

Actually... I'm listening to the interview right now. Mike tears people like this to shreds and allows them to discredit themselves by allowing them to speak.


5 posted on 02/07/2005 2:45:19 AM PST by ajolympian2004
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To: eclectic

Inviting scumbags to your show, helping them to peddle their garbage

If you listen, you need to listen closer, you heard what another freeper said: Mike tears people like this to shreds and allows them to discredit themselves by allowing them to speak.


6 posted on 02/07/2005 2:55:29 AM PST by garylmoore (God Bless you W, you have prevailed.)
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To: garylmoore
If you listen

Why do I need to? I already know about this Churchill character more than I ever wanted. Neither do I care to listen him debating the finer points of his worldview.

7 posted on 02/07/2005 3:10:36 AM PST by eclectic (Liberalism is a mental disorder)
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To: ajolympian2004
Churchill Ward is not an Indian. Turns out he doesn't have any Indian blood. Not only that, but the "professor" doesn't even have a Ph.D.

Out with the fraud!
8 posted on 02/07/2005 3:14:38 AM PST by Bon mots
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To: garylmoore; eclectic

Just finished listening to Mike's interview. Ward Churchill is a dangerous person to have in any school preaching to young impressionable students in our country. He mixes half-truths and lies together in a manner where he sounds very convincing. I can see how some of his students at the Univ. fo Colorado and others who have attended his talks around the country would fall for his brand of hate and distortion.


9 posted on 02/07/2005 3:19:35 AM PST by ajolympian2004
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To: Bon mots; eclectic; ajolympian2004; garylmoore
This man should have been fired YEARS ago. There are old articles of his that were nearly as troubling as his 9/11 argument.

I saw a photo of him with a machine gun. This is the type of person, who wouldn't want you to have a gun.

There are 3 types of Leftists, the Utopians who are idealistic and Innocent child like in their views, the politically corrects like Hillary, and this guy. He is dangerous.
10 posted on 02/07/2005 3:20:34 AM PST by LauraleeBraswell ( There's no Double Talk from Dubya!)
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To: Bon mots

This guy is a certified nut case.


11 posted on 02/07/2005 3:21:11 AM PST by gulfcoast6 (I can do anything through Christ who gives me strength.)
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To: LauraleeBraswell
He is dangerous.

No, he is not dangerous. He is a perverted moron with a big pie-hole. The dangerous ones don't give interviews

12 posted on 02/07/2005 3:30:26 AM PST by eclectic (Liberalism is a mental disorder)
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To: ajolympian2004; All

Are you folks aware that Ward Churchill is going to give his 9/11 speech TOMORROW at CU. Roll out the red carpet.


13 posted on 02/07/2005 3:31:26 AM PST by Trteamer ( (Eat Meat, Wear Fur, Own Guns, FReep Leftists, Drive an SUV, Drill A.N.W.R., Drill the Gulf, Vote)
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To: ajolympian2004
I can see how some of his students at the Univ. fo Colorado and others who have attended his talks around the country would fall for his brand of hate and distortion.

This is an odd statement to make. I suggest you examine your own convictions to determine why you feel the lure of the dark side ;-) Seriously, anybody equating the victims of 9/11 to Adolf Eichmann, is simply beyond the pale. All attention should be not on the nut job himself, but on those who tenured him, invite him for interviews, give him platform to talk

14 posted on 02/07/2005 3:43:50 AM PST by eclectic (Liberalism is a mental disorder)
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To: ajolympian2004
University of Colorado has had a very bad year.

This is the place to begin cleaning up their act.

15 posted on 02/07/2005 4:07:27 AM PST by OldFriend (America's glory is not dominion, but liberty.)
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To: eclectic

So you don't need to listen.

Other people may not have heard.

Letting this idiot run his mouth is a good thing....


16 posted on 02/07/2005 4:11:14 AM PST by tiamat (Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints.)
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To: LauraleeBraswell

IF he is the war heroe he wants everyone think he is --he
ought know th eterm shoot and run--or shoot and scoot.He done did shoot his wad and this posturing about what he's gonna do if they fire him is just an un,ilitary as Hanoi Jane/John With all their handholding with the enemy.


17 posted on 02/07/2005 4:28:02 AM PST by StonyBurk
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To: ariamne

Ping


18 posted on 02/07/2005 4:33:23 AM PST by jan in Colorado ("...and you shall know the truth,and the truth shall make you free" John 8:32)
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To: ajolympian2004

Lawmakers should be on notice: Ward Churchill goes or CU is shut down.


20 posted on 02/07/2005 5:04:28 AM PST by Lazamataz (Proudly Posting Without Reading the Article Since 1999!)
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To: Trteamer
Are you folks aware that Ward Churchill is going to give his 9/11 speech TOMORROW at CU. Roll out the red carpet.

Un-f***ing-believable.

21 posted on 02/07/2005 5:05:42 AM PST by Lazamataz (Proudly Posting Without Reading the Article Since 1999!)
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To: ajolympian2004
For all the Academic Freedom folks, where was their defense of Lawrence Summers, the President of Harvard? He's been forced to crawl on his belly and appoint not one but two independent commissions to investigate and to recruit more women to Harvard. Where are the protestors?

The Academic Freedom folks, like the Anti-War folks are flying false flags. They don't believe in these principles, they're simply on the other side, the side of the Anti-Americans, the Islamo-Fascists and the commie-socialists. That's it, politics by any means.

22 posted on 02/07/2005 5:33:46 AM PST by Jabba the Nutt (Jabba the Hutt's bigger, meaner, uglier brother.)
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To: ajolympian2004
This Ward Churchill has been playing a sort of "Eichmann" trick himself.

Remember Eichmann's statement that "if there were no Jews" he would not be mistaken for one? Well, here's Ward Churchill, who is not an Indian, pretending he is an Indian.

Although I don't have access to his work on the matter, I would suspect he's been very much a part of the movement to suppress American cultural recognition that Indians ever existed.

In that sense, Ward Churchill is, himself, an Eichmann carbon copy.

23 posted on 02/07/2005 6:03:19 AM PST by muawiyah (tag line removed)
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To: ajolympian2004

Don't know anything about Rosen(talk show radio host?),but if Churchill is dumb(and arrogant)enough to go on his show,let em do it.These creeps need to be exposed.


24 posted on 02/07/2005 6:04:28 AM PST by thombo
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To: ajolympian2004
Doing a www.google.com search for 'squaw "ward churchill"' gives you 90 references. Reading through the first half dozen reveals that it's Ward Churchill himself who has been leading the effort to suppress the use of the word "squaw", which is the Abenaki word for WOMAN, not the Onondaga word for female genitalia as he claims.

I have no doubt there's other stuff in the record concerning the effort of the Abenaki to gain federal recognition that's going to bring up Ward Churchill, and without even finding it I just know the man's going to be in there arguing that the Abenaki are "white folk", not Indian at all!

Churchill also does a lot of focusing on what he calls genocide ~ he's a veritable student of the practice.

So, when was it that it occurred to me that this Churchill guy may have been studying Eichmann for genocidal ideas?

25 posted on 02/07/2005 6:10:26 AM PST by muawiyah (tag line removed)
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To: ajolympian2004
his employer, CU-Boulder, should be free to fire him for his hateful, absurd and grossly insensitive utterances.

Yes. And if he were working for a private institution, he'd probably be gone by now. But CU Boulder is a public college, and I doubt the speech alone would be considered grounds for dismissal, and Chruchill would have a lawsuit if they did fire him. The college is going to need more than that.

26 posted on 02/07/2005 6:52:53 AM PST by GVnana (If I had a Buckhead moment would I know it?)
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To: jan in Colorado

Surely the older WWII generation alumni must have some influence, especially since colleges count on their alumni for annual funds.

I think of the people we knew who died on 9/11, and I just want to lose my breakfast.

This creep (I won't even say his name) will surely have much explaining to do when he meets his maker. In the meantime, it would be nice if he were at least made to squirm.


27 posted on 02/07/2005 7:46:09 AM PST by ariamne (reformed liberal-Shieldmaiden of the Infidel)
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To: Bon mots

I wonder if Churchill is even his real name.


28 posted on 02/07/2005 8:00:40 AM PST by jwalburg (Those buried included children still clutching toys)
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To: Jabba the Nutt

And there's a UNLV prof under fire for suggesting that gays, like other people without children tend not to save for the future as much as those with children. He has to promise to give up his next pay increase because one student was "offended" by his statement and unofficially complained.


29 posted on 02/07/2005 8:03:54 AM PST by jwalburg (Those buried included children still clutching toys)
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