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Kerry Hedges on Form 180
NewsMax ^ | February 7, 2005 | Carl Limbacher

Posted on 02/07/2005 8:39:39 AM PST by Kaslin

Sen. John Kerry reiterated his pledge on Monday to sign the form that would allow the government to release all his military records, but said he wanted to know exactly what was in his file before doing so.

"I have a stack of different material they sent me," Kerry told radio host Don Imus. "Every time they send me something I want to know what they sent me."

"I'll get it done," Kerry insisted in the next breath.

Last week the 2008 presidential hopeful suggested he wanted to review his full Navy file to make sure of "what is in the record and what isn't in the record" before signing Form 180.

"I'm going to sit down with them and make sure that they are clear and I am clear as to what is in the record and what isn't in the record and we'll put it out," he told "Meet the Press" host Tim Russert.

Kerry did not explain his reference to "what isn't in the record," though questions arose late in the campaign about why he received his honorable discharge six years after leaving the service.

Pressed earlier today on when he intended to sign Form 180, Kerry said only, "Shortly."

The full exchange went like this:

IMUS: You also told Tim that you would sign Form 180 releasing all of your military records. Have you done that?

KERRY: Yeah. We're gonna do that. Absolutely, I will. But listen, I also think . . .

IMUS: When are you going to do that?

KERRY: As soon as I get, as required by the military, precisely . . .

IMUS: Why don't you do it today?

KERRY; Because I have a stack of different material they sent me. Every time they send me something I want to know what they sent me. I'll get it done. . . .

IMUS: By noon today?

KERRY: No. But shortly. [END OF EXCERPT]


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"I'll get it done," Kerry insisted in the next breath.

What he really meant was: "I'll get it done as soon as hell freezes over."

1 posted on 02/07/2005 8:39:39 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Won't do it.


2 posted on 02/07/2005 8:40:59 AM PST by Frumious Bandersnatch
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To: Kaslin
One word comes to mind: "NEVER!"

Denny Crane: "There are two places to find the truth. First God and then Fox News."

3 posted on 02/07/2005 8:41:22 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub

PING


4 posted on 02/07/2005 8:43:24 AM PST by MileHi
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To: Kaslin
Because I have a stack of different material they sent me. Every time they send me something I want to know what they sent me. I'll get it done. . . .

There will have to come a time when they stop sending him things. Will Kerry sign it then?

5 posted on 02/07/2005 8:44:16 AM PST by Lijahsbubbe
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To: Kaslin

6 posted on 02/07/2005 8:44:27 AM PST by RushCrush (If it takes a bloodbath, let's get it over with. No more appeasement. - Reagan)
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To: Kaslin

Gee, I'm so surprised. Everyone knows how frank and forthcoming Lieutenant Kerry is. . .right? Right? < cough>


7 posted on 02/07/2005 8:45:07 AM PST by Capriole (the Luddite hypocritically clicking away on her computer)
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To: Frumious Bandersnatch

of course he won't. But we all knew that the minute he told Tim Russert he would. Just what the heck does he mean, "they send me a stack of papers"...this is crap. It is real simple, you sign the 180..the military releases your records. He just wants to go thru them all and make sure we only see what he wants us to see....again.


8 posted on 02/07/2005 8:46:12 AM PST by SAMS (Army wife & Marine Mom)
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To: Kaslin

Right! He'll geter done, when like you say happens. Lying traitors SOS that he is.


9 posted on 02/07/2005 8:46:13 AM PST by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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To: Kaslin
"I'm going to sit down with them and make sure that they are clear and I am clear as to what is in the record and what isn't in the record and we'll put it out," he told "Meet the Press" host Tim Russert.

Is the Senator going to TELL the Navy what "is" in the record?

Does it again depend on the definition of "is"?

10 posted on 02/07/2005 8:46:28 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: goldstategop

Exactly


11 posted on 02/07/2005 8:46:30 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

...this just makes the Swift Boat Veterans...look better and better......


12 posted on 02/07/2005 8:47:17 AM PST by smiley
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To: Kaslin

"I will sign Form 180 as soon as Sandy Berger finishes reviewing the file to determine what's in there and what's no longer in there."


13 posted on 02/07/2005 8:47:39 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Kaslin

It's a good thing Kerry wasn't elected.

All the terrorists would have to do is send him a form 180 and the entire executive branch would be paralyzed.


14 posted on 02/07/2005 8:47:56 AM PST by VisualizeSmallerGovernment (Question Liberal Authority)
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To: Lijahsbubbe
There will have to come a time when they stop sending him things. Will Kerry sign it then?

Like I said he'll sign it as soon as hell freezes over

15 posted on 02/07/2005 8:48:15 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Don't hold your breath.


16 posted on 02/07/2005 8:48:24 AM PST by sweetiepiezer ((((((((((((((MARINES))))))))))))))
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To: Kaslin
"I'll get it done," Kerry insisted in the next breath.

What he really meant was: "I'll get it done as soon as hell freezes over."




"Mr. Kerry, you have a collect call from Hell. Will you accept the charges?"
17 posted on 02/07/2005 8:48:41 AM PST by StoneGiant
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To: Kaslin

Just tells me that there is a fish in the wood pile. If there was nothing in the files that smelled - he'd a signed the form when the Swifties were on his butt.


18 posted on 02/07/2005 8:49:31 AM PST by sandydipper (Less government is best government!)
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To: Lijahsbubbe
Every time they send me something I want to know what they sent me.

What the heck does that mean?

Do they send him unsolicited stuff all the time? That sure is what that sounds like to me.

19 posted on 02/07/2005 8:49:38 AM PST by Howlin (It's a great day to be an American -- and a Bush Republican!!!!)
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To: Kaslin
Perhaps one of you freepers with past military experience can help us out. Just how often does the Military "send You"
your records without a request.
20 posted on 02/07/2005 8:49:44 AM PST by lonerepubinma
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To: Kaslin

Credit to Immus for pursuing this diddler. This fake, phony, fraud.


21 posted on 02/07/2005 8:50:23 AM PST by dennisw (Qur’an 9:3 “Allah and His Messenger dissolve obligations.”)
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To: Kaslin
"I'm going to sit down with them and make sure that they are clear and I am clear as to what is in the record and what isn't in the record and we'll put it out," [Kerry] told "Meet the Press" host Tim Russert.

No, Kerry, the 180 isn't so you can put out the material; the Form 1-8-0 is so that 3rd party observers can access the complete record and judge for themselves what is in there and what isn't.

Hey, hey, ho, ho; Kerry: sign the one-eight-oh!

22 posted on 02/07/2005 8:50:47 AM PST by NonValueAdded ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good" HRC 6/28/2004)
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To: Kaslin
"I have a stack of different material they sent me," Kerry told radio host Don Imus.

Yea, his military records, which he won't release. He doesn't need a SF180, he can release them without it.
23 posted on 02/07/2005 8:51:22 AM PST by RetroWarrior ("We count it death to falter, not to die")
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To: Kaslin
he just keeps digging himself in deeper and deeper, doesn't he!?


"Sen. John Kerry reiterated his pledge on Monday to sign the form that would allow the government to release all his military records, but said he wanted to know exactly what was in his file before doing so."


rotfl.......he knows what should be in there and is trying to make sure every trace of it has been successfully purged before he releases it!

24 posted on 02/07/2005 8:51:43 AM PST by Zacs Mom (Anti-Bush sentiment swills around the Rat Party like the contents of an open sewer)
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To: Kaslin

Dumbkoff thinks that we're all going to forget about it and the issue will go away. I think it should be mentioned every time he shows his ugly mug on TV.

And - ahem - as another poster above so rightly said -- Kerry is going to tell the NAVY what's in his record? Oh, this is gonna be good.

If he keeps getting asked about the Form 180, watch for Kerry to drop his ass off the radar for about six months.


25 posted on 02/07/2005 8:52:19 AM PST by Right Cal Gal (Armed, Female and Southern!)
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To: Kaslin
It's obviously a priority for him...

Do you think he'd take that long signing a withdrawal slip from Terayza's bank account?

27 posted on 02/07/2005 8:53:01 AM PST by Darkwolf377 ("Of the four wars in my lifetime none came about because the U.S. was too strong."-Ronald Reagan)
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To: Lijahsbubbe
Because I have a stack of different material they sent me.

Publisher's Clearing House? Cheese of the Month Club? The Fidel Castro Fan Club? Who on God's Green Earth is sending John Kerry ANYTHING at this point?

28 posted on 02/07/2005 8:53:09 AM PST by VisualizeSmallerGovernment (Question Liberal Authority)
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To: goldstategop

One word comes to mind: "NEVER!"

=======

Geez, where's your compassion?
Shouldn't it be "NEEEEEVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVER"? ;-))


29 posted on 02/07/2005 8:53:09 AM PST by GeekDejure ( LOL = Liberals Obey Lucifer !!!)
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To: Kaslin

The real question is why they never asked him about this before the election. Now, all of a sudden, they realize it's important.


30 posted on 02/07/2005 8:54:10 AM PST by jalisco555 ("The best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity." W. B. Yeats)
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To: Kaslin

Has anyone (except at DU) really expected Hanoi John to release his records?


31 posted on 02/07/2005 8:54:37 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: Kaslin
What he really meant was: "I'll get it done as soon as hell freezes over."

No, what he really meant was: "I'll get it done as I scrub all the incriminating evidence out of the official record."

32 posted on 02/07/2005 8:54:42 AM PST by blanknoone (GWB: Saying what he means and meaning what he says)
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To: Yaelle
Is the Senator going to TELL the Navy what "is" in the record?

Yes, as soon as he is elected President in 2008…2012…2016…
33 posted on 02/07/2005 8:56:16 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: Kaslin; Mo1; Howlin; Peach; BeforeISleep; kimmie7; 4integrity; BigSkyFreeper; RandallFlagg; ...

Oh yeah, this is a SHOCKER!!


34 posted on 02/07/2005 8:56:25 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: Kaslin

""I'm going to sit down with them and make sure that they are clear and I am clear as to what is in the record and what isn't in the record and we'll put it out,""

There is the out. He will jsut say he isn't signing because it is not complete.


35 posted on 02/07/2005 8:56:29 AM PST by IamConservative (To worry is to misuse your imagination.)
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To: Kaslin
KERRY: Yeah. We're gonna do that. Absolutely, I will. But...

Yes, but...

-PJ

36 posted on 02/07/2005 8:56:52 AM PST by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: lonerepubinma

I got out in 1976 after 8 years, haven't heard from
military records since.


37 posted on 02/07/2005 8:57:12 AM PST by dwilli
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To: lonerepubinma

Never.


38 posted on 02/07/2005 8:57:27 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: IamConservative

Actually the "out" is that nobody on Earth gives a rat's rump about John Kerry, so long as he's nowhere near the presidency.


39 posted on 02/07/2005 8:58:11 AM PST by VisualizeSmallerGovernment (Question Liberal Authority)
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To: Kaslin

Does John Kerry know that it's February?


...of 2005?!?


40 posted on 02/07/2005 8:58:23 AM PST by Redcloak (More cleverly arranged 1's and 0's)
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To: lonerepubinma

I got out 37 years ago, and I'm still waiting for them to send me "something".


41 posted on 02/07/2005 8:58:56 AM PST by anoldafvet (Every time a child is born, it reaffirms God's faith in humanity.)
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To: R. Scott

That's what I thought.
Thanks


42 posted on 02/07/2005 9:00:25 AM PST by lonerepubinma
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To: Kaslin

How do we know that some RAT in the military, will not erase forever some information kerry does not want out?


43 posted on 02/07/2005 9:00:35 AM PST by gedeon3
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To: Howlin
"I'm going to sit down with them and make sure that they are clear and I am clear as to what is in the record and what isn't in the record and we'll put it out," [Kerry] told "Meet the Press" host Tim Russert

Translated into english, this means that he has not yet figured out a way to classify portions of his record in order to hide the facts.

Once he finds all the material that might be controversial, he will attempt to have it redacted and then sign the release.

This guy is such a turd.

44 posted on 02/07/2005 9:01:02 AM PST by Cold Heat (What are fears but voices awry?Whispering harm where harm is not and deluding the unwary. Wordsworth)
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To: Kaslin

What he really meant was: "As soon as I can pull my weight and get some things removed, changed, and falsified on my records, I'll release them."


45 posted on 02/07/2005 9:01:41 AM PST by I'm ALL Right! (Welcome to my addiction.)
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To: Zacs Mom

You got it.
I gotta buy some stock in "White Out"


46 posted on 02/07/2005 9:03:58 AM PST by Roccus (Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati)
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To: Kaslin

It's in his will.


47 posted on 02/07/2005 9:04:58 AM PST by chiefqc
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To: Kaslin
KERRY; Because I have a stack of different material they sent me. Every time they send me something I want to know what they sent me. I'll get it done. . . .

Translation: Kerry wants to see what is in his record before signing authorization to allow others to receive the information. Signing an SF 180 means that others can receive the contents of Kerry's military files without Kerry acting as a filter or intermediary. I suspect that he knows what is in the records. More than likely, he will try to have negative items removed prior to signing a SF 180. Hopefully, someone within DOD will leak it if Kerry tries some behind the scenes nonsense.

Personally, I want to see the documentation surrounding his first PH. He has never released an after action report or casualty report for this award.

48 posted on 02/07/2005 9:05:10 AM PST by kabar
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To: gedeon3

I heard there is a guy down in Texas that makes(err has) copies of military records from back then, maybe he has the sKerry ones (grin)


49 posted on 02/07/2005 9:08:25 AM PST by Foolsgold (dumped daschel he he he he)
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To: Howlin
What the heck does that mean?

Hilarious! I thought the same thing.

50 posted on 02/07/2005 9:08:47 AM PST by Lijahsbubbe
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