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Canadian Wal-Mart Seeking Union to Close
AP ^ | 2/9/5 | ADAM GELLER

Posted on 02/09/2005 1:24:57 PM PST by SmithL

NEW YORK, (AP) --

Wal-Mart Stores Inc. said Wednesday it will close a Canadian store whose workers are on the verge of becoming the first ever to win a union contract from the world's biggest retailer.

Wal-Mart said it was shuttering the store in Jonquiere, Quebec, in response to unreasonable demands from union negotiators, that would make it impossible for the store to sustain its business. The United Food and Commercial Workers of Canada last week asked Quebec labor officials to appoint a mediator, saying that negotiations had reached an impasse.

"We were hoping it wouldn't come to this," said Andrew Pelletier, a spokesman for Wal-Mart Canada. "Despite nine days of meetings over three months, we've been unable to reach an agreement with the union that in our view will allow the store to operate efficiently and profitably."

Pelletier said the store will close in May. The retailer had first discussed closing the Jonquiere store last October, saying that the store was losing money.

The store in Jonquiere, about 100 miles north of Quebec City, became the first unionized Wal-Mart store in North America last September, after the bargaining unit was certified by provincial labor officials.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Canada; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: blackmail; organizedlabor; palsolidarity; unions; unionthugs; walmart
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1 posted on 02/09/2005 1:24:57 PM PST by SmithL
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To: SmithL

Yay, Wal-Mart!


2 posted on 02/09/2005 1:26:33 PM PST by aynrandfreak (If 9/11 didn't change you, you're a bad human being)
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To: SmithL

Union: We demand more pay!
Store Owner: I can't afford to pay you more!
Union: We'll go on strike!
Store Owner: I quit!
Union: Hey...you can't do that...we'll all be out of a job.
Store Owner: Seeya!


3 posted on 02/09/2005 1:27:38 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: SmithL

LOL. The socialist scum got exactly what they deserved.


4 posted on 02/09/2005 1:28:08 PM PST by FormerACLUmember (Honoring Saint Jude's assistance every day.)
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To: SmithL
I like the way Wal-Mart negotiates. Hey Union Kiss my......
5 posted on 02/09/2005 1:28:12 PM PST by WilliamWallace1999
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To: SmithL
Is Atlas Shrugging?
6 posted on 02/09/2005 1:29:07 PM PST by wolfpat (Dum vivimus, vivamus)
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To: SmithL
Now they can all go shop at Crappy Tire.


7 posted on 02/09/2005 1:29:21 PM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: SmithL

A lesson of the free market.


8 posted on 02/09/2005 1:29:36 PM PST by mlc9852
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To: MineralMan

Who is John Galt?


9 posted on 02/09/2005 1:29:46 PM PST by FormerACLUmember (Honoring Saint Jude's assistance every day.)
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To: SmithL

Join the union and lose your job......... simple........


10 posted on 02/09/2005 1:30:28 PM PST by Red Badger (ANONYMOUS IRAQI VOTER: "I dipped it deep as if I was poking the eyes of all the world's tyrants.)
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To: SmithL

"Never Negotiate with Blackmailers," eh?


11 posted on 02/09/2005 1:31:01 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (ATTN. MARXIST RED MSM: I RESENT your "RED STATE" switcheroo using our ELECTORAL MAP as PROPAGANDA!)
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To: SmithL; nuconvert

ping


12 posted on 02/09/2005 1:31:16 PM PST by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: Blurblogger

make that "extortionists"


13 posted on 02/09/2005 1:31:29 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (ATTN. MARXIST RED MSM: I RESENT your "RED STATE" switcheroo using our ELECTORAL MAP as PROPAGANDA!)
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To: FormerACLUmember

You're right. One less store for the Communist Chinese to be making money from through Wal-Mart.


14 posted on 02/09/2005 1:31:38 PM PST by em2vn
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To: SmithL

Beautiful. I love happy endings. Always look for the union label -- "Unemployed."


15 posted on 02/09/2005 1:32:11 PM PST by speedy
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To: SmithL
Now there's a model for others to follow. I think Walmart has done this before. Good for Walmart.

BTW as nearly as I can tell, the steel workers in Pueblo CO are still on strike. They went on strike in the early 90's, 50 cents apart at negotiations. Steel company hired scabs, a year later went non-union (not sure how that all happend) hired the scabs permanantly and offerd to hire the strikers too. A lot insisted thy'd win in court against the comapny and refused to work. On strike now for at least 10 years.

THOSE GUYS are darwin award prospects.

16 posted on 02/09/2005 1:33:57 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (God has blessed Republicans with really stupid enemies.)
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To: SmithL

Way to go Wal-Mart!!!

Don't let the unions get in the door! It would be the death nail for Wal-Mart.

Stand up to them. I'm going shopping at Wal-Mart right now and buy something I don't even need.


17 posted on 02/09/2005 1:35:02 PM PST by Calif4Bush
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To: Calif4Bush

Teamster here. You sound a lot like someone who inherited a whole lot of stocks and bonds from mommy and daddy and still live at home. Some of us out here work for a living. Some of us even make a living wage because we are Union. You may kiss my union a--.


18 posted on 02/09/2005 1:38:36 PM PST by Sterco
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To: SmithL

HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! Another case of the stinking socialists screwing their own!


19 posted on 02/09/2005 1:38:44 PM PST by EUPHORIC (Right? Left? Read Ecclesiastes 10:2 for a definition. The Bible knows all about it!)
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To: MineralMan

LMAO! That hit the nail on the head!


20 posted on 02/09/2005 1:38:55 PM PST by New Orleans Slim
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To: SmithL

Parasitic unions do not learn. If the workers want to unionize, the company can say we close our doors. One unionized store is the bad apple Wal-Mart doesn't need.


21 posted on 02/09/2005 1:40:31 PM PST by caisson71
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To: caisson71

Whats the matter do we have a little Walmart stock that we are worried about?


22 posted on 02/09/2005 1:42:33 PM PST by Sterco
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To: Sterco
Have an opinion on the US Railway act?

BTW: Although opposed to unions, I hold the "Air Teamsters" at ABX in higher regard than the trucking locals. What's it like on the automotive side.

23 posted on 02/09/2005 1:42:42 PM PST by Clemenza (Are you going to bark all day, little doggie, or are you going to bite?)
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To: SmithL

Wal-Mart & Unions

I'm no fan of either.


24 posted on 02/09/2005 1:42:54 PM PST by Dad2Angels
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To: SmithL

Ooh. I love this.


25 posted on 02/09/2005 1:43:31 PM PST by uncitizen
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To: Sterco
A lot more people make a "living wage" without the union.
Atleast 100 to 1.
I can be as sarcastic as you if your up to it.....
26 posted on 02/09/2005 1:43:36 PM PST by sausageseller (Look out for the jackbooted spelling police. There! Everywhere!(revised cause the "man" accosted me!)
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To: SmithL

GOOD!!!

I'd close any business that I owned rather than unionnize too. I believe in paying someone precisely what they are worth to me. No more, no less, and no one else is going to dictate that to me.

I happen to like Wal-Mart... I live in a small tourist based town, where if you wanted anything other than rubber tomahawks, pseudo-art, booze and basic groceries, you had to drive 75 miles or more to get it. Wal-Mart came in and made life simpler and less expensive for me.

That said, I DO wish Wal-Mart would go back to the "Buy American First" as they were in Sam Walton's day..... I wouldn't mind paying a little more for more American made products.....(Assuming there ARE any american made consumer products anymore)


27 posted on 02/09/2005 1:45:30 PM PST by LegendHasIt
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To: Clemenza; Sterco

Automotive=locomotive. But you knew that didn't you. ;-)


28 posted on 02/09/2005 1:47:51 PM PST by Clemenza (Are you going to bark all day, little doggie, or are you going to bite?)
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To: Sterco

Okay, but I'll need to pay my due first to the guy who lives in a house you payed for.


29 posted on 02/09/2005 1:47:56 PM PST by Calif4Bush
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To: SmithL

send in the North American FreeTrade agrement Wal~Mart truckers and remove their merchandise, take the sign off the wall and leave the building standing as a symbol of defiance


31 posted on 02/09/2005 1:49:04 PM PST by rface ("...the most schizoid freeper I've ever seen")
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To: jasoncann

I wouldn't want any of you smucks in my Union anyways.


32 posted on 02/09/2005 1:50:14 PM PST by Sterco
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To: wolfpat

"Is Atlas Shrugging?"

Precicely! 8^>


33 posted on 02/09/2005 1:50:54 PM PST by RobRoy (They're trying to find themselves an audience. Their deductions need applause - Peter Gabriel)
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To: Sterco

The unions put us out of business. First they failed to enforce their own contracts with general contractors who then hired non-union subs at will (and the non unions were of course always cheaper). Then they just kept squeezing and squeezing. Our employees wanted to be non-union because we would be able to pay them at least the same, they could invest their own money-with no vesting, provide health insurance and other benefits for less than the union cost. But no, the union wanted to make an example of us. We lost a business we had for 36 years. And most of the employees went to non union companies.


34 posted on 02/09/2005 1:51:23 PM PST by Aria
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To: Sterco

Unions are destroying America.


35 posted on 02/09/2005 1:52:37 PM PST by Fierce Allegiance (Happy Fierce Allegiance Day)
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To: Sterco

Really, sometimes I think the only "conservative" part of some people is the contents of their wallets.


36 posted on 02/09/2005 1:53:05 PM PST by investigateworld (Babies= A sure sign He hasn't given up on mankind!)
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To: aynrandfreak
Yay, Wal-Mart!

D I T T O !!!!!

37 posted on 02/09/2005 1:55:09 PM PST by timestax
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To: Sterco; jasoncann
I wouldn't want any of you smucks in my Union anyways.

What's a smuck? Someone who makes jelly??


38 posted on 02/09/2005 1:55:22 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Protectionism is economic ignorance!)
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To: Aria

The major Railroads are all Union and all are prospering. I can speak only for my industry. I am sure there are abuses on both sides of the issue. Our collective bargaining process has made a lot of sacrifices since I hired out. You have not seen many rail strikes for a reason. We worked to our mutual benefit. Unions that kill the employer get their due I guess.


39 posted on 02/09/2005 1:55:44 PM PST by Sterco
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To: SmithL
Fantastic! I hope they close all the stores in Quebec. Unions suck the meager margins out of companies like Wal-Mart. Let them go shop at Crappy Tire, the Bay or Towers.
40 posted on 02/09/2005 1:56:52 PM PST by kevinm13 (The Main Stream Media is dead!)
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To: investigateworld
Really, sometimes I think the only "conservative" part of some people is the contents of their wallets.

What do I want as a consumer? The highest quality at the lowest price. Nothing more, nothing less. Therefore, I avoid Junk Mart and go to Target instead.

What would I want as a business owner? A cooperative workforce that would treat me with the same respect that I treat them.

41 posted on 02/09/2005 1:57:29 PM PST by Clemenza (Are you going to bark all day, little doggie, or are you going to bite?)
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To: Sterco
i agree, as a union member myself i understand the balance needed in the workforce. people should realize that a union CAN NOT exist without abuse of management. i did however live in a town were the union ran a company out with their abuse.

people, it's called BALANCE and most the people here are to stupid to understand that simple idea. one of the biggest hurdles left for republicans is to ease up on their hateful attitudes towards unions. many in our base are not wealthy business people, we just can't vote democrat since they have lost their souls.




"Teamster here. You sound a lot like someone who inherited a whole lot of stocks and bonds from mommy and daddy and still live at home. Some of us out here work for a living. Some of us even make a living wage because we are Union. You may kiss my union a--."

42 posted on 02/09/2005 1:57:51 PM PST by postaldave (ACLU = Anti-Christian, Liberal, and Un-American.)
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To: SmithL

Right on! Go Walmart - I didnt used to shop there but now I avoid Target and go to Walmart.


43 posted on 02/09/2005 1:58:52 PM PST by sasafras (sasafras (The road to hell is paved with good intentions))
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To: Sterco

Railroads are supported by the goverment and do not make a profit by themselves.


44 posted on 02/09/2005 1:59:48 PM PST by Calif4Bush
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To: sasafras

bump to the top


45 posted on 02/09/2005 2:00:02 PM PST by timestax
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To: postaldave

Anyone opposed to merit pay cannot be considered a conservative. Its one thing for independent collective bargaining for working conditions, quite another when you view any attempt at introducing merit pay as "favoratism."


46 posted on 02/09/2005 2:00:57 PM PST by Clemenza (Are you going to bark all day, little doggie, or are you going to bite?)
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To: Sterco
The major Railroads are all Union and all are prospering.

That is not true.  The railroads are solvent because they are supported by us taxpayers.

47 posted on 02/09/2005 2:01:14 PM PST by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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To: Sterco

The railroads have been doing well due to the sheer volume of trade coming into the West Coast out of Asia. You should see all the double-stack cars coming onto to BNSF system out of the ports of Seattle and Tacoma.


48 posted on 02/09/2005 2:02:45 PM PST by Clemenza (Are you going to bark all day, little doggie, or are you going to bite?)
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To: SmithL

Canada unions took their lessons from the Chicago mob. The leaders are basically thugs.


49 posted on 02/09/2005 2:04:44 PM PST by hgro
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To: Sterco

The difference is that the railroads are ALL union...if you had a non-union competitor things would start to change. The unions we were obligated to did nothing about the general contractors hiring non-union subs and of course the non-unions flourished while we died. I think the unions were more interested in pacifying their general contractors since they generally hired more men then we did. We had to threaten to sue the plumber's union to get them to audit a signatory contractor who had paid nothing for years despite working the plumbing jobs. The electrician's union never lifted a finger for us but it was the laborers who eventually broke our back.


50 posted on 02/09/2005 2:05:39 PM PST by Aria
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