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Canadian Wal-Mart Seeking Union to Close
AP ^ | 2/9/5 | ADAM GELLER

Posted on 02/09/2005 1:24:57 PM PST by SmithL

NEW YORK, (AP) --

Wal-Mart Stores Inc. said Wednesday it will close a Canadian store whose workers are on the verge of becoming the first ever to win a union contract from the world's biggest retailer.

Wal-Mart said it was shuttering the store in Jonquiere, Quebec, in response to unreasonable demands from union negotiators, that would make it impossible for the store to sustain its business. The United Food and Commercial Workers of Canada last week asked Quebec labor officials to appoint a mediator, saying that negotiations had reached an impasse.

"We were hoping it wouldn't come to this," said Andrew Pelletier, a spokesman for Wal-Mart Canada. "Despite nine days of meetings over three months, we've been unable to reach an agreement with the union that in our view will allow the store to operate efficiently and profitably."

Pelletier said the store will close in May. The retailer had first discussed closing the Jonquiere store last October, saying that the store was losing money.

The store in Jonquiere, about 100 miles north of Quebec City, became the first unionized Wal-Mart store in North America last September, after the bargaining unit was certified by provincial labor officials.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Canada; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: blackmail; organizedlabor; palsolidarity; unions; unionthugs; walmart
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To: investigateworld
Really, sometimes I think the only "conservative" part of some people is the contents of their wallets.

What do I want as a consumer? The highest quality at the lowest price. Nothing more, nothing less. Therefore, I avoid Junk Mart and go to Target instead.

What would I want as a business owner? A cooperative workforce that would treat me with the same respect that I treat them.

41 posted on 02/09/2005 1:57:29 PM PST by Clemenza (Are you going to bark all day, little doggie, or are you going to bite?)
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To: Sterco
i agree, as a union member myself i understand the balance needed in the workforce. people should realize that a union CAN NOT exist without abuse of management. i did however live in a town were the union ran a company out with their abuse.

people, it's called BALANCE and most the people here are to stupid to understand that simple idea. one of the biggest hurdles left for republicans is to ease up on their hateful attitudes towards unions. many in our base are not wealthy business people, we just can't vote democrat since they have lost their souls.




"Teamster here. You sound a lot like someone who inherited a whole lot of stocks and bonds from mommy and daddy and still live at home. Some of us out here work for a living. Some of us even make a living wage because we are Union. You may kiss my union a--."

42 posted on 02/09/2005 1:57:51 PM PST by postaldave (ACLU = Anti-Christian, Liberal, and Un-American.)
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To: SmithL

Right on! Go Walmart - I didnt used to shop there but now I avoid Target and go to Walmart.


43 posted on 02/09/2005 1:58:52 PM PST by sasafras (sasafras (The road to hell is paved with good intentions))
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To: Sterco

Railroads are supported by the goverment and do not make a profit by themselves.


44 posted on 02/09/2005 1:59:48 PM PST by Calif4Bush
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To: sasafras

bump to the top


45 posted on 02/09/2005 2:00:02 PM PST by timestax
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To: postaldave

Anyone opposed to merit pay cannot be considered a conservative. Its one thing for independent collective bargaining for working conditions, quite another when you view any attempt at introducing merit pay as "favoratism."


46 posted on 02/09/2005 2:00:57 PM PST by Clemenza (Are you going to bark all day, little doggie, or are you going to bite?)
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To: Sterco
The major Railroads are all Union and all are prospering.

That is not true.  The railroads are solvent because they are supported by us taxpayers.

47 posted on 02/09/2005 2:01:14 PM PST by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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To: Sterco

The railroads have been doing well due to the sheer volume of trade coming into the West Coast out of Asia. You should see all the double-stack cars coming onto to BNSF system out of the ports of Seattle and Tacoma.


48 posted on 02/09/2005 2:02:45 PM PST by Clemenza (Are you going to bark all day, little doggie, or are you going to bite?)
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To: SmithL

Canada unions took their lessons from the Chicago mob. The leaders are basically thugs.


49 posted on 02/09/2005 2:04:44 PM PST by hgro
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To: Sterco

The difference is that the railroads are ALL union...if you had a non-union competitor things would start to change. The unions we were obligated to did nothing about the general contractors hiring non-union subs and of course the non-unions flourished while we died. I think the unions were more interested in pacifying their general contractors since they generally hired more men then we did. We had to threaten to sue the plumber's union to get them to audit a signatory contractor who had paid nothing for years despite working the plumbing jobs. The electrician's union never lifted a finger for us but it was the laborers who eventually broke our back.


50 posted on 02/09/2005 2:05:39 PM PST by Aria
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To: quantim

Posted by quantim to Sterco
On News/Activism 02/09/2005 2:01:14 PM PST · 47 of 48

The major Railroads are all Union and all are prospering.
That is not true. The railroads are solvent because they are supported by us taxpayers.


OK you show me the major RR that is supported by the taxpayers. Other than AMTRAK. Know what you speak of. Put up or shut up.


51 posted on 02/09/2005 2:05:57 PM PST by Sterco
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To: Sterco
There's no doubt that unions have had their place in the U.S. economy, but there's a bigger story here than just securing "living wages" for their workers. I'll provide two major points of contention here:

1. Unions are often bad for business. If he were still alive, I could introduce you to a relative of mine who was a shop steward in a steel mill in Pennsylvania for 30 years. After he retired he would freely admit that his union destroyed the steel industry in this country . . . his union had everything you could ask for -- extensive paid vacations, paid holidays (including RELIGIOUS holidays), etc. And yet they would still meet in the union hall at the end of every contract and try to figure out "what else" they could get from the company. The rusting, rotting hulks of these mills all over Pennsylvania are a scathing indictment of the unions that destroyed these companies.

2. Their politics are not only idiotic -- they're often counter-productive, too. One of the major reasons for the demise of labor unions in this country is the fact that they have slowly rendered themselves useless by hitching their wagons to Marxist political causes. Once they started convincing governments to implement public health care, guaranteed pensions, mandatory unemployment benefits, etc., the unions were no longer needed to the extent they once were. Organized labor in this country was simply too successful in lobbying governments to mandate things THAT THE UNIONS THEMSELVES USED TO COLLECTIVELY BARGAIN FOR ON BEHALF OF THEIR MEMBERS.

52 posted on 02/09/2005 2:08:10 PM PST by Alberta's Child (I'm not expecting to grow flowers in the desert.)
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To: SmithL
I remember when Acme was THE supermarket in our region. Then the unions came, the clerks got rude, the prices went up, and the competition came in and stripped Acme bare. There are dozens of similar examples.

When there were no government safety regulations, and many of the industries were, in effect, employment 'monopsonies', there was a good reason for unionizing. No more. OSHA and the FTC have that all covered. Now, unions are simply greedy socialist collectives.
53 posted on 02/09/2005 2:08:22 PM PST by Born to Conserve
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To: Sterco

Hey, when I was in a union, the union steward threatened to beat my a-- the first time he met me. My union 'application' had been misplaced in the mail.

It was a mob dominated union. Do you guys still do that or are you nicer to people now adays?


54 posted on 02/09/2005 2:09:58 PM PST by gogipper
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To: Sterco

My grandfather was a union man… until they "asked" him to lie under oath.


55 posted on 02/09/2005 2:10:25 PM PST by auboy
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To: Sterco

3 years with Santa Fe. Railroads prosper despite unions, the work rules are nuts. Hey, it wasn't until 1991 that they got rid of the hazardous duty pay in North Dakota. You know what the hazard was? INDIAN ATTACKS. Yeah, a real contribution.


56 posted on 02/09/2005 2:13:00 PM PST by gogipper
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To: postaldave
Baloney! All it takes for a union to get in is for the workforce to believe they will be better off under the union's bargaining power than their own. Name one abuse that isn't already covered under U.S. national labor rules that "management" commits? From my experience with three companies that became unionized, it all came down to "greed" on the worker's part (the unions promised them more). If someplace is so bad to work for ("management abuse" again) in the first place, why work there at all?
57 posted on 02/09/2005 2:13:56 PM PST by jettester (I got paid to break 'em - not fly 'em)
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To: Clemenza

The railroads have been doing well due to the sheer volume of trade coming into the West Coast out of Asia.

IOW's, non-union workers manufacture & ship goods to the US to be unloaded by union longshoremen and hauled by union railroaders and sold in a non-union Wal-Mart. So basically, the union folks would have nothing to do were it not for the non-union stiffs?

58 posted on 02/09/2005 2:15:13 PM PST by elli1
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To: postaldave
...most the people here are to stupid to understand

Yep, us poor old dumb asses that have been around here long enough to see the democrats go down in flames are just too stupid to understand much of anything.

Best you take your business to another web site, where they're all smart.

Try the DU funnies or maybe even that paragon of slick Dimowitcrap, Barbell, er, uh, Barslop, no, uh, Biffbop, yeah, or is it Batcrap? Bartcop! Yeah, that's it.

Whatever.

In any event, you appear to be in the wrong place.

59 posted on 02/09/2005 2:15:23 PM PST by OldSmaj (Jihad this, Islam! Your religion is false and your god is non-existent! Come get me.)
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To: WilliamWallace1999

There's something deeply wrong about that picture... I approve.


60 posted on 02/09/2005 2:15:38 PM PST by discostu (quis custodiet ipsos custodes)
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