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Every Star Trek series that came after Captain James T. Kirk was a cheap, politically-correct knock-off.


2 posted on 02/12/2005 10:53:01 AM PST by Gunrunner2
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To: Gunrunner2
Every Star Trek series that came after Captain James T. Kirk was a cheap, politically-correct knock-off.

The Enterprise series has been many things but has hardly been politically correct; but it has been Pro-Life, Pro-Gun and Pro-War.

7 posted on 02/12/2005 10:56:08 AM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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To: Gunrunner2

That is because Kirk had a pair. Picard developed a semblance of cajones in the last few years of NextGen. I always thought the Picard should have been a bureaucrat and that Riker should have been captain. What the hell, I was not a writer for the series.


8 posted on 02/12/2005 10:57:29 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Half a league, half a league rode the MSM into the valley of obscurity)
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To: Gunrunner2

I thought Next Generation was pretty good, but everything after that got too dam wierd.

The original series was quite groundbreaking for it's day. It amounted to social studies in space. And actually, even though it was "The Federation", you could see alot of regular American values in it.

I think it was on Thursday nights, but it's been awhile, thats for sure.


15 posted on 02/12/2005 11:01:19 AM PST by djf
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To: Gunrunner2
exactly. Each series sucked. They had the same lame scenarios rehashed in every series. The unnatural dialog (especially in TNG) made it look like a Shakespearean play instead of a scifi show.
20 posted on 02/12/2005 11:05:30 AM PST by flashbunny (Every thought that enters my head requires its own vanity thread.)
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ha ha! That`s just what I was going to say. Like my friend says, Star Trek; The politically correct generation. One of the main reasons the original worked so well was the underlying humor of it, I mean who hasn`t tried to imitate James T.Kirk and the hes-i-ta-tion way - of -speak-ing, and all the great sayings "He`s dead Jim" "The engines canna hold up much longer" or Kirks all time great scream "YOU`RE KILL-ING HERRR!!!!" or the antagonism between Bones and Spock "That green blood of his"..great stuff! Although a lot of people would say the acting was bad, it really wasn`t, it was pretty brilliant in my opinion. It made that show. If they used Jeffery Hunter instead of William Shatner, it would never have been that popular, it wouldn`t have stood out as much.

Star Trek the next Generation though was a 180 degree turn around abomination. Everyone came across as cardboard cutouts. I mean did anyone ever say "f**k that Klingon bastard" on that ship? You got the impression everyone was walking on eggshells half the time so as to "not offend". Gimmie a freggin break. SNOOORE!


23 posted on 02/12/2005 11:08:49 AM PST by Imaverygooddriver (I`m a very good driver and I approve this message.)
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To: Gunrunner2

Every Star Trek series that came after Captain James T. Kirk was a cheap, politically-correct knock-off.

Yep. There was only one Star Trek, and that was it.


37 posted on 02/12/2005 11:14:50 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Gunrunner2

Bump that.


41 posted on 02/12/2005 11:16:21 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Gunrunner2

DS9 was a great series.


42 posted on 02/12/2005 11:16:29 AM PST by marajade
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To: Gunrunner2
I watched "Enterprise" a few times.

It was BORING.

There is no greater sin for a TV show.

107 posted on 02/12/2005 11:44:25 AM PST by LibKill (Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.)
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To: Gunrunner2

Well if I was going to do another show I would take that Henry Mudd character from the orignial series who was a skirt chasing con man with a old battleax of a wife.

I would cast Bill and Hillary Clinton in the major roles.


149 posted on 02/12/2005 12:02:24 PM PST by Swiss
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Re: "Every Star Trek series that came after Captain James T. Kirk was a cheap, politically-correct knock-off."

Your pulling our collective leg, right? Have you seen the original? Or should I say the politically-correct original? For heaven's sake it defined politically-correct television. Kirk slept with every female in the Galaxy. Much ado about not interfering with other cultures that they then proceed to interfere with. The very definition of Liberals.
212 posted on 02/12/2005 12:49:16 PM PST by Mark in the Old South (Note to GOP "Deliver or perish" Re: Specter I guess the GOP "chooses" to perish)
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Every Star Trek series that came after Captain James T. Kirk was a cheap, politically-correct knock-off.

Preach it, brother!

223 posted on 02/12/2005 1:01:26 PM PST by TheBigB ("Official Keeper of the FR Eye Candy" ~Title bestowed by SirLurkedalot)
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Anything but the original is NOT real Star Trek. I could care less what happens to the dopey spin-offs.

Live long and prosper, fellow FReepers.

227 posted on 02/12/2005 1:02:20 PM PST by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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To: Gunrunner2

<< Every Star Trek series that came after Captain James T. Kirk was a cheap, politically-correct knock-off. >>

Absolutely.

Roddenbury's original was Masonic!

Reminiscent of our beloved FRaternal Republic.


263 posted on 02/12/2005 1:38:54 PM PST by Brian Allen (I fly and can therefore be envious of no man -- Per Ardua ad Astra!)
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I thought Captain Sisko ate Kirk's lunch at about every turn, except Sisko never "did" a green chick.

290 posted on 02/12/2005 2:04:25 PM PST by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Gunrunner2

I agree....however...

The "prequel" was a brilliant idea. It would have worked out if they would have stayed with the premise. They quickly (almost instantly) went right into the same crap that bored us with everything since Kirk wrestled monsters and women in the same episodes.

I quit watching after the second or third week when it was obvious it was a warmed-over continuation of Picard-land.

If you want fun, watch Battlestar and the Stargate shows. They're pretty good.


423 posted on 02/12/2005 4:21:08 PM PST by sayfer bullets
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I think the series that followed the original showed who the creative genius for the show was. It wasn't Roddenberry, it was the faceless studio guys who insisted Gene stick to the medium.

Rick Bermann followed Roddenberry and destroyed the golden goose (though they did make a lot of money on it).

Battlestar Galactica is a very good show so far as well. And, no mention of Red Dwarf, a fine SciFi British import.


431 posted on 02/12/2005 4:53:24 PM PST by Joe_October (Saddam supported Terrorists. Al Qaeda are Terrorists. I can't find the link.)
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Every Star Trek series that came after Captain James T. Kirk was a cheap, politically-correct knock-off.

and substandard imitations

442 posted on 02/12/2005 5:23:17 PM PST by af_vet_1981
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Yep....grotesque garbage after the original.


569 posted on 02/13/2005 11:15:51 PM PST by international american (Tagline now fireproof....purchased from "Conspiracy Guy Custom Taglines"LLC)
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To: Gunrunner2

>>Every Star Trek series that came after Captain James T. Kirk was a cheap, politically-correct knock-off.<<

You nailed it!


583 posted on 02/14/2005 11:18:37 AM PST by RobRoy (They're trying to find themselves an audience. Their deductions need applause - Peter Gabriel)
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