Posted on 02/12/2005 11:58:01 PM PST by backhoe
And we're loving every minute of it! :=)
RE: a Doug Duncan supporter trying to take him down in the primary
I thought about this whole thing over the weekend and what you wrote here appears to be quite plausible. A real threefer, smear Erlich, take out a good behind-the-scenes guy (Steffen) and smear MOM all in one shot. Straight from the WJC School of Political Shenanigans.
The following Sun thread is sort of relevant:
http://www.baltimoresun2.com/talk/showthread.php?t=11128
Appreciate the link!
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22joseph+steffen%22&btnG=Google+Search
Somewhat of a digression. It's just sad the extent to which this whole thing proves the old infamous adage "repeat a lie often enough"....
Suddenly, the MSM and numerous left leaning and supposedly "apolitical" blogs and sites are out there saying, in essence "yah, Joe Steffen, created the nasty rumor about MOM, got caught" etc. It is clear that none of them have actually looked at a year's worth of Steffen's posts the way a number of us have. Because if they did, they'd see that Steffen, while perhaps a bit naive about being scammed by trolls and eventually hunted down by the mean and nasties, was not a "prince of darkness" or a liar. But they can't let the truth get in the way of their preconceieved notions of us EEEeeeevil conservatives (to Lefty lurkers, picture me, for example, with my Scrooge scowl, my ancient, ancient three piece suit, with gold watch hanging there, sentencing, daily, thousands of orphaned children to work on their hands and knees in the coal mines! ;)
I just tell folks I take breaks from forclosing on widows and orphans by tossing Grandmaw into a snowbank...
I thought about this whole thing over the weekend and what you wrote here appears to be quite plausible. A real threefer, smear Erlich, take out a good behind-the-scenes guy (Steffen) and smear MOM all in one shot. Straight from the WJC School of Political Shenanigans.
It wouldn't surprise me either. Duncan is that kind of politician.
Carling, the Democrats and the Post Toasties (but I repeat myself...) have been trying to invalidate the content on this board since 1997.
They ain't succeeded yet, but they've ALWAYS succed. ;-)
I agree that it is not proven, but I don't think that the "assumption" is dubious.
Viewing the posts and freepmails of MD4Bush in their totality, the October MD4Bush was goading people and trying to entrap them. Specifically, he was trying to get them to them into make irresponsible statements.
More recently MD4Bush simply posted the FReepmails on an unrelated thread at the same time as the WP was printing much of them. That is consistent with his prior conduct as he apparently was trying to make it look like the WP might have gotten the private freepmail off the public posting by him.
Therefore, I respectfully ask why you think that it is dubious to believe the same person was MD4Bush and was posting and freepmailing in insidious ways to damage FR and Ehrlich on both occasions.
Having said all that, which of the following do you think would be violative of the ECPA?
(1) Person, without authorization, accesses another's computer when the person goes to lunch. Prints off FReepmails and gives them to the WP.(2) Person buys another's used computer, finds FReepmail stored on it's hard drive and reveals the FReepmails.
(3) Person buys another's used computer, finds that FR is in his favorites, goes to FR which automatically logs him in as MD4Bush (using the stored cookie), prints the FReepmails accessed from FR servers, and gives the copies to the WP.
Because the recent activities associated with the MD4Bush account are inconsistent with the comments of MD4Bush last October. They're like two different persons.
I think all three of the scenarios you outlined are potential violations of the ECPA, and they are plausible explanations for what happened. If the initial interception was accidental, the disclosure of the emails to the WP would invalidate any good-faith exceptions.
In any case, MD4Bush is a disruptor and is clearly here to cause trouble for FReepers. My advice would be that Jim ought to put out MD4Bush's identity immediately. NCPAC lost his job over this incident. Considering MD4Bush's behavior in this incident, I think he ought to lose hi sas well.
No offense, but since you signed up on the 10th and have only two posts, I need to call this fact to attention.
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