Posted on 02/13/2005 7:33:53 AM PST by Libloather
Sen. Clinton offers abortion solution
By John Aloysius Farrell
Denver Post Washington Bureau Chief
New York - It seemed a reasonable, almost obvious, point to make: The Democratic Party should represent Americans of all creeds and religious convictions, even those who have qualms about abortion.
"We shouldn't ... have a special-interest group define our stand on choice," said former Rep. Tim Roemer, a Democrat from Indiana, referring to abortion-rights groups such as NARAL Pro-Choice America.
The hissing began at the rear of the room full of Democratic activists and spread throughout the hall. Last week, having failed to gain much support, Roemer dropped out of the race for party chairman.
It was a creepy little scene in a contest marred by behind-the-scenes ugliness, and illustrative of the challenge facing the victor in that race, incoming Democratic chairman Howard Dean.
Assessing their party, many professional Democrats see a glass half full. Outgoing chairman Terry McAuliffe is leaving Dean a massive grassroots donor list, a bulging party war chest, a new headquarters building and a state-of-the-art get-out-the-vote operation.
If just 60,000 more people in Ohio had voted Democratic, McAuliffe ruefully notes, he'd be picking up orders from President Kerry and heading for a new job as ambassador to Great Britain. A tweak here, a TV ad there, and the Democrats are back in business.
But the passion in the party comes from its liberal activists - the MoveOn folks and Michael Moore fans and NARAL members - whom Dean famously called "the Democratic wing of the Democratic Party." These are people who oppose the Iraq war, despise President Bush and his domestic initiatives, and think their party needs to purify itself and harden its opposition.
Resolving those views - sustaining the left's passion while reassuring centrists - may be Dean's toughest chore.
The last Democratic president was a master at this kind of balancing act, so perhaps it is no surprise that a way out of this dilemma was offered by someone named Clinton.
In a Jan. 24 speech in New York, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton used that most contentious of issues - abortion - to offer the Democrats a template.
"I respect" your values, Clinton told abortion foes. She asked them to move past the apocalyptic rhetoric employed by both sides in the debate, and to work with her and other congressional Democrats to actually reduce the number of abortions in America.
"We can all recognize that abortion in many ways represents a sad, even tragic choice to many, many women," she said. Such sentiments are rarely heard in Democratic venues.
Clinton declared her support for "teenage celibacy" programs but said they are not enough.
She asked conservatives to join her in supporting family planning.
"Seven percent of American women who do not use contraception account for 53 percent of all unintended pregnancies," Clinton said, adding that "more than half of all unintended pregnancies end in abortion."
Clinton's proposal faces many obstacles. Catholics, for example, are taught that both abortion and contraception are sinful. Other congregations, and many secular families, don't like schools teaching kids about sex or birth control. And if you believe that life begins at the instant of conception, then some forms of contraception, which keep newly fertilized embryos from becoming viable, are tantamount to abortion.
But both sides need to consider: Are they letting the perfect be the enemy of the good?
Religious conservatives would have to settle for progress short of victory, and send a signal to their elected officials that the benefits of saving countless unborn children from abortion are worth blinking on sex ed.
Liberals would have to acknowledge that, 30 years after Roe vs. Wade made abortion legal, many fellow Americans still view the practice as Clinton described it, as a "tragic choice" of last resort.
The best way to keep abortion legal and safe may be to make it rare.
In her travels as first lady, Clinton witnessed the evil of communist Romania, where a dictator ordered women to have more children, childless couples were punished, contraceptives and abortions were banned, and "once a month, Romanian women were rounded up at their workplaces."
"They were taken to a government-controlled health clinic, told to disrobe ... (and) examined by a government doctor with a ... secret police officer watching," she said.
Clinton also saw communist China, where "local government officials used to monitor women's menstrual cycles and their use of contraceptives because they had the opposite view - no more than one child," she said.
Maybe there is no way out of our culture wars. Perhaps Clinton's offer was just posturing.
But liberals should listen, and conservatives should test her sincerity.
Why? I thought both houses of Congress had already passed something and Bush signed it? Isn't it now in court? Are you sure Hillary voted against it?
http://www.vote-smart.org/issue_keyvote_detail.php?vote_id=3241&can_id=WNY99268
It appears she did vote "no." That will be difficult for her to explain away.
I still remember the news stories about her two brothers slugging around like white trash........LOL, that was funny stuff.
Thanks for the reminder, we must be ever-vigilante as to her true positions.
"I respect" your values, Clinton told abortion foes"
They still think pro-life people, who have been puncturing 'rat hypocrisies for thirty years, can be so easily conned.
Not.
"Uuummm, Terry, you would still be 60,000 votes short."
Not to mention, a day late and a dollar short. He has his ill-gotten millions to cushion the blow, but Terry McAuliffe is a loser and that's all he ever will be.
She won't make the Kerry mistake: "I actually voted for it before I voted against it."
If the Dems would drop the abortion plank and the gay plank they could easily return to power. Many of your "typical Democratic households" that I know have gone over to the GOP for these two issues.
Dems won't drop those issues, but Hillary will. Hillary has always been a big gay rights proponent, but it will be interesting to watch her moderate her position. Hillary knows what it takes to win, the Democrat party does not.
to the dems she will say "see my votes supported abortion" and to the average voter she will say "we must work together to limit abortion" and in this country a sucker is born every minute. she will run and she will be hard to beat
You don't see it as being duplicitious (sp?)?
She is talking out of both sides of her mouth, but I live in NY - upstate to be exact, and I know tons of people who voted for her. I can't explain why someone I know would consider such a thing, but it happens. I have already heard them grabbing onto her "new statements" on abortion and making political hay with them. Like I said there is a sucker born every minute. Not all in this country will educate themselves before voting. She was here a couple of weeks ago, sad to say just a couple of miles from where I sit here typing, I have talked to people who oogled her and stood in line for pics and to shake her hand. Sad but true. Better to stay on guard with her heiness.
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OK. Let's see. Testing, testing, testing . . . Nope, still has less sincerity in her whole body than does my 5 year old in his pinky when he's trying to con dad into letting him watch TV.
Then Kerry would have won the electoral vote and lost the popular vote. So, by their own standards, Kerry would have been an illegitimate president, without a "mandate", as they have claimed Bush is. And he would be obligated to make compromises with the opposition, which is what they have demanded of Bush. Or, would they suddenly "discover" what the Constitution says about how elections work?
Give the man a cigar!!
Dr. Dean, Chairman of the DNC, doesn't believe in protecting the little woman in the womb's choice!
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