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States Mull Taxing Drivers By Mile
CBS | Feb. 14, 2005 | [none cited]

Posted on 02/15/2005 10:16:10 AM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder

States Mull Taxing Drivers By Mile CORVALLIS, Ore., Feb. 14, 2005

(CBS) College student Jayson Just commutes an odometer-spinning 2,000 miles a month. As CBS News Correspondent Sandra Hughes reports, his monthly gas bill once topped his car payment.

"I was paying about $500 a month," says Just.

So Just bought a fuel efficient hybrid and said goodbye to his gas-guzzling BMW.

And what kind of mileage does he get?

"The EPA estimate is 60 in the city, 51 on the highway," says Just.

And that saves him almost $300 a month in gas. It's great for Just but bad for the roads he's driving on, because he also pays a lot less in gasoline taxes which fund highway projects and road repairs. As more and more hybrids hit the road, cash-strapped states are warning of rough roads ahead.

Officials in car-clogged California are so worried they may be considering a replacement for the gas tax altogether, replacing it with something called "tax by the mile."

Seeing tax dollars dwindling, neighboring Oregon has already started road testing the idea.

"Drivers will get charged for how many miles they use the roads, and it's as simple as that," says engineer David Kim.

Kim and his team at Oregon State University equipped a test car with a global positioning device to keep track of its mileage. Eventually, every car would need one.

"So, if you drive 10 miles you will pay a certain fee which will be, let's say, one tenth of what someone pays if they drive 100 miles," says Kim.

The new tax would be charged each time you fill up. A computer inside the gas pump would communicate with your car's odometer to calculate how much you owe.

The system could also track how often you drive during rush hour and charge higher fees to discourage peak use. That's an idea that could break the bottleneck on California's freeways.

"We're getting a lot of interest from other states," says Jim Whitty of the Oregon Department of Transportation. "They're watching what we're doing.

"Transportation officials across the country are concerned about what's going to happen with the gas tax revenues."

Privacy advocates say it's more like big brother riding on your bumper, not to mention a disincentive to buy fuel-efficient cars.

"It's not fair for people like me who have to commute, and we don't have any choice but take the freeways," says Just. "We shouldn't have to be taxed."

But tax-by-mile advocates say it may be the only way to ensure that fuel efficiency doesn't prevent smooth sailing down the road.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: gastax; goodidea; hybrid; mile; mileage; mileagetax; taxes; transportation
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1 posted on 02/15/2005 10:16:10 AM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

Lousy idea, IMO.


2 posted on 02/15/2005 10:17:11 AM PST by BenLurkin
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

every gallon is already taxed and taxed and taxed ad nauseum


3 posted on 02/15/2005 10:17:34 AM PST by Vaquero
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

Time to REVOLT!


4 posted on 02/15/2005 10:18:27 AM PST by bigfootbob
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder
Kim and his team at Oregon State University equipped a test car with a global positioning device to keep track of its mileage. Eventually, every car would need one.

Call me stupid, but I thought a speedometer already did this.

5 posted on 02/15/2005 10:19:43 AM PST by skip_intro
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

Do we have a link?


6 posted on 02/15/2005 10:20:34 AM PST by dandelion (http://thequestionfairy.blogspot.com/)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder
BIG GOVERNMENT, BIG TAXING, BIG SPENDING, BIG BROTHER continues it's taxing ways of hitting your pocket book. Bad enough they tax you to build the stinking roads, now they will tax you for using the roads that your tax dollars built!!!! Folks, IT IS TIME FOR A REVOLUTION. IT IS TIME TO TAKE BACK THIS REPUBLIC FROM THE FOOLS IN THE VARIOUS LEGISLATURES AROUND THIS REPUBLIC! Call it what you like. Soon, you will not have a dime to your name. You earn $5,000 a month. You will give $5,000 a month to the government. To reissue as they see fit. BIG GOVERNMENT. Led by republicans, democrats, communists and socialists. They are all doing it.
7 posted on 02/15/2005 10:20:34 AM PST by RetiredArmy (America will NEVER be free as long as we have Democrats.)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

"Officials in car-clogged California are so worried they may be considering a replacement for the gas tax altogether, replacing it with something called "tax by the mile."

"Seeing tax dollars dwindling, neighboring Oregon has already started road testing the idea. "

First these idiots bitch when you use gas, and then bitch when you don't pay the taxes since you are not using gas.
Al Qaeida is not our worst problem...the Al Gores of America are.


8 posted on 02/15/2005 10:21:33 AM PST by American Vet Repairman (If you are going to play with fire make sure someone is getting it on video.)
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To: skip_intro

An odometer, even ;D


9 posted on 02/15/2005 10:21:42 AM PST by ECM
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To: dandelion

Sorry, no link. Apologies for the dupe post.


10 posted on 02/15/2005 10:22:10 AM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (You get more with a gun and a smile than just a smile itself!)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

Stop the illegals from entering our country for a period of 1 week a year. There's your savings required to maintain roads and highways in America.


11 posted on 02/15/2005 10:22:47 AM PST by odoso (Millions for charity, but not one penny for tribute!)
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To: skip_intro
Call me stupid, but I thought a speedometer already did this.

Yes, but the government can't make you bring it in to read it.

12 posted on 02/15/2005 10:24:08 AM PST by Bahbah
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To: skip_intro

Yes, but a mere odometer would imply voluntary reporting > compliance and obviate the need for a new revenue-collection beaurocracy. Can't have that.


13 posted on 02/15/2005 10:24:19 AM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (You get more with a gun and a smile than just a smile itself!)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

The problem in California is not that there is enough gasoline taxes taken in. The problem in California is that gasoline taxes are rolled into the General Fund instead of a specific fund to be only used for road repairs. Because the gasoline taxes go into the General Fund, the politicians start using the money in the General Fund for their stupid socialist welfare projects.


14 posted on 02/15/2005 10:25:00 AM PST by Frohickey
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

This is just un-friggin-believable.

In Washington state, our car tabs used to be based on the value of our cars. I drove a BMW, but didn't need to drive much (I put 30k on it in six years) - I was paying $700-$800 a year to license my car. A liberal friend of ours who drives and economy car, and drives a LOT more than I do, sent me email opposing the initiative that lowered our car tabs. In his mind, I should have paid much more than him - even though I used the roads less - because I had a nice car.

I don't like this at all, and I can't imagine the rank-and-file hybrid-driving lefties are going to stand for this either. It doesn't hurt rich people enough.


15 posted on 02/15/2005 10:28:26 AM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (Humina, humina, humina...)
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To: RetiredArmy
BIG GOVERNMENT, BIG TAXING, BIG SPENDING, BIG BROTHER

All done by incrementalism by reasonable moderate citizens to their own children.

16 posted on 02/15/2005 10:28:53 AM PST by Navy Patriot (I'm gonna hear it for this.)
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To: RetiredArmy
Whoa!

All those caps made my ears bleed!

We know about the Dems, and their spin doctor Dean. We can stop them. VOTE. Tell others to vote and tell the who you are voting for and why. Don't waste you breath on hard core Libs, they will vote for satan if he ran as a democrat. (really, I have had two people tell me this, one flashed his DNC card as he did)

Push for voting reform so the dead and other can not vote let alone vote twice.

We can not become Canada.
17 posted on 02/15/2005 10:31:46 AM PST by WakeUpAndVote (Got it Bad, Got it Bad, Got it Bad, I'm hot for Teacher! (and she's hot for me too))
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To: Bahbah

Inspection Sticker Time.


18 posted on 02/15/2005 10:32:46 AM PST by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: Bahbah

Inspection Sticker Time.


19 posted on 02/15/2005 10:34:28 AM PST by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: American Vet Repairman
First these idiots bitch when you use gas, and then bitch when you don't pay the taxes since you are not using gas

Imagine what would happen if the War On Smoking succeeded. Some states would have to declare bankruptcy!

20 posted on 02/15/2005 10:35:06 AM PST by freedumb2003 (We will win with the Sword Of Teamwork and the Hammer Of Not-bickering!)
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