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America's Most Dangerous Gang - MS13 - Violent, Vicious, and Spreading Fast.
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Posted on 02/20/2005 10:53:56 AM PST by Happy2BMe

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Spreading from El Salvador to L.A. and across the United States, Mara Salvatrucha 13 is increasingly well organized and deadly.

1 posted on 02/20/2005 10:53:57 AM PST by Happy2BMe
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To: Happy2BMe; EdReform; Thinkin' Gal; mrflashrifle; dennisw; SJackson; MeekOneGOP; TrueBeliever9; ...

Just what we need!


2 posted on 02/20/2005 10:57:18 AM PST by SheLion (The America we once knew and loved ........................is gone.)
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To: Happy2BMe

long island has MS13 all over the place. bad stuff.


3 posted on 02/20/2005 10:57:48 AM PST by oceanview
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To: Happy2BMe

Hempstead MS-13 bump


4 posted on 02/20/2005 10:58:14 AM PST by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: dennisw; SJackson; MeekOneGOP; TrueBeliever9; Geist Krieger; JohnHuang2; Salem; Sanch; ...
M13 SPREADING FAST - ping.

(M13 is reported to be welcoming Islamic jihad into their ranks as well.)

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With the number of MS-13 members growing nationwide (some cliques now evenaccept non-Hispanic members), and the violence escalating, the future for law enforcement appears grim.

5 posted on 02/20/2005 10:58:40 AM PST by Happy2BMe (Long ago and far, far away there once was a shining land they called "America" . . .)
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To: cyborg

and the Nassau County police maintains their main focus as traffic enforcement and giving out tickets for talking on cell phones while driving. I hardly ever go to Roosevelt Field anymore, especially on evenings and weekends - it looks like a scene out of the movie Colors.


6 posted on 02/20/2005 11:01:13 AM PST by oceanview
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To: Happy2BMe

This needs the old west treatment. Declare all members outlaws who may be killed on sight. No rewards, but no punishment.


7 posted on 02/20/2005 11:02:24 AM PST by LibKill (Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.)
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To: LibKill

I like the quote from on of the "Naked Gun" movies. In the background of the police station you can hear a cop on the phone saying "No sir, in this state killing a gang member is only a $10 fine. You can mail it in."


8 posted on 02/20/2005 11:05:09 AM PST by armyman (I'm may not agree with what you say, but I will sacrifice everything to defend your right to say it.)
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To: oceanview

I don't like the crowds there. I go to Fortunoff Mall or a small store. Roosevelt Field is expensive and overrated to me. When I was the fire department, all the MS-13 action was pretty much at night because most worked during the day. Unless the politicians stop kissing ass, this problem is only going to get worse. No one cared about it before, but now that they're way out in suburbia, I suppose it's now important.


9 posted on 02/20/2005 11:06:24 AM PST by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: Happy2BMe

Just one of the many reasons we have the 2nd Amendment. We can fire back at lowlifes like this.


10 posted on 02/20/2005 11:08:14 AM PST by Paul_Denton (The UN is UN-American! Get the UN out of the US and US out of the UN!)
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To: Happy2BMe

bttt


11 posted on 02/20/2005 11:08:37 AM PST by aberaussie
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To: Fritz

ping


12 posted on 02/20/2005 11:13:27 AM PST by investigateworld (Another California Refugee in Oregon)
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Click to see other threads related to illegal aliens in America
Click to FR-mail me for addition or removal

What's that saying? "Committing the crimes that real Americans won't commit?"

13 posted on 02/20/2005 11:13:37 AM PST by HiJinx (www .ProudPatriots.org ~ Operation Easter/Passover ~ February 15 - March 4, 2005)
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To: Happy2BMe

< /sarcasm>

14 posted on 02/20/2005 11:15:35 AM PST by Joe 6-pack ("It takes a big man to cry, but it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man.")
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To: LibKill

agreed: that is the only technique with a high probability of rapid success.


15 posted on 02/20/2005 11:15:44 AM PST by King Prout (Remember John Adam!)
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To: LibKill

I'm all for fighting the WoT, and all that. But these gangs are terrorists too, and we need to fight them with all the vigor that we fight Al-Qaeda with.


16 posted on 02/20/2005 11:18:25 AM PST by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: Happy2BMe
Round them up then drop them all from a C-130 over El Salvador at elevation.

Every last one of them.

17 posted on 02/20/2005 11:22:30 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: dfwgator
But these gangs are terrorists too, and we need to fight them with all the vigor that we fight Al-Qaeda with.

From your mouth to God's ear. I hope He is listening.

18 posted on 02/20/2005 11:22:31 AM PST by LibKill (Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.)
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To: Happy2BMe
These gangs are only killing the people the former U.S. gangs wouldn't. Someone's got to do the work. They pay taxes. Their children deserve to go to our schools. It's not unfair for you to pay for their healthcare.

Come on fella, get off it! Give these Mara Slavatrucha 13 members a hand up. You'll feel ever so much better.

It's truly creepy what passes for logic, when it comes to people who claim to be conservatives these days.

19 posted on 02/20/2005 11:25:36 AM PST by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: Happy2BMe
So what is "right-wing" about the Maldin Institute? That they believe in preserving the integrity of our borders and our civil society? That's right-wing?

Does that mean the "left-wing" is incapable of judging others for the threats that they may bestow upon us?
20 posted on 02/20/2005 11:28:46 AM PST by LA Conservative (Peace Kills)
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To: Happy2BMe

There will come a day when such scum come to lear the true meaning of why people of Western European linage are oft known as the "Ice People." When finally aroused, they can become the most cold blooded killers on earth.


21 posted on 02/20/2005 11:29:23 AM PST by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: SheLion

The boy who had his hands cut off lived near us.
Today our tires were stolen. It is the second time our car was vandalized in a few months. The police just left after taking a report.



22 posted on 02/20/2005 11:30:33 AM PST by Snapple
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To: Happy2BMe

Viva la Raza! Isn't diversity and multi-culturalism wonderful?


23 posted on 02/20/2005 11:32:03 AM PST by JarheadFromFlorida (Ooorahhhh........Get Some! Semper Fi')
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To: Paul_Denton
Hey. What's the big deal?

If one is a privileged exec from the ruling classes who, with his family, lives in a gated community, policed 24/7, or is a high and mighty politician that can afford to be secure with federal protection, live behind the White House walls, or otherwise be insulated from this situation, it isn't a "problem". To recognize it as a problem as a member of the Democrat and Republic Political Establishment, then makes one a sham and a failure if one in the past or present promoted or promotes a) open borders and b) that all 'immigrants' to the USA are just WONDERFUL! ......... /sarcasm

24 posted on 02/20/2005 11:32:12 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Illegal Aliens "Those Wonderful People" in Jail Now Are $1.4 Billion A Year For California Taxpayers)
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To: DoughtyOne

You are a disgusting nazi.

The boy who had his hands cut off lived near me. He attended Catholic school.


25 posted on 02/20/2005 11:32:26 AM PST by Snapple
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To: Paul_Denton
"Just one of the many reasons we have the 2nd Amendment."

And in here in my state of Missouri we have:

Missouri Constitution

Bill of Rights, Article I, Section 23

”That the right of every citizen to keep and bear arms for the defense of >his home, person, or property, or when lawfully summoned in the aid of the >civil power, shall not be questioned; but this shall not justify the >wearing of concealed weapons.”

Califronia and New York do not have unambiguous right to "bear arms" statements in their constitutions, like Missouri.

That in effect leaves there citizenry defenseless and easy prey.

Those Salavadorans are not as dumb as they look.

26 posted on 02/20/2005 11:33:06 AM PST by tahiti
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To: DoughtyOne

Ooops! Sorry. my comment was meant for the person you responded to. Usually I am not calling names.

Sorry. The police just left my house after taking a report on our stolen tires. It is the second time our car was vandalized in a few months.

These N. VA gangs are bad. They cut this young boy's hands off. They kill people about nothing.


27 posted on 02/20/2005 11:35:20 AM PST by Snapple
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To: Paul_Denton
Just one of the many reasons we have the 2nd Amendment. We can fire back at lowlifes like this.

There is no 2nd ammendment in NY and CA.

Only criminals, cops, and the rich have guns.

28 posted on 02/20/2005 11:36:27 AM PST by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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Thanks for clearing that one up and fixing it!

I(As you know) "Doughty One" is ANYTHING but a 'nazi'. Ooops! :-)

29 posted on 02/20/2005 11:37:20 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Illegal Aliens "Those Wonderful People" in Jail Now Are $1.4 Billion A Year For California Taxpayers)
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To: Snapple

This gang should not be here. You know it. I know it. Everyone knows it. Who do you insult? The person who has been saying so for around two decades.

If people claiming to be conservatives continue to allow people to flood across our borders, that are going to do things like this, please don't come to me to point the finger.

If you don't want our borders brought under control, then look in the fricken mirror.

NAZI? By your logic, a person who wants our borders brought under control so things like this don't happen, is a NAZI.

WOW!


30 posted on 02/20/2005 11:38:39 AM PST by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: Happy2BMe

Close the Damn borders, enough already!


31 posted on 02/20/2005 11:39:00 AM PST by Die_Hard Conservative Lady (I have left this blank for a reason....)
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To: cyborg

long island is going to be affected by some "shocking" crime committed by this ilk one day real soon. everybody here thinks they are living in shangri-la, they don't even know what is going on around them.


32 posted on 02/20/2005 11:39:16 AM PST by oceanview
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To: Snapple
And your local police, backed up by liberal politicians (I'll bet) in your community for example, cover for them, such as when a person is arrested or the story is talked about in the press, you'll hear things like "Salvadorean", "car load of five youths", "machete attack" and yet they have the NERVE to deny it has gang implications or MS-Mara connections (politically correct).

All the while, local Hispanic papers will say in Spanish that such an attack was clearly by "pandillas" (gangs). What's wrong with this picture??

33 posted on 02/20/2005 11:40:37 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Illegal Aliens "Those Wonderful People" in Jail Now Are $1.4 Billion A Year For California Taxpayers)
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To: Snapple

Please accept my appology for responding to what I thought was a post to me. Thanks for the additional post of explanation.


34 posted on 02/20/2005 11:41:24 AM PST by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Did you say they are killing people who deserve it? The teenager who goes to Catholic school and lives near me, did he deserve to have his hands cut off?

I know chidren who knew him.


35 posted on 02/20/2005 11:41:28 AM PST by Snapple
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To: Happy2BMe

How long before the REAL mob in New York shuts down their competition?

I don't think the Gambinos, Colombos, Genoveses, etc. will stand for this very long...do you?


36 posted on 02/20/2005 11:41:36 AM PST by Chef Dajuan (this ain't rocket science, you know. so use your knob! -emeril lagasse)
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To: Chef Dajuan

Crap, they might JOIN WITH THEM.


37 posted on 02/20/2005 11:43:20 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Illegal Aliens "Those Wonderful People" in Jail Now Are $1.4 Billion A Year For California Taxpayers)
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To: Happy2BMe; HiJinx

Thanks for the ping HiJinx.

My Samoan side of the family has lost 4 boys to gangs. The last one was lost about 5 years ago. It's a very sad tale of what happens to young folks that have no guidance.

Add into the mix illegals and we're beyond a disaster.

Hollywood glorifies gangsters of old, but they fail to see what it has done to many families. I have no respect for any of these gangs whether they be Italian, Asian, Polynesian, Latino, Russian, or Black. They all suck!

Continued prayers for our country. We need it more than ever.



38 posted on 02/20/2005 11:44:39 AM PST by MoJo2001 (Operation Easter/Passover For Our Troops begins Feb.14th-Mar.4th---www.proudpatriots.org)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

I live in N. VA. The police are all over this. It is in the papers. They are warning us and telling us about the grafeeti and what to watch for.

They are calling them their name. Nobody is hiding anything. Fairfax County Police/Alexandria give talks about it. There are special units for these gangs.


39 posted on 02/20/2005 11:44:39 AM PST by Snapple
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To: Happy2BMe

The word 'Extermination' comes to mind when dealing with these people.


40 posted on 02/20/2005 11:45:01 AM PST by 82Marine89 (U.S. Marines- Part of the Navy....The men's department.)
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To: Happy2BMe

BUMP to read later!


41 posted on 02/20/2005 11:45:12 AM PST by jellybean (Yullah imshe!! -- Let's Roll!)
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To: Mr. Mojo

"It's Raining Men!!"


42 posted on 02/20/2005 11:46:02 AM PST by HiJinx (www .ProudPatriots.org ~ Operation Easter/Passover ~ February 15 - March 4, 2005)
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To: Snapple

Snapple, my comments were a parody. The italicized words were a play on the nonsensical logic that seeks to excuse the entry of people into this nation, that don't belong here.

Does anyone deserve to die or be mutiliated by anyone else, gangs or not? Of course not. Need you ask me that question?

Later...


43 posted on 02/20/2005 11:47:13 AM PST by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: Snapple
I see.

Therefore, they must be successful.

Accordingly, I would imagine the the mara gang membership numbers and membership is decreasing? Congratulations.

44 posted on 02/20/2005 11:47:33 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Illegal Aliens "Those Wonderful People" in Jail Now Are $1.4 Billion A Year For California Taxpayers)
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To: Chef Dajuan
Ha Ha!, they wimped out a long time ago. The 'old time mobs' are now into insurance fraud, garbage hauling and shakedowns of legit business. These punks are now an annoyance to them. But the punks won't challenge the old time mobs. By their nature, they'll focus on other weaker types like other illegals.
45 posted on 02/20/2005 11:47:36 AM PST by investigateworld (Another California Refugee in Oregon)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Nah, the Mafia is still traditional. They won't join with non-Sicilians and seldom associate with non-Italians. They only work with the Jews...or as the late Meyer Lansky once said...the "Kosher" Nostra.

I grew up in Cleveland, and they could have teamed up with the Irish there and made a killing. Instead they blew up Danny Green in his new Buick.........

Big Al HATED the Irish and Polish gangs in Chicago, too. Look what he did to O'Bannion, Weiss, and Moran.


46 posted on 02/20/2005 11:48:54 AM PST by Chef Dajuan (this ain't rocket science, you know. so use your knob! -emeril lagasse)
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To: DoughtyOne

I guess I was upset by just giving a police report about the car being vandalized again.

A lot of student knew the boy who had his hands cut off.

I didn't have my sense of humor. Sometimes people do say those things and aren't kidding.


47 posted on 02/20/2005 11:49:05 AM PST by Snapple
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To: AmericanInTokyo

that's exactly the way its played in Nassau County.


48 posted on 02/20/2005 11:50:10 AM PST by oceanview
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To: AmericanInTokyo

This is bone-chilling... very scary stuff.


49 posted on 02/20/2005 11:50:11 AM PST by katiedidit1
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To: Chef Dajuan

Well then, (as certain US federal agencies might be inclined to do), let's get them aboard and with the "program"! :-)


50 posted on 02/20/2005 11:50:14 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Illegal Aliens "Those Wonderful People" in Jail Now Are $1.4 Billion A Year For California Taxpayers)
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