Posted on 02/21/2005 5:04:52 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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It is alleged that, last November, during a shooting incident by a son of Jang Sung-taek, who is Kim Jong-il's brother-in-law, Kim knocked unconscious.
A source who used to be in N. Korean intelligence said on Feb. 14 that this story is making a round among high-level N. Korean security officials. According to this intelligence, between the night of Nov. 28 and the early morning of Nov. 29, there was a family gathering including Kim Jong-il, his second son Kim Jong-chol, Jang Sung-taek's son(Jang is Kim's brother-in-law), during which shots were fired, and fights erupted. In the midst of this chaos, Kim Jong-il also knocked unconscious.
The source said that Jang's son fired at Kim Jong-il, and Kim Jong-chol took him on physically. In the process, Kim Jong-il was either grazed (by a bullet) or shocked at the shooting, which led to his loss of consciousness, it is suspected. This story must have come from agents guarding him at the time.
Jang's son was sacked when his father, who was the First Vice Director of Organization Guidance Dept. of Worker's Party, was purged last spring. However, somehow he was attending the family gathering last November. He was a high ranking official at Party's Central Committee before his sacking. After that, he was said to be a high-level official at Party Committee of N. Hamgyong Province. However, some believes that he was actually a high ranking officer at the Bureau of Guards.
Kim Jong-il's sister, Kim Kyong-hee(Jang's wife), petitioned Kim Jong-il twice for leniency ( for her husband) after Jang was purged. However, both petitions were turned down. She has been in seclusion since. Until early last year, experts (on N. Korea) regarded Jang as the prime candidate to succeed Kim Jong-il after his death.
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Every damn person in the story is named Kim, including the sister and the author.
Thanks for taking the time to put this up for us.
I be still around I can't wait for the ending of this soap opera it is soap opera
Days of Little Kim lives LOL!
Count me as a volunteer for the next extermination mission. I'm 53 and flabby, but some things are just more important than life.
What a crock, worse than the knife-collector at a Mexican wedding.
I think junior Jang wanted to pop the giant pinata(Kim Jong-il) with bullets.:)
I always enjoy reading your posts. Sorry you got so many obnoxious jokes (that really aren't funny). We don't hear much about Asia over here, even when big things are going on, so your on-the-spot reports are great (are you in South Korea? Or somewhere else in Asia?)
Dang, I want that job!!!
Poor Dear Leader. :(
You know what I wonder what would happen if he did kill Little Kim
That be fun to watch who would take over from Little Kim I think there going be family fight between all relatives how many time Little Kim been marry
Then Little Kim has brother and sisters so that going be fun to watch I THINK
Better that Kim Jong Il stay around for now, the enemy nutcase we know is better than one we don't... If nothing else, he's not irrational. He wouldn't thrust into S. Korea unless he thought he could win quickly. And by moving the bulk of the U.S. forces to the south (not to abandon the DMZ but to ensure our forces survive an NK first strike), he knows he would have a long bloody fight if he tried anything..
In any event, for such purposes, better he remain in power for now...
You know (FR) jokes are fine, in moderation I suppose, but not when they hijack a very serious thread that a Freeper put out initially to engage in meaningful discussion...and following his or her own efforts, such as translating a foreign article for free (yes, it is a service that usually carries a cost) something so the rest of us here Freepers could enjoy in English...such as TLR did.
Very glad JenB that you are one of the Freepers on this thread trying to turn it around since yesterday, so we can all get something out of it re: North Korea, rather than the usual, VERY TIRING jokes about Asian last names...and the one-dimension, cartoon character, juvenile analysis of a dangerous dictator who has nuclear weapons, (which I can assure you is NO JOKE to the hundreds of thousands of S. Koreans, Japanese and Americans within his missiles' range)....like such jokes really anything to do with the great work and a Freeper's selfless scholarship for the benefit of us all! Thanks again!!
Well, I don't really have anything meaningful to contribute to the conversation, since everything I know about North Korea, I learn from informative Freeper sources. But it seems like a situation that we ought to learn about instead of hijacking the thread for really lame jokes based on a cultural difference. I imagine English names sound pretty stupid to people who speak Korean, after all.
I don't think Kim Jong-Il is funny, either. Dangerous is more like it. But then there were people who thought Hitler was 'funny', too, before they figured out how much trouble he was going to cause.
"North Korea Must Discuss 'Conditions' in Six-Party Talks Kim Jong-il Willing to Return to Talks 'Anytime' Kim Jong-il's Remarks 'Positive': FM Ban North Korean leader Kim Jong-il has indicated he is willing to return to six-party talks on his country's nuclear program - if the conditions are "mature." Meeting with Wang Jiarui, the head of international liaisons of China's Communist Party who was visiting Pyongyang on Monday, Kim said, "If the conditions for the six-party talks mature through the joint efforts of our neighbors, we're ready to return to the negotiation table at any time," North Korea's official Korea Central News Agency reported. Kim expressed hope that the "United States shows its sincerity about the talks and backs it up with actions," adding, "We are committed to the denuclearization of the Korean peninsula, and there is no change in our stance to resolve the issue peacefully through dialogue." How are we to take these remarks? The optimistic view is that they mean Pyongyang's imminent return to the talks; others say nothing has changed from the North Korean Foreign Ministry's Feb. 10 statement that it is indefinitely boycotting negotiations. It is meanwhile quite incomprehensible how Kim squares his "commitment" to denuclearization with Pyongyang's announcement that it already has atomic weapons. Whether North Korea returns to the talks soon, as the international community demands, depends on what Kim means by "mature conditions." It is because North Korea and the other parties to the talks have failed to agree "conditions" that the six-country talks stalled in June last year, and that the North announced its boycott. Of course, other parties to the talks should alter the conditions if that is what it takes for talks to resume. Self-restraint in hostile remarks about the North, for example, would help Pyongyang make up its mind to come back to the negotiating table. But North Korea will have to accept the basic demands, that it must stop and renounce its nuclear development programs in return for compensation. These demands are based on the complicated international reality. If the North still wants to change the conditions, it can only do so at the six-party talks. They were after all set up for the purpose of coming to an agreement. "
And the reason for that is there are a number of Freepers who are researching, translating, giving insight...all kinds of stuff we are NOT going to get from CNN, or even Fox TV about this far away, dangerous, yet central problem to the US and the World.... I am glad you agree that, well, maybe a continuous 24 FR humor thread on Kim Jong il could be set up elsewhere (to satisfy our appetite for humor), kind of like "A Day in the Life" or "Freeper Worldwide Terrorist Threat Report". Folks could go on and on and on and on all day about funny Asian last names over there, and post fun stuff, graphic comics, manga, whatever (fine with me). And then, on the other hand, perhaps we could have these individual threads that are based on the hard work and scholarship of people like TigerLikesRooster, to try to come up with ideas and ascertain the truth re: North Korea, and educate newcomers in the process. Everyone is welcomed to these threads, in order to learn and grow in knowledge.
I agree with you American I getting in more learning about psyce of North Korea and Dear Leader Little Kim
I can't wait what going what happen NEXT it like Soap opera over there with Little Kim family
Car accidents
Mistress dying
Man this better than Dallas back in 1980s
More has been happening in North Korea in the last 1 year, IMHO, then in any five year period in the 1970s or 1980s. Indeed more will happen. Thanks for contributing as usual.
I think it is human nature to make irreverent jokes about serious matters - at least that is the culture in America. If something terrible happened to lil' Kim, we would have to revert to Ted Kennedy for comic relief.
MATT DAY-MON!
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