N.J. Teacher Charged with Sexaul Assault (Here we go again)

WPVI (ABC Philadelphia) ^ | 2/21/2005 | NORA MUCHANIC

[deepFR]

Thanks nopardons

[nopardons]

I'll explain it to you once more....the nic is NOPARDONS!

Where are the supposed "insults" that you accuse me of "tossing"?

You wrote about me,playing juvenile games with my nic and your didn't ping me.That's against FR rules,pet.

When you manage to grow up,follow FR's posting rules,and decide to answer questions asked of you....get back to me.

[nopardons]

:-)

[Cosmo]

I have not equated the two, but there is a parallel. Both teachers and priests are entrusted to look out for our children. they are both entrusted to teach our children. they are both entrusted to look out for the welfare of our children.

We have a similar trend of improper sexual conduct between people who are supposed to be looking out for our children in both the Catholic priesthoood and the public school system. You're trying to say it's different because of the kind of sex the respective groups were involved in, I'm saying it's a similar violation regardless of the particular sex act because both sets of instances involve a violation of trust. Sex is sex is sex. It matters little whether you find one sex act more perverted than another; what matters in this discussion is that adults entrusted wiith peoples' children had sex with their children. It sounds to me like it would be okay with you if a priest had sex with a 12 year old girl because they'd be having heterosexual sex..

the few times that sex abuse cases came up regardng the Catholic church was enough for the media to begin decrying the church as a whole, and thereby begin a long period of fomenting dissent in the ranks. I don't see such an outcry in this instance and there should be: the Public schools have been gettiing away with their own brand of corruption for too long. Now they've got teachers sleeping with students. Where's the outrage?

[ApplegateRanch]

Mike Riley/VICTIM'S ATTORNEY: "The young man is not in a position where he has the legal capacity to give legal consent.... The shock of this relationship being exposed, the intense news interest in the relationship, the fact that he obviously has feelings for this young lady.

That ain't no lady; that's just a cheap lay; a woman of no virtue.

He's 14 now, in early 2005; BUT she met him in 2003, and students were suspicious of them then.

Definitely a NABWLA (hypothetical NAMBLA's sister org) hall of famer.

[WindOracle]

A male teacher, at my high school, who was 26 messed around with a 16 year old student, consentually... it was well known that she DID approach him, one of those grades for sex things.

He not only lost his job as a teacher, he was stripped of his commission as an Officer, and discharged from the National Guard for it.

But that was back in 1980.

[nopardons]

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[nopardons]

And welcome to FR! :-)

[Odyssey-x]

To save everyone the trouble of posting, I will instead post a summary of typical posts on this subject to date:

Best post all week!

[Cosmo]

"What I disagree with you about is that you are equating this Catholic Priest Perversion with a Male to Female relationship"

-- what else am I to infer from this sentence other than the type of sex is what has you concerned? Andso what if "you said" it's illegal.it's illegal for an adult to have sex with a minor, and especially egregious an offense when this occurs in a situation in which the adult is supposed to be lookking out ffor the child's welfare. It's all illegal.: teacher/underage student, priest/underage boy, underage girl etc. etc..



Perhaps I should have phrased things differently (it's late) : (referring to your second paragraph, here) It only took a relatively few cases of perverted priests for the media to have an uproar. subsequently , after much investigation, other cases startedd to emerge. I did not mean to imply that these priests were not guilty. But, If the media were as outraged by this student/teacher problem (as I believe they should be, but understand why they aren't) , we'd see alot of cases come out of the woodwork. And I suspect they'd be as --if not more -- numerous as the pedophilic priest debacles.

[Cloud William]

Actually this case is no different than if it were a male teacher with a female student because both cases would involve an adult committing a crime against a child. If they find this female teacher guilty of this crime, I hope she is sentenced to at least 10 years in prison.

I know a guy who worked in corrections at state and federal levels for years. Back when the Deborah LaFave incident made the news, I talked to him about the ramifications of a young adult female doing prison time for statutory rape of a male student.

Just as I suspected, in the womens' correctional centers, there is no major stigma related to such a crime. Where a man incarcerated for such crimes against an underage female will be lucky to survive to see the outside world, for a woman it is viewed as no big deal, and in some cases women so convicted enjoy a bit of "celebrity". So much for the deterrance factor.

[Axenolith]

IMO, It's the older woman thing that started with American Pie.

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