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Churchill Art Piece Called Into Question
News4 Colorado ^ | 2/24/05 | Raj Chohan

Posted on 02/24/2005 10:19:19 PM PST by Fizzie

Churchill Art Piece Called Into Question

by CBS4 News reporter Raj Chohan

Feb 24, 2005 8:03 pm US/Mountain BOULDER, Colo. (CBS4) Boulder County resident Duke Prentup has been a fan of native American art for as long as he can remember. That love of art took him to the home of Ward Churchill in the early 1980's, where Prentup bought several pieces of Churchill's art, including a serigraph titled "Winter Attack."

"I have enjoyed them ever since immensely, they're obviously up inside my house," Prentup said.

Last month came a stunning revelation, though, as as Prentup flipped through a 1972 book called The Mystic Warriors of the Plains written and illustrated by the late artist Thomas E. Mails. He found a sketch that was strikingly similar to the Churchill piece.

(Excerpt) See the rest of the article, and photo comparisons of the 2 pieces of art here: http://news4colorado.com/topstories/local_story_055200531.html

(Excerpt) Read more at news4colorado.com ...


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To: RandallFlagg

Can you even believe this?

I'm just sitting here trying to figure out how this guy thought he'd get away with this.

Like I said up the thread, he's the Scott Peterson of academia.


221 posted on 02/25/2005 1:07:08 AM PST by Howlin (Free the Eason Jordan Tape!!!)
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To: Drango

Yo quierro Taco Bell?

I think he copied this from early, discarded "concept" drawings by Taco Bell's ad agency.

Maybe he'll soon be "making a run for the border".

222 posted on 02/25/2005 1:07:51 AM PST by ApplegateRanch (The world needs more horses, and fewer Jackasses!)
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To: ApplegateRanch

yeah,...back at #22 I said he'd be goin'


223 posted on 02/25/2005 1:10:21 AM PST by Dad yer funny
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To: Howlin
The "Original" purchaser on the Ebay auction states he bought the "art" directly from Churchill in 1980. By all accounts that is long before Al Gore invented the internet and long before Google.

Apparently Churchill believed research would always be a tedious, by-hand task.

224 posted on 02/25/2005 1:10:51 AM PST by Sgt_Schultze
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To: Howlin
We haven't proven any fraud with this particular image. Since the photo looks well over 100 years old, it's likely in the public domain. Now, if WC took an old non-copyrighted photograph and traced lines from it to make a stylized version that he sold as "art," he hasn't done anything wrong.

What we need to do to keep looking to see if some OTHER artist thought of doing this first and then WC copied the other artist's line drawing. Now THAT would be the smoking gun we'd need to find.

225 posted on 02/25/2005 1:10:55 AM PST by CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC (The heart of the wise man inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left. - Eccl. 10:2)
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To: deport; Miss Marple; cyncooper; MEG33; EllaMinnow; TexKat; AmericanMade1776; ...

You're gonna love this one.


226 posted on 02/25/2005 1:11:40 AM PST by Howlin (Free the Eason Jordan Tape!!!)
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To: Howlin

Oh, I'm loving it all. Yet another leftist is exposed as the loser he is.


227 posted on 02/25/2005 1:12:49 AM PST by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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To: CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC

Well it's not fraud and it's not a copyright violation but it's also NOT art. And it is unethical.


228 posted on 02/25/2005 1:13:16 AM PST by Drango (Freepmail me to get on/off the *NPR/PBS* ping list)
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To: RandallFlagg

This guy has lied about so much stuff, I'm beginning to wonder if he's really a guy.


229 posted on 02/25/2005 1:13:28 AM PST by Howlin (Free the Eason Jordan Tape!!!)
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To: Howlin
I emailed this info to News 4, Channel 7 and 9 News here in Denver so far: More Ward Churchill art fraud ---

Copyrighted version info:

http://www.grandfathersspirit.com/cards/111LittleBigMan.html

Little Big Man Sioux, Oglala Photographed by Charles M. Bell Copyright 1877

Oglala Sioux Warrior. A fearless and respected warrior who fought along side of Crazy Horse against Bear Coat Miles, Little Big Man opposed the treaty and the commission that wanted to take the Black Hills from the Sioux. He was later made into an agency policeman by the whiteman, and some think that he was partially responsible for the death of Crazy Horse.

http://www.texiancowboy.com/tcwe/deadwood.htm

Ogalalla Dakota Sioux

As a member of the Sioux tribe, Little Big Man battled against the “white” intruders during the late 19th century. In September 1875, during negotiations at Red Cloud Agency regarding the future ownership of the Black Hills, he led a mock charge at the white commissioners by a large group of warriors. Firing their guns and shouting ritual war chants, they badly scared everyone but did no physical damage. After the Wounded Knee massacre of his tribe, the Sioux were forced to surrender and remain on reservations. Little Big Man was later made an agency policeman. (Credit Photo: W.H. Jackson circa 1870’s)

http://www.texiancowboy.com/tcwe/images/KQ%20Postcards/92_lrg_vert.jpg

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Ward Churchill's version on E-Bay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=20148&item=7302524684&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

230 posted on 02/25/2005 1:14:41 AM PST by ajolympian2004
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To: ajolympian2004

Someone needs to save the ebay "art" to their hard drive. Not me:-) Night all.


231 posted on 02/25/2005 1:16:29 AM PST by Drango (Freepmail me to get on/off the *NPR/PBS* ping list)
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To: Drango

But now I see in post #213 - "Photographed by Charles M. Bell
Copyright 1877." Could it be that this image's copyright has been continuously renewed since 1877 and is therefore NOT in the pubic domain?


232 posted on 02/25/2005 1:16:34 AM PST by CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC (The heart of the wise man inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left. - Eccl. 10:2)
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To: Drango; Howlin
Another side by side comparison.

Ward Churchill is a fraud

233 posted on 02/25/2005 1:16:38 AM PST by Flyer (The contents of this information is for your exclusive use and should not be forum curran)
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To: Howlin

Go for it.

There are so many "styles" of art claimed by this fool, some art specialist can pick up even more!


234 posted on 02/25/2005 1:17:17 AM PST by MindBender26 (Having your own XM177 E2 means never having to say you are sorry......)
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To: Flyer

Look at the feathers and the detail there. It's an exact copy!


235 posted on 02/25/2005 1:18:00 AM PST by ajolympian2004
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To: CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC

Exactly. nothing wrong with pen-and-inking a public domain photo. Lots of artists do that. Reversing and copying a work by a modern artist is quite another matter.


236 posted on 02/25/2005 1:18:08 AM PST by JennysCool (I was so naive as a kid I used to sneak behind the barn and do nothing. -Johnny Carson)
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To: jonrick46

Nothing is strange anymore. I feel like I live in a parallel universe.


237 posted on 02/25/2005 1:24:06 AM PST by Howlin (Free the Eason Jordan Tape!!!)
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To: CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC
We haven't proven any fraud with this particular image.

It may may not be legal fraud, but it exposes the fraud that Ward Churchill is.

He sold this art as his original, as a Native American artist. Both lies.

238 posted on 02/25/2005 1:24:27 AM PST by Flyer (The contents of this information is for your exclusive use and should not be forum curran)
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To: Drango

I did.


239 posted on 02/25/2005 1:24:46 AM PST by Howlin (Free the Eason Jordan Tape!!!)
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To: CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC; Flyer
But he SIGNED IT!


240 posted on 02/25/2005 1:28:00 AM PST by Howlin (Free the Eason Jordan Tape!!!)
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