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The global warming scam
Asia Times ^ | 02.25.05 | Derek Kelly, PhD

Posted on 02/25/2005 12:02:42 AM PST by Dr. Marten

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To: Protagoras
So you are another cult member who says dinosaurs and Jesus were around at the same time?

I never said that. The dinosaurs you talk of were destroyed in the flood. That pesky little flood that killed every living thing. It lasted 40 days. But, since a day is only symbolic I wonder how long the flood really lasted? sarcasm off/

I don't pretend to believe. I do believe. God and man's observations don't have to be exclusive. But, if man's observations don't line up with what the Bible says than I go with God. I think that if you look, there are many Jewish and Christian scholars that believe creation happened just as the Bible says, and the world is only thousands of years old. Just because you can't wrap your mind around it doesn't mean it didn't happen or it isn't so. Why must men put a limit on God's power?

I am not going to debate this anymore, because it is obvious that you will not change my mind, and I will not change yours. First time I have been told I was in a cult, though. That is always fun.

But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise. 1 Corinthians 1:27
81 posted on 02/28/2005 5:12:45 AM PST by bizeemommie
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To: taxesareforever

By you response I thoght you were a member of a church even more whacked out than that cult. Although it would be hard to find one more whacked out.


82 posted on 02/28/2005 6:08:06 AM PST by Protagoras (" I believe that's the role of the federal government, to help people"...GWB, 7-23-04)
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To: taxesareforever

83 posted on 02/28/2005 6:19:46 AM PST by Protagoras (" I believe that's the role of the federal government, to help people"...GWB, 7-23-04)
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To: taxesareforever
I don't call it a cult, but I do call it Christianity.

Nothing in the Christian Bible speaks of the age of the earth. The Jewish Bible does, but not the Christian one. Do you eat pork? Do you carry out animal sacrifices on the alter?

84 posted on 02/28/2005 6:42:36 AM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: taxesareforever
Name a Christian group which says the earth is millions of years old.

I'm a Baptist and my church does not take a stand on the age of the earth. "Render unto Caesar those things that are Caesar's and render unto God those things that are God's." My church deals with the salvation of my soul, not scientific doctrine. That's for the scientists. My faith remains strong.

85 posted on 02/28/2005 6:45:58 AM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: bizeemommie
I believe the Bible to be the inerrant Word of God.

http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/donald_morgan/inconsistencies.shtml

Just a sampling:

NU 25:9 24,000 died in the plague.
1CO 10:8 23,000 died in the plague.

1KI 9:28 420 talents of gold were brought back from Ophir.
2CH 8:18 450 talents of gold were brought back from Ophir.

1KI 16:6-8 Baasha died in the 26th year of King Asa's reign.
2CH 16:1 Baasha built a city in the 36th year of King Asa's reign.

1CH 3:19 Pedaiah was the father of Zerubbabel.
ER 3:2 Shealtiel was the father of Zerubbabel.


86 posted on 02/28/2005 6:55:01 AM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Dr. Marten
The author has not read all of the circular reasoning from our global warming alarmists... global warming = ice age For a great example of this see the "well researched" enviro-epic "The Day after Tomorrow". There is no ground to stand on in this debate. Like John Kerry the leaders of this hoax have claimed proof from every possible direction.
87 posted on 02/28/2005 7:34:28 AM PST by hford02 (I have to rig my quota of black box voting machines for the 2006 midterms.)
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To: Protagoras

By you response I thoght you were a member of a church even more whacked out than that cult.

And what response would have led you to think that?


88 posted on 02/28/2005 12:35:58 PM PST by taxesareforever
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To: taxesareforever

89 posted on 02/28/2005 12:38:56 PM PST by Protagoras (" I believe that's the role of the federal government, to help people"...GWB, 7-23-04)
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To: FreedomCalls

Nothing in the Christian Bible speaks of the age of the earth. The Jewish Bible does, but not the Christian one. Do you eat pork? Do you carry out animal sacrifices on the alter?

Wow! Nothing like reinventing the Bible. If you were to study the Bible you would realize that Jesus Christ satisfied ALL the sacrifices in the Old Testament by this suffering and death.

Nothing in the Bible speaks of an unborn embryo either. So I guess you consider pro-choice a logical choice.


90 posted on 02/28/2005 12:41:19 PM PST by taxesareforever
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To: Fredgoblu
the temperature on our planet has an awful lot to do with that thing in the sky that we call the Sun!

Only surface temperature. Earth radiates more heat than it receives from the sun.

91 posted on 02/28/2005 12:41:26 PM PST by RightWhale (Please correct if cosmic balance requires.)
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To: taxesareforever
If you were to study the Bible you would realize that Jesus Christ satisfied ALL the sacrifices in the Old Testament by this suffering and death.

What does eating pork have to do with Jesus' sacrifice and death? Are you saying that because of his sacrifice we no longer have to worry about cleanliness and dietary laws? Do you follow the strictures of Leviticus or not? If it's the unerring mandated word or God, then why do you ignore His commands?

Nothing in the Bible speaks of an unborn embryo either.

Yes it does. Read Romans 13:9.

92 posted on 02/28/2005 4:23:05 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: FreedomCalls

What does eating pork have to do with Jesus' sacrifice and death? Are you saying that because of his sacrifice we no longer have to worry about cleanliness and dietary laws? Do you follow the strictures of Leviticus or not? If it's the unerring mandated word or God, then why do you ignore His commands?

Welcome to the real world. Do you really think that you are judged by Christ on cleanliness and dietary laws? If you do, you do not accept the belief that Christ's suffering and death was the cure for the law in the Old Testament. Check out Romans 10:4-13.

As for Romans 13:9 referring to an embryo,I did not see the word embryo there. Are you now basing the killing of an embryo by referring to another portion of Scripture which you have not provided? How unique. Scripture proving Scripture and not science proving Scripture.


93 posted on 02/28/2005 7:45:53 PM PST by taxesareforever
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To: farmfriend; calcowgirl; All

"Global Warming" -- MORE "PROOF" !!!

"A person in Sapporo stands beside a snow sculpture of Nagoya
Castle. Heavy snow since December has killed 61 people across
Japan, making it the deadliest winter in nearly two decades,
with most of the victims elderly people who slipped shoveling snow
off their roofs."
(AFP/File/Toru Yamanaka)

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/050228/photos_sc_afp/050228122655_1yvoinjm_photo0&e=8&ncid=1756

"...deadliest winter in nearly two decades." (!!!)

Note: Emphasis added, but no editing needed - the text is straight from Yahoo. (Click the link !!!)

   

94 posted on 02/28/2005 10:06:28 PM PST by Seadog Bytes ("The love of liberty is the love of others; the love of power is the love of ourselves."-Wm. Hazlitt)
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To: Seadog Bytes

If you look real hard you can see Al Gore looking out one of the windows.


95 posted on 03/01/2005 10:04:38 PM PST by taxesareforever
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Greenland Ice Cap Is Melting, Raising Sea Level
Source: The Associated Press
Published: Jul 20, 2000 - 04:05 PM Author: By Paul Recer
Posted on 07/20/2000 14:37:50 PDT by Ms. AntiFeminazi
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3977712e1941.htm


96 posted on 04/02/2006 1:43:39 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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oldies:

Global warming doubles rate of ocean rise
Eurek Alert | 11.24.05 | Carl Blesch
Posted on 12/31/2005 9:28:17 PM EST by Coleus
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1550023/posts


97 posted on 11/02/2006 5:50:34 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Dhimmicrati delenda est! https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Dr. Marten
It's nice to read a little common sense once in a while. I just wish the Lefties out there could stop the fear mongering and lies and actually look at all the science involved. Maybe listen to a few Climatologists.

They tell us Kyoto is the only way to save the planet. I don't understand how Western Countries continuing to pollute at their current rate, and paying "thrid world" countries, and china, billions of dollars to continue to pollute at their low rates, is going to help anything.

The reason the Environment issue is being forced down our throats at this time is because if we institute Kyoto now, when the cooling phase starts in 2012-2015 due to the reduction of sun spots, the lefties will claim they were right all along and Kyoto was the way to fix worlds problems. It will also be around the same time that China would be expected to join, but since things will be running so well at that point, I guarantee you china will be allowed to abstain for a further substantial amount of time.

I agree we have environment problems, but Kyoto, and the Global Warming proaganda is not going to help them. In Canada and the USA we need to clean up our water, clean up smog, and clean up other air pollution that is causing terrible asthama and allergies.
98 posted on 01/25/2007 11:17:44 AM PST by gralph17
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To: Protagoras
ok if the earth is only 10 thousand yrs old . please explain dinosaurs when there's evidence like plateosaurs 200million yrs ago ? just a question.
99 posted on 09/16/2007 11:42:19 AM PDT by djominous
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Well, call me a real cinic, but I dont believe ANYBODY, the author of this post of the scientists and environmentalists know anything at all..

I am a statistician, and unless you have a lot, and I mean a lot of data without any assumptions you cannot really prove anything.

The government is so keen to jump on this as its just a way of making more and more tax money. The most grating thing is that all of the “uneducated” people buy into this tosh and accept “green taxes” as a good thing. There are alternative fuels in abundance that produce less Co2 and are replenishable, however OPEC buy all the patents to prevent new entrants into their market so they can price fix oil even more.

My global warming prediction is as follows:

Tax on fuel goes to $8 (£4) per litre within 10 years on the back of oil shortages and green tax.
A new replenishable fuel will be brought out as people get past breaking point, this fuel will be taxed at $6 (£3) per litre and we will all gobble it up as its so much cheaper. But in the end the goverments and OPEC will rake the money in. Its got nothing whatsoever to do with climate.

If it was really that big a problem, do you not think embargo’s would be placed on Chinese and Indian products unless they reduce their Co2 output.

didnt I hear that Cows make more tonnage of Co2 than motors cars in the UK ? and we have a very small agriculture industry too !!!


100 posted on 10/07/2007 11:11:56 AM PDT by Skeete
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