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BTK Suspect Charged With 10 Murder Counts
Yahoo! News (AP) ^ | 3/1/2005 | David Twiddy

Posted on 03/01/2005 12:09:22 PM PST by Pyro7480

BTK Suspect Charged With 10 Murder Counts

By DAVID TWIDDY, Associated Press Writer

WICHITA, Kan. - Dennis Rader, the churchgoing family man and Cub Scout leader accused of leading a double life as the BTK serial killer, was charged Tuesday with 10 counts of first-degree murder.

Rader made his first court appearance since his Friday arrest by videoconference from his cell at the Sedgwick County detention center. During the brief hearing, Rader sat with his hands folded behind a small desk.

The BTK killer, whose nickname stands for "Bind, Torture, Kill," was suspected of eight deaths beginning in 1974, but authorities said Saturday they had linked two additional victims to the serial killer.

Rader's arrest has also prompted nearby law enforcement agencies through Kansas to reinvestigate any cold cases that bear similarities to the string of slayings.

Sedgwick County District Judge Greg Waller read the charges during the hearing, which lasted about five minutes. A preliminary hearing was set for March 15, when Rader is likely to be arraigned.

Rader's only comments during the hearing were short "yes" and "no" answers to questions.

He was accompanied at the hearing by a temporary attorney. Waller appointed the state's public defender office to represent Rader.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Kansas
KEYWORDS: bind; btk; dennisrader; kansas; kill; murder; rader; torture; wichita
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To: Beowulf9

In Indiana she could get a divorce in a couple of months....Possibly right after he is arraigned....SHe'd keep at least 50% of everything they accumulated together including his pension (which he'd have no need for now)
A lenient judge could give her more.....Any one know the laws there?


41 posted on 03/01/2005 6:22:52 PM PST by hoosiermama (Karnakism: When a freeper posts the answer to your question, while you are typing the question)
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To: hoosiermama

Imagine being put in the position of facing the fact your husbands a brutal killer and the need to divorce him immediately to keep from financial ruin. His last victims are his family.


42 posted on 03/01/2005 6:27:54 PM PST by Beowulf9
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To: Beowulf9
Am still wondering what his relationship was like with them. He was a control freak! That set him up as an possible abuser (at least emotionally) to his family. They will no doubt need some good counseling. First to help them deal with the shock of jerking them out of denial, and later to understand how he was able to manipulate and control their family structure.

Prayers for all of them. His family was truly victimized....But I'd argue they were his first not last victims.
43 posted on 03/01/2005 7:57:19 PM PST by hoosiermama (Karnakism: When a freeper posts the answer to your question, while you are typing the question)
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To: elbucko

"If he stopped prior to '94, it would be interesting to learn the reason."

Well, he started the killing in 1974, and the death penalty had been in effect here in Kansas until 1972. Do the math.


44 posted on 03/01/2005 9:51:25 PM PST by mjaneangels@aolcom
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To: The G Man

"Thats all any of us have is hindsight though."

Some of us were here in Wichita in the 1970s and are still here today. There is a lot that was learned then that has not been brought out lately. Much of it is the reason that BTK killings are described as terrorizing Wichita throughout the 70s.


45 posted on 03/01/2005 9:56:19 PM PST by mjaneangels@aolcom
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To: Theo

"Can anyone show me the evidence against this man before we too-hastily judge him guilty?"

Good question. The evidence will come out at the trial. I do not really know of any evidence other than reports, and I do not know how accurate they are.

Wait and watch for the evidence at the trial.


46 posted on 03/01/2005 10:07:47 PM PST by mjaneangels@aolcom
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
I think "profiling" is a crock.....

you and I and everybody with at least a HS education could figure most of this stuff out....

a profiler is like a bureaucrat....always looking to make himself more needed than what is really necessary....

and , they have been more often wrong that right, it seems....

we all remember the DC sniper situation, where no profiler ever came even close to who the sniper was, let alone, two of them.....

47 posted on 03/01/2005 10:17:02 PM PST by cherry
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To: The G Man
I read on Kansas.com that apparently some expert from Canada reviewed the BTK murders some time ago, and pointed at Dennis Rader as their guy......this is all second hand info but the poster seemed to be reliable....

police depts do a bad job of critiquing their work, though....

48 posted on 03/01/2005 10:19:46 PM PST by cherry
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To: hershey

"He abused that entire neighborhood."

That is not the whole situation. Many he did abuse, but many others thought well of him, including my sister and a friend of mine.

In the 70s when BTK was a household word here in Wichita, he was thought to probably be "the person that you would lease suspect". And yet, this was a brutal killer. I do not know him or his victims. I do remember that the evidence that was reported back then was like hot and cold. Almost like 2 completely different human beings. He really liked to taunt police and the media, but did a very good job of muddying the field of possible suspects by knowing what and when to clean up after himself. I think the only thing that will really get him will be DNA because he could not know what the future would bring in terms of technology. Maybe computer data bases also.


49 posted on 03/01/2005 10:24:55 PM PST by mjaneangels@aolcom
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To: feedback doctor
Am I the only one who sees a resemblance between this guy and George Costanza?

Gee, thanks a lot!

50 posted on 03/02/2005 1:47:17 AM PST by George Costanza
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
I hope this guy leads law enforcement to reevaluate their profiling.

Profiling seems to be worthless. It can send them in the wrong direction. I've followed this case rather closely as my daughter lives in Wichita. She's actually very close to where he lived. Yesterday she said she could see smoke coming from ditches. Evidently they're burning off brush in ditches where they think there may be more evidence.

About a month ago, I told my daughter that I thought those "clues" were not clues at all--that they were deliberately attempts by BTK to see how long he could fool them.

I think perhaps I was right as I haven't seen that those "clues" helped at all. In the end, it was his own sloppiness that did him in.

51 posted on 03/02/2005 3:57:52 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
***I hope this guy leads law enforcement to reevaluate their profiling***

No Kidding.
Granted I'm not an 'accredited' FBI profiler, BUT this "Middle aged white guy, loner, working a menial job" stuff was always utter bull baloney IMO. Mainly because that 'profile' fit about 97 gazillion people.

And I wonder if 'they' added an addendum to their 'profile standards ' after the DC Sniper??? Nah..... that would be racial and 'religious' profiling (barf).

52 posted on 03/02/2005 5:43:23 AM PST by Condor51 (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Gen G Patton)
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To: purpleland
Why don't young people understand the legal concept "presumption of innocence"?

While I'm not *legally* required to presume innocence, it's my preference.

Too many times people's emotions get so caught up in the hideousness of the crime itself, and *need* someone on whom to place their disgust and hatred. I've known several people falsely accused of crimes, and have learned to give the benefit of the doubt until they're proven guilty.

But like I said, if what is said about this man is true, the evidence against him is pretty strong.

53 posted on 03/02/2005 6:35:27 AM PST by Theo
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To: Theo

"Why don't young people understand the legal concept 'presumption of innocence'?"

While I'm not *legally* required to presume innocence, it's my preference.

Too many times people's emotions get so caught up in the hideousness of the crime itself, and *need* someone on whom to place their disgust and hatred. I've known several people falsely accused of crimes, and have learned to give the benefit of the doubt until they're proven guilty.

But like I said, if what is said about this man is true, the evidence against him is pretty strong.

*Your stance is well taken. I try to maintain an objective distance from snap judgement. I've followed the BTK case on a net site dedicated to BTK's capture. The site published a profile of BTK, before Rader's arrest, that is fairly close to Rader, the suspect. http://www.catchbtk.com


54 posted on 03/02/2005 8:28:21 AM PST by purpleland (The price of freedom is vigilance.)
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To: mjaneangels@aolcom
and the death penalty had been in effect here in Kansas until 1972. Do the math.

I did. Rader could be the poster boy for the deterrence element of the death penalty.

55 posted on 03/02/2005 8:49:26 AM PST by elbucko (Feral Republican)
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To: Theo

He already confessed. In addition, items belonging to the victims were found on his property or in his possession, I don't recall which. Apparently, they have DNA matches with him, too.


56 posted on 03/02/2005 8:51:29 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: D-fendr

Excellent point.


57 posted on 03/02/2005 8:57:52 AM PST by yellowdoghunter (Liberals should be seen and not heard.)
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah

I've always said that criminal profiling is a very inexact science, as are all the social sciences. There is such a wide variance from the norm in all areas of human behavior. No criminal investigative team should put all of their eggs in the basket of psychological profiling. It is voo-doo science.


58 posted on 03/02/2005 9:38:22 AM PST by Palladin (Proud to be a FReeper!)
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To: kenth

John Wayne Gacy too


59 posted on 03/02/2005 12:17:13 PM PST by free_european
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To: elbucko
If he stopped prior to '94, it would be interesting to learn the reason.

Maybe he could not be certain whether or not his potential victims had cellphones.

He liked to cut telephone lines to houses to make it impossible for his victims to call for help. Cellphones would wreck that routine.

60 posted on 03/02/2005 12:39:34 PM PST by syriacus (Was Margaret Hassan kidnapped because she knew the Oil for Food program failed to aid Iraqis?)
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