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Italian COMMUNIST PARTY Starts FullCourt Press Against USA on Italian Hostage Shooting By US Troops
AGI (News Service) Italy (in English) ^ | 5 March 2005 | AGI News Service, Italy

Posted on 03/05/2005 7:06:16 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo

SLAIN AGENT: I DON'T BELIEVE U.S. VERSION-COMMUNIST LEADER (AGI) - Rome, Italy, March 5 - "A day that was supposed to be happy changed into pain and anger. I don't believe a word of the American version. It's clear that they are trying to hide what really happened. The Americans deliberately shot at the Italians. It's huge," said the secretary of the Italian Communist Party, Oliviero Diliberto, commenting on what took place after the liberation of the journalist Giuliana Sgrena. Diliberto said that "the entire centre left (in Italy) should ask the withdrawal of our troops in Parliament. Enough with this servitude towards the United States." (AGI) - 051409 MAR 05


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: agenda; antibush; antius; baghdad; collaborateurs; communisti; communists; conspiracy; evil; frameup; hostage; idiots; iraq; islamofascists; italy; manifesto; rigged; setup; sgrena; shooting; staged; symps; terrorist; terrorists; terrorsymps; us
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To: libs_kma; All
Italian Intelligence should have turned the hostage over to us for transport and she should have been riding in the armored vehicle instead of being shot at by it. Its very possible that their heroics and lack of coordination got one of their own killed. It sucks to be them. Didn't the same thing nearly happen to French intelligence who were operating in Iraq independent of us on a hostage deal???
41 posted on 03/05/2005 9:21:12 AM PST by cdrw (Freedom and responsibility are inseparable)
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To: cdrw

They probably wanted it to look like an entirely Italian operation, no American help. Well they made a mistake and they payed for it.


42 posted on 03/05/2005 9:29:44 AM PST by BladeLWS
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To: DCPatriot

“If you were finally released after threatened daily with beheading for a month”

She told her colleagues at the daily Il Manifesto newspaper that she was never treated badly by her Iraqi abductors. She talks very highly of her abductors, for somebody who was “threatened daily with beheading”. This is BULL$#!T, it’s war she went to a war zone to write anti-American stories, she should be happy; she got what she wanted.

Holtz
JeffersonRepublic.com


43 posted on 03/05/2005 9:36:05 AM PST by JeffersonRepublic.com (The 51st state is right around the corner.)
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To: MizSterious
>I'm telling you the IQ level in here is dropping weekly
>>Yes, it is, judging from your recent posts

Oh, come on. The trees
have been overflowing trolls
since the election.








44 posted on 03/05/2005 9:36:40 AM PST by theFIRMbss
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To: BladeLWS

Very possible - wouldn't surprise me at all.


45 posted on 03/05/2005 9:43:00 AM PST by cdrw (Freedom and responsibility are inseparable)
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To: Let's Roll

Why not? Our irrational Libs are reflexive against our military and theirs would be no different. Anyone not hostile to us on the basis we are Americans, is subject to a biased press this journalist represents. I guarentee right now they are being hit hard with propaganda, most twisted and some untrue. The question is whether they have a strong alternative news media to combat it. Somehow I doubt whatever exists there is as strong as ours.

Part of the reason the world is hostile to America is a direct result of the press.


46 posted on 03/05/2005 10:10:47 AM PST by Soul Seeker
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To: Major_Risktaker

Apparantly, these people felt it was their obligation (as comrades in good standing) to continue the struggle against the capitalist dogs of the United States in even the most moronic and obviously suicidal manner. To slow down would have been viewed by all good communists as an act of capitulation.

I repeat my original post: Duh!


47 posted on 03/05/2005 10:46:33 AM PST by Buckeye Battle Cry (Life is too short to go through it clenched of sphincter and void of humor - it's okay to laugh.)
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To: Buckeye Battle Cry

These Communists must assume Americans are stupid.
They want you to believe that the driver was in compliance with the regulations, and the soldiers fired on the car without provocation. But why would the soldiers do that? What would they have to gain by creating an international incident?


48 posted on 03/05/2005 1:16:21 PM PST by mwfsu84
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To: Soul Seeker

It would be helpful to get the internet site of a Conservative or Right Wing (not Fascist!) newspaper in Italy that is getting to the bottom of this, and can counter the propaganda put out by Reuters, il Manifesto, CNN, NYT and all the other symps.


49 posted on 03/05/2005 5:53:56 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Illegal Aliens "Those Wonderful People" in Jail Now Are $1.4 Billion A Year For California Taxpayers)
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To: AmericanInTokyo; an italian

an italian might know of such a sight.


50 posted on 03/05/2005 5:58:28 PM PST by Soul Seeker
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To: Soul Seeker

correction=site


51 posted on 03/05/2005 5:58:52 PM PST by Soul Seeker
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To: DCPatriot; Buckeye Battle Cry
Here's a tip to Italians in Iraq - SLOW DOWN WHEN APPROACHING ARMED CHECKPOINTS! Duh!...........Buckeye Battle Cry

Duh what? If you were finally released after threatened daily with beheading for a month, would you want your driver to go down a well known dangerous road at the speed limit or would you have the pedal to the metal? Geesh! It was an accident...that's all..........DCPatriot

This was not the case of a frightened journalist driven by a driver who substituted a frightened woman's judgment for his own. Italian agents were involved.

It was not an "accident".

It was the logical consequence of piss-poor and amateurish planning on the part of the Italian agents.

If those agents were going to pick up the journalist and take her to Baghdad Airport, they should have taken the steps to previously coordinate their actions with all American unit commanders along their intended route.

In the modern battle field of instant death for a two second lapse of judgment, IFF (Identification Friend or Foe) is Rule Number One for Staying Alive.

The Italian agents, of all people, should have realized that approaching a U.S. checkpoint without IFF and at a high rate of speed and refusing to stop would earn them an immediate Darwin Award.

Most of Europe has been at peace for too long and Europeans have lost the basic skills to survive in a battlefield.

52 posted on 03/05/2005 6:25:05 PM PST by Polybius
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To: Polybius
Somebody said that she claimed she was treated well...yet we read reports and...didn't we all see video of her crying for her life?

Or am I confusing that with the missing woman who was married to an Iraqi?

53 posted on 03/05/2005 6:47:23 PM PST by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
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To: Polybius

The focus of this story is all wrong.
The focus should be
"Italian Government Bank Rolling Iraq Terrorists"

5 million dollars now another 7 or 8 million more. These Italian agents should have been arrested. It is immaterial if you give terrorists 12 million dollars because you are Iran and hat the USA or Italy and supposedly our ally.

Is there any doubt that for every million dollars you give to terrorists you are buying the deaths of dozens if not hundreds of innocent people. What is the logic you ransom one person and virtually guarantee numerous other kidnappings and the deaths of other people.

I have to believe that this ransom money will inevitably cost several American Soldiers their lives. I would also guess this money they are giving will cause far more harm than the pitiful little help the Italians are giving us.

I saw one analyst say that many of the so-called “insurgents” were really basically criminals and not necessarily people with political motives who were being paid X number of dollars per bomb.


54 posted on 03/05/2005 6:49:31 PM PST by Jonah Johansen
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To: Jonah Johansen

The amounts of alleged ransoms I quoted may be too high. It may be in the range of a million or two.


55 posted on 03/05/2005 7:13:15 PM PST by Jonah Johansen
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To: Polybius

You present solid logic clearly based upon knowledge and experience. Thank you for elaborating on my previous point.


56 posted on 03/05/2005 7:19:38 PM PST by Buckeye Battle Cry (Life is too short to go through it clenched of sphincter and void of humor - it's okay to laugh.)
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To: Jonah Johansen

You're right!


57 posted on 03/06/2005 6:23:21 AM PST by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
I heard on one of the news nets this a.m., on CNN I think, that Sgrena is reporting that she was told by her captors that the US would try to keep her from reaching the airport. A) Why would she believe what the terrorists purportedly holding her hostage were telling her? and B) Why in Heaven's name would we try to stop her, since Sgrena seems to think we had it in for her in particular?

Boy, every time this wench opens her mouth she shoots herself in the foot.

FWIW, I hope she keeps talking.

58 posted on 03/06/2005 6:28:33 AM PST by mewzilla (Has CBS retracted the story yet?)
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To: mewzilla
And, keep in mind:

HOSTAGE RANSOM FOR APPEASING EUROPEAN COMMUNISTS WHO VENTURED INTO IRAQ TO STIR UP ANTI-AMERICAN REPORTS = HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF $$$ FOR TERRORISTS = PURCHASE OF WEAPONS = MORE DEAD AMERICANS ON THE BATTLEFIELD KILLED BY TERRORISTS

59 posted on 03/06/2005 10:06:53 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Illegal Aliens "Those Wonderful People" in Jail Now Are $1.4 Billion A Year For California Taxpayers)
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To: jess35; AmericanInTokyo

"I don't know why Italy is whining. They(assuming you mean the people in the woman's car?)are completely responsible for this incident."

1st, the video of her begging for her life is very strange without the usual AK pointed at her head and the masked morons with the islamic gibberish, then running the road block to instigate an attack to keep the "News" going about her "ordeal".

Then the MSM jumps all over this story and reports it exactly to plan it seems. How many Americans are going to swallow this load of tripe, and how many anti-Americans, here and abroad, are going to use this for their big demonstrations and protest parties?

Nah, you don't smell a rat, that's her perfume "musk de rodente".


60 posted on 03/07/2005 7:01:18 AM PST by Blue Collar Christian ( Most people believe they don't have to answer to God. ><BCC>)
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