"I hate Illinois Nazis." - Joilet Jake
Posted on 03/05/2005 4:33:27 PM PST by ajr276
The gov't and WE should concentrate on the muzlims in America...They are a far larger threat than any white only, or black only group...
Fine, tell me why anyone suspects white supremacists.
I really don't beleive it. It's just more stories of the boogieman to me.
Matthew Hale is awaiting sentencing for having attempted the murder of the judge whose husband and mother were killed.
So how is that connected to this? More to the point where is the evidence that this murder was the work of a hate group?
Yes. Racially motivated violence is racially motivated violence. The ethnicity of the group makes no difference to me.
Yes. Racially motivated violence is racially motivated violence. The ethnicity of the group makes no difference to me.
"But experts warn the hate movement could actually become more violent under those circumstances, as angry "lone wolf" extremists take matters into their own hands."
Well??? Which is it? Is it Hate Groups, or is it the Lone Wolf thats deadlier?
Poor women and children most at risk...experts say...
There is no direct evidence...yet. The two are connected because Hale attempted to have Lefkow killed after she upheld a ruling that stated he could no longer use "World Church of the Creator" as the name of his white supremacist organization. Now that he's only a month away from sentencing, her husband and mother are dead. That is at least a moderately strong circumstantial link.
Just as I was somewhat offended by the way everyone assumed that the DC sniper was a white male
*** Why? It fit the profile. If I'm to believe what others say about racial profiling then no one should be offended.
They suspect Matthew Hale because of a circumstantial evidence link to a judge ruling. Otherwise, I don't think these groups are a threat as much as individuals may be.
"There is no direct evidence...yet."
Tried and convicted case closed. LOL The guy is due for sentencing is exactly the reason he seems least likely to have anything to do with it. Still sounds like a botched robbery to me.
Understood...welcome to FR. FR has hundreds and thousands of active members with a wide variety of opinions. My personal opinion of racial profiling is that it has its place but should not be the only tool of policing.
Let's see: The Nation of Islam's doctrine holds that all whites are demons that resulted from a scientific experiment gone wrong 5000 years ago. According to MSM types (like the Post-Dispatch), the NOI is not a "hate group", while the Hale's "church" (a mirror image) is. Moreover, if you look up the NOI on David Horowitz's new "Discover the Network" site, you'll note that NOI isn't marginalized in any way like Hale's bunch of crazies are. In fact, it operates under 'covenants' with the "mainstream" NAACP and Congressional Black Caucus. NOI speakers regularly appear at Black (ostensibly Christian) churches as well. Do we ever hear from the MSM about this group's beliefs?
There's also MEChA and the Aztlan movement, which advocates the ethnic cleansing and "reconquista" of the entire Southwest quarter of the US. We never hear a word from the MSM (or the Republican establishment, for that matter) about their peculiar beliefs, either. Nope, only one group of people is ever singled out being capable of forming "hate groups." Don't be fooled by the false moralism of liberals. While they self-righteously prattle on about the terrible evils of racism, they'll gladly bury the stories of Mugabe's ethnic cleansing of Zimbabwe, the wholesale slaughter of white farmers under the ANC's anarcho-tyranny in South Africa, etc, etc., etc.
It's also interesting to see how the "professional journalists" at the MSM have already decided who killed these hapless victims. Judges try a lot of cases and make a lot of enemies amongst various criminals - any of whom would have motive to carry out an atrocity like this. Another curiousity largely unreported by the so-called professional journalists is that Judge Lefkow actually ruled in Hale's favor initially, and only later ruled against him (in the trademark case) under order from the appellate court. Yes, Hale is crazy and he certainly threatened the judge (which landed him in prison). It does not necessarily follow that one of his moronic disciples carried out the murders on his orders, though.
Terrorism is terrorism, so extend we should. Some of these groups have developed biological agents, ricin being a favorite. And remembering timothy McVeigh, their willingness to cause mass casualties should not be underestimated.
No jump right in with both feet... even if you say something moronic FReepers are very forgiving (well most are anyway).
1. Hale tried to have Lefkow killed.
2. Hale is one month from sentencing for that crime.
3. Lefkow's husband and mother are murdered.
Now, the above isn't by itself proof, but it is either a crazy coincidence or a possible link. If nothing else, the white supremacy angle deserves looking into. To do otherwise would be nothing short of negligent.
Also, what have you seen or read that leads to a "botched robbery" conclusion?
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