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Ukraine's Security Chief Says Ex-Official Killed Himself (shot twice in the head)
NY Times ^ | March 5 | STEVEN LEE MYERS

Posted on 03/05/2005 5:31:43 PM PST by jb6

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To: bd476
Thanks for ping. I am curious If Putinists produce this propaganda on their own or get it from HQ, directly or not - handbooks, instructions....
41 posted on 03/06/2005 1:20:26 AM PST by Grzegorz 246
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To: jb6

Thanks for posting this article my dear Russian friend.


42 posted on 03/06/2005 1:22:10 AM PST by Grzegorz 246
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To: rogue yam; CATravelAgent; 2banana; libfo; Agog; Fiddlstix; chudogg; FreedomSurge; redhead; ...
Eastern European ping list


FRmail me to be added or removed from this Eastern European ping list

43 posted on 03/06/2005 1:25:52 AM PST by Grzegorz 246
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To: Grzegorz 246

LOL, maybe they have it memorized.


44 posted on 03/06/2005 1:35:10 AM PST by bd476
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To: jb6; Lukasz
Show us the chart with Putin's achievements ! Show it !!!
46 posted on 03/06/2005 5:59:55 AM PST by Grzegorz 246
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To: Grzegorz 246

Yes especially that part about nuclear fuel for Iran and weapons for Syrians and Palestinians.


47 posted on 03/06/2005 6:04:44 AM PST by Lukasz (Terra Polonia Semper Fidelis!)
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To: jb6
The chief of Ukraine's security service said Saturday that the country's former interior minister, Yuri F. Kravchenko, had shot himself twice in the head on Friday, refuting speculation that he had been killed by someone else.

Yep. That sure refutes it for me. Lots of people commit suicide by multiple head-shots.

48 posted on 03/06/2005 6:06:19 AM PST by Lazamataz (Proudly Posting Without Reading the Article Since 1999!)
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To: MeekOneGOP

There's a Ukraine ping list?

If you wish, I'd be delighted to be on the Ukraine ping list.


50 posted on 03/06/2005 6:54:53 AM PST by franksolich (look for the "made in Norway" label on the can of fish)
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The first shot went through his chin and out his mouth, Mr. Turchinov said. The second bullet entered his right temple.

Man, this guy had one hell of a determination. Most people who shoot themselves in the face and screw it up are usually in to much pain and shock to pull the trigger again.

When I was taking my Emergency Medical Technician classes, way back around 1970, we had a slide show of autopsy photos presented by the NY City medical examiner. There was the excised trachea with the whole hot dog lodged in it and a few others like that. Then he showed us a photo of a man's shaved head with 9 bullet holes in it.

He asked us "was this murder or suicide."

I immediately raised my hand and stated confidently "suicide." I reasoned that if it wasn't suicide then there's no logical purpose for even asking the question. Sure enough, I was right.

The guy had a small caliber handgun and fired into his head 4 times, flinching each time. For those first 4 shots there was an entry wound then a track under the scalp but above the skull (creasing it each time) and an exit wound, thus the first 8 bullet holes. Then he put the gun in the middle of his forehead and ended up with one more entry wound.

He died.

I agree it's unlikely in this case, but not impossible.

Now, a gruesome, but funny, cartoon from many years ago has police standing around in a commercial kitchen. There's a hand meat grinder with a pile of ground meat coming out the front, and an arm sticking out of the top feeder chute leading down to the hand crank.

One cop says to the other "That's the most determined suicide I've ever seen!"

51 posted on 03/06/2005 7:02:55 AM PST by Phsstpok ("When you don't know where you are, but you don't care, you're not lost, you're exploring.")
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To: franksolich
I've added you to the Ukraine ping list. Thanks. :^)

52 posted on 03/06/2005 7:12:46 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: Lukasz

Hay, you mean like the light water reactor plus fuel that the EU is now offerring for free to Iran? Lots of room for you to talk, but then again, that never stopped you.


53 posted on 03/06/2005 12:43:11 PM PST by jb6 (Truth == Christ)
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To: Grzegorz 246
Thanks for posting this article my dear Russian friend.

Why complain, you Poles sold you and your children's souls to the EU's Chirac and company.
54 posted on 03/06/2005 12:47:54 PM PST by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: jb6

heh


55 posted on 03/06/2005 12:49:30 PM PST by Grzegorz 246
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To: GarySpFc; Grzegorz 246
Busting the EU myths (Shedding light on the vampire of EU Fascism)

Circle of Barbed Wire (Great read on EU Fascism to come)

The EU Constitution – an analysis (Analysis of fascism to come)

Gary, I'm surprised Grzegorz had time to be on FR, after all with the pro-slavery vote (ie: the EU unConstitution vote) coming up, I'd expect him to be out rallying the future slaves to vote their freedom away.

56 posted on 03/06/2005 12:50:26 PM PST by jb6 (Truth == Christ)
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To: Grzegorz 246
Thanks for ping. I am curious If Putinists produce this propaganda on their own or get it from HQ, directly or not - handbooks, instructions....

At least Putin is a professing Christian. You Poles sold your souls out to a bunch of atheists.
57 posted on 03/06/2005 12:50:26 PM PST by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: GarySpFc
This is exactly what I expected from you Gary. You should know that I find your posts very valuable and always appreciate your input. Really.
58 posted on 03/06/2005 12:51:45 PM PST by Grzegorz 246
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To: GarySpFc

Not just atheists but atheists with Islamic backing. Soon, when they are a slave province to the enlightened EU, they'll have the joy of abortion on demand, euthenasia, multi-culturalism, a Mosque on every cornor, Islamic education in the schools, Shari courts, gay parades and all the other progress EU group think crap.


59 posted on 03/06/2005 12:52:06 PM PST by jb6 (Truth == Christ)
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To: GarySpFc

Exactly. We will burnt in hell.


60 posted on 03/06/2005 12:52:44 PM PST by Grzegorz 246
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