Posted on 03/07/2005 1:16:58 AM PST by HAL9000
The story of the rilasciata journalist
"my kidnappers? He never considers you enemy "
Sgrena speaks from its bed of hospital: "They said to fight for the liberation irachena, were not sgozzatori".
ROME - Mentre it speaks has the look turned to the television, where the images slide that will remain. She that to the mattino he comes down malferma from the dell’aereo ladder, the Ciampi president who to deep night caress the coffin of Nicholas Calipari. Giuliana Sgrena has not still understood. Still account that every its word, now, will come put under to a microscope, analyzed, read has not become in every its possible shading.
To see it on its d’ospedale bed, to feel the speed with which it articulates its reasoning, one notices to us that it in order before has need to speak. In order to exorcise, in order to try a personal budget.
It has said of to have been dealt well from the kidnappers.
"I confirm. Because "
In its first video it seemed deprived of hope.
"It I was. Still I had not succeeded to pour a tear until that moment, and I am one that often cries. When I have spoken about Pier, they are put to me to cry ".
The kidnappers what had said to them?
"they had asked to Me to dramatise. It was a difficult moment, because I was in one phase of great incavolatura. I was rabid, I litigated. I did not understand their reasons ".
Which were its feelings in their comparisons?
"never they are not felt one to me enemy. It was not easy, mine was one submission position. But I have tried to understand them, through the phrases that we exchanged ".
And what has understood?
"They said to fight for the liberation dell’Iraq, supported of being in war and therefore forced to use half every. They defined resistance irachena. But they are not sgozzatori as To the Zarkawi or those of the autobombe ".
Exists this difference?
"Sure. They made the sign me of the cut the throat and said: "We are not those" ".
Not that the person seizure is encomiabile un’attivit.
"I have always supported the civil resistance irachena. But in war, I can understand that it is arrived to these excesses ".
One refers to the seizures?
"Sure. In order to clear: To the Zarkawi it is not resistance. E’ terrorism. The autobombe they are terrorism. C’ an armed resistance that uses unacceptable methods ".
For she in Iraq is in course one war?
"Yes. My abductors think also. "not to return never more", they said to me. Because in war not there are rules ".
It lives this seizure like one its defeat.
"I have lost, and is the reason for which I will not return more in Iraq. Not hour, at least. I wanted to tell the devastating effects of this occupation. But for they in this military moment not c’ distinction between or journalists, Italians or French ".
According to Pier, its companion, she had information that could have given annoyance to the Americans.
"Creed has been misinterpreted. I do not have no inside information, you even had to them. But me imbestialisco if I feel to speak about "tragic incident" "
It has spoken about "fire rain". But Calipari has been killed from a single blow.
"I memory that on the c’era seat beside me a mountain of projects them. They are not in a position to quantifying them. But I can say that in a moment all the glasses of the machine have gone in fragments ".
Which is its opinion?
"I do not have the truth in pocket. Task, but is only a hypothesis, than l’esito happy of the negotiation can have given annoyance. The Americans are against this type of operation. For they the war is war, the human life counts little ".
C’ who the accusation already of being antiAmerican.
"it is not a crime. The debate on these topics comes made from people that to Bagdad it has not put foot. I defy anyone to go to then see those that he happens in Iraq and not to be antiAmerican ".
This changed vicissitude l’ha?
"it has not changed my personal convictions on the war and on what it is happening in Iraq".
It does not fear to pass for "ingrate", as it happened to the two Simone?
"it would hurt to Me, but I do not exclude that it can happen. It would be a po’ hypocritical. Ringraziato of heart who I had ringraziare. Sure, I have my opinions. But also before my liberation one knew as I thought it ".
Commie isn't kidnapped, but simply hangs with some liberators, and in the end the Americans are the villains.
This story ALL makes sense now, doesn't it?
This is the case of one woman who right now should be shot.
Nobody in this day and age should be providing millions to terrorists for anything.
She her communist self is not so important that she should be able to fund her release with what could kill many Americans and others.
It isn't impossible that she simply staged this to pass money to terrorists against the coalition.
I wish the worst for this woman and all involved in giving terrorist funding.
If the suspicions that are growing stronger as each morsel of inforamtion comes forth are confirmed, this woman should be arrested and charged with terrorism.
Guantanamo Bay for her. Or better yet, Abu Ghraib.
If she set this up and caused a huge ransom to be paid to the terrorists, thereby providing them with money for more mortars, rockets, IEDs and the like, she is as guilty of the deaths of innocent people as are those who are doing the various forms of bombing.
All yer whops, our not, sho-nuff, don't belong to usins!
Drudge has a link to a Wash Time story that is related.
http://www.washtimes.com/world/20050307-120131-5769r.htm
That is saying the Italians paid $6M for her release, and told us squat either about the deal or about her being released & on her way to the airport.
That is one hell of a lot of weapons, ammo, and MREs for the "insurgents" she was pulling a Serena with. I certainly am not naive enough to think they plan to use the money to open a soup kitchen & orphanage!
This now makes it two Serenas & a Sgrena.
seems to me the press is resorting to ANYTHING to make us look bad
The story of the journalist released
« My kidnappers? Ever considered hostile»
Sgrena speaks from its bed of hospital: «Claim to fight for the iraqui liberation, is not sgozzatori».
ROME - M within speaks has the look I upset to the television, where run the images that rimarranno. She that to the morning it comes down shaky from the staircase dell’aereo, the president Ciampi that to night melt strokes the coffin of Nicola Calipari. Giuliana Sgrena did not still understood. Not still it has given back account that every its word, now, verrà put under to a microscope, analyzed, read in every its possible touch.
To see it on its read d’ospedale, to hear the speed with that articulates its reasoning, it it is noticed us that she for before needs to speak. To exorcise, to try a personal budget.
She claim to to be been treated well from the kidnappers.
«I confirm. Why?»
In its video first it seemed despaired.
«I was it. Not still I had succeeded to pour a tear until that moment, and I am a that cries often. When I talked about Pier, I have put to cry».
The kidnappers what had told them?
«They had it asked to dramatize me. It was a difficult moment, because I was in a phase of large incavolatura. I was angry, I quarreled. I did not understand their motive».
That they were his feelings in their comparisons?
«I am not myself ever heard a their enemy. It is not easy, the mine it was a position of submission. But I wanted to I understand them, across the sentences that we exchanged».
And thing understood?
«They claim to fight for the liberation dell’Iraq, supported to be in war and therefore compelled to use every means. They defined themselves iraqui resistance. But I is not sgozzatori like To The Zarkawi or those of the car bombs».
It exists this difference?
«Certainty. They did me the mark of the cut to the throat and said: "We is not those" ».
Thatnot the I confine in person it is a’attività commendable.
«I always I leaned the civil resistance iraqui. But in war, I can understand that you are arrived to these exceeded».
It is reported to the you confine?
«Certainty. To explain: To The Zarkawi is not resistance. And’ terrorism. The car bombs are terrorism. C’è a resistance arms that unacceptable the united states methods».
For her in Iraq is in course a war?
«Yes. Also my kidnappers think it. "Not to return ever more", they said me. Why in war it there is not rules».
She lives this confine like an its defeat.
«I lost, and it is the motive for that I will not return more in Iraq. Not hour, at least. I wanted to tell the effects devastating of this occupation. But for them in this moment not c’è distinction between soldiers or journalists, between Italians or Frenchmen».
According to Pier, its companion, she had information that could have given trouble to the Americans.
«I believe it is been misunderstood. I have not no information reserved, even if had them. However I become enraged myself if I hear to talk about "tragedian carving"»
It talked about «rain of fire». But Calipari was killed from an alone blow.
«I remember that on the seat next to myself c’era a mountain of projectiles. I am not in a position to quantify them. But I can say that in a moment all of the glass of the car went in pieces».
Which it is its opinion?
« I have not the truth in pocket. I think, but it is alone a hypothesis, that l’esito happy of the negotiation can have given trouble. The Americans are against this type of operation. For them the war is war, the human life counts little».
C’è who the accusation already of to be antiamericana.
«It is not an offense. The discussion on these you are afraid comes done from people that to Baghdad did not put foot. I challenge whoever go to see what happens in Iraq and to is not then antiamericano».
This event l’ha changed?
«It did not change my convictions personal on the war and on what it is happening in Iraq».
Not subjects of to pass for «ungrateful», how happens to two Simone?
«It would injure me, but I do not exclude that it can happen. It has been a little’ hypocritical. I thanked of heart who should thank. Certainty, I have my opinions. But also before my liberation is known like I thought it».
Someone else mentioned it. Setup, the woman is a total idiot.
That should be FreeTranslation.com.
The discharged journalist's tale«My kidnappers? Never consider you enemies »
Sgrena talks from his bed about hospital: «They were saying they fought for the Iraqi liberation, were not sgozzatori.»
ROMA - M entre speaks turned the glance To the television, where that run the images they will remain. Her what at the morning gets down shaky from the list of items of the plane, the president Ciampi at night he founds caresses the coffin of Nicola Calipari. Giuliana Sgrena did not yet understand. She did not yet realize every word of his, will be now put below a microscope, analysed, read in every possible shade of his.
To see her on his hospital bed To hear the speed with articulates his reasoning, need to speak notices what she for first has. To exorcize, try a personal budget.
She said she was treated well by the kidnappers .
«I confirm. Because?»
In the his first display she was seeming been dejected .
«Him I had. I had not been yet able to pour a tear until that moment, and I am one he often grieves. When I talked about Pier, they started me me grieving.»
The kidnappers what they had told her?
«They had asked me for dramatizing. It was a difficult moment, because I was in a phase of big incavolatura. I was furious, was arguing. I did not understand their reasons.»
What were his sensations in their comparisons?
«They have never felt an enemy of theirs. She not was easy, my was a submission position. But I tried to understand them, I cross the sentences we were exchanging.»
And what understood?
«They were saying they fought for the liberation of Iraq, were claiming to be in war and therefore forced to use every means. One were defining Iraqi resistance. But I am not sgozzatori as To the Zarkawi or those some autobombe.»
Does this difference exist?
«Some. They were doing the sign of the cut to the throat and were saying to: "We are not those ones."»
Not that kidnapping is a praiseworthy activity .
«I have always put the Iraqi civil resistance. But in war, I can understand that to please arrive to these excesses.»
Does he report the attachments?
«Some. To clarify: To the Zarkawi resistance is not. And’ terrorism. Autobombe are terrorism. There army that uses unacceptable methods is a resistance.»
For her in Iraq is going on a war?
«Yes. My sequestrators also think him. "Never get back any more," they were telling me. Because in war there are not rules.»
She lives this attachment as a defeat of his.
«I lost, and it is the reason which I will not become for again any more in Iraq. Not time, at least. I wanted to tell the devastating effects of this occupation. But for them at this moment there is not distinction between military either journalists, between Italians or Frenches.»
Second Pier, his companion, she had information that could have given nuisance to Americans .
«I think I was misunderstood. I do not have any reserved information, perhaps had. However I become furious if I hear talk about "tragic accident "»
He talked about «fire rain.» But Calipari was killed by an only blow.
«I remember on the next seat to me there was a mountain of bullets. They are not able to quantify them. But I can say in a moment all the glasses of the car went in fragments.»
What is his opinion?
«I do not have the truth in pocket. I think, but a hypothesis is alone, the result happy of the negotiation can have given nuisance. Americans are against this kind of operation. For them the war is war, the human life counts little.»
There the charge already to be anti-American is who.
«It is not a crime. The debate on these are afraid people that in Baghdad did not put foot is acted as. I challenge whoever to go and see that what happens in Iraq and not to be then anti-American.»
Did this event change it?
«He did not change my personal convictions on the war and what that is happening in Iraq.»
Is not afraid to come for «ungrateful,» how happened Simon at two o'clock?
«He would wound me, but I do not exclude you can happen. He would be a little hypocritical. I thanked who I had to thank for heart. Sure, I have my opinions. But one also knew before my liberation how I thought her.»
AMEN !!!
Allow me to express my gratitude to the freedom-loving Italian people who don't fall for this Communist tripe. Grazie.
TThey are all on the same side. The Commies and the Islamofascist have the same ideology, oppression.
You have no need to feel bad...we have horrible people like this in our country, too.
Damn..our troops missed the target.
Was Eason Jordan in sight ?
As usual, the Bush White House is acting defensive and guilty.
Why doesn't my govenment stand up for the truth and ask the Two-faced Italians to get the Ef' out of Iraq before we throw their treasonous butts out of there by force.
After her return to her native country, the 56-year-old journalist Sgrena has raised serious reproaches against U.S. forces. She didn't rule out that the American soldiers had deliberately shot at the vehicle that was taking her and Calipari to the airport. In an interview with the daily "Corriere Della Sera" published today, she said: "I think, but this is only a theory, that they disliked the happy ending to the negotiations. The Americans are against this kind of operation. War is war, a human life doesn't count much for them". Sgrena wrote in her own newspaper "Il Manifesto", over the weekend, that her kidnappers had admonished her to be very careful "because the Americans don't want that you return".
"Spiegel-Online"....Italien trauert um den Sgrena-Retter
Her boyfriend, Pierluigi Scolari, had claimed Sgrena is in the possession of information which is unpleasant for the Americans could - this also could have been a reason for the attack. The reporter herself hasn't repeated this charge. In her "Manifesto" article she only writes ambiguously: At this time, she cannot say everything yet.
taggeschau.de....Wut, Trauer und Spekulationen in Italien
My translation.
It appears to me that these sites are starting to back away from reporting anything this woman says without qualifying statements. They mention the statement by the Italian Parliamentarian to ease up on the speculation, for example.
This chick could be Mama T's long lost twin.
longjack
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