Posted on 03/07/2005 2:29:56 PM PST by Nachum
(IsraelNN.com) Prime Minister Ariel Sharon responded this afternoon to the attack near Hevron's Cave of the Patriarchs.
Sharon said that Jews will continue to live in Hevron and pray at the Tomb of the Patriarchs. He said the attack was "an attempt to harm Jewish freedom of worship" and that he would stand by every person's right to pray there. He also said that the attack only strengthened Israel's insistence that the PA fight terrorism.
The Prime Minister made the statements at the beginning of a Likud faction meeting.
More moral equivalency. I guess with that outlook you believed John Kerry - that US policy was to commit atrocities and war crimes in Vietnam making the US military the equivalent of the Viet Cong.
Using your moral logic, if one man (Dr Goldstein) with a previous history of helping Arabs, acting alone and spontaneously, losing it, is the same as a deliberately incited, mob attack including police action (Hebron Arabs in 1929), then Kerry must have been correct.
And what “sanction” does one seek for the perpetrator of the equivalent massacre of 1994? I assure you all (where “all” = 1) are dead.
Wilder can “sound reasonable” because he is reasonable. Does that mean every last man, woman and Jewish Hebron child is reasonable? By your gold standard of one man = labeling all, every single person would have to be above reproach or be labeled “fanatics.” Unfair standard.
Double moral standards applied deleteriously to Jews/Israelis has a specific meaning which I am sure does not apply to you. So maybe you want to rethink your faulty comparisons.
Moshe Givati made remarks about a singular event where one child was killed by Jewish gunfire. Again not the same. He also had very positive things to say about Dr Goldstein’s conduct towards Arabs prior to the tragic episode.
Saying some Israelis, even those who may be soldiers, are hostile to Jewish Hebronites is like quoting Noam Chomsky on the Bush administration. All sound and fury signifying nothing.
Gee, your whole list is after the Oslo Accords that brought peace to the area. Before then, the Arabs did not have police control in Hebron. Could it be, that giving Israel's land to Arabs brings war not peace?!
Could it be, that the old war dog Sharon is going to start the worst war in Israel's history, with a road map?
Eric has been an expert in Mideast policy since his daddy Arafat produced him.
I support throwing the bastards out of the country that did not come from here. That is 80% of them. The ones that take up arms against the legitimate government, Israel I support prison for them, and the ones that kill people in terrorist attacks I support public execution. Towns that harbor terrorist attacks I support carpet bombing.
Jenin, Ramallah should simply not exist at this point.
Frankly I support carpet bombing Syria, Iran, Egypt, Saudi Arabia and all countries that field terrorist army's. A hostile attack on a civilian target is an act of war that should be answered with massive response.
They were given atonomous control of over 90% of their population in a peace gesture on the path of making them free in a State of their own. They took that overly generous gesture and used it to try and kill the ones that gave them the gift because they wanted it all, and the Jews dead to boot. The Arabs simply lost all legitimate claim to the land when they fostered an insurrection of war crimes from that land when it was given over to their control. Now they are nothing but criminals that declared war on a greater foe. And in the end, they WILL pay a very high price for that. It is the way of history, those who poke sharp sticks at dogs on leashes, tend to rue the day when the leash breaks. The dogs do not forget the laughes, the injury, the taunts. And one day, when they go to far and the dog must defend its life, they get torn up bigtime.
Isaiah 14:29 is their day, it is the prelude to the complete destruction of the Arab Leagues holdings in the Land of Israel as God promised it. Read Isaiah 15-19. City after city after city gone, all in one evening. Damascus is included in the list. But then Damascus is inside the old borders of Israel.
Cling to your retoric, because when the boat sinks, your lead life preserver will show its true value.
First of all, Chomsky is not reflective of Americans as a whole. Yet in Israel, the majority rather clearly favors disengagement. Two of the four biggest parties support it fully (Labor and Shinui), as does a majority of the largest party (Likud). Polls consistently show major support for it among the Israeli population. The concept really isn't in question, though the methods are.
Secondly, while there are of course many differences between the First and Second Hebron Massacres, they are similar events in their impact. The first massacre's participation was more widespread. The second is far more recent, within the memory of most people in the region. The first involved some police action, the second was by a uniformed military officer in uniform carrying a military weapon. The first was general, the second quick and designed for maximum impact (imagine a suicide bombing on a major holiday in a major synagogue). More people died in the first, but were it not for one gutsy Palestinian armed with only a fire extinguisher, that might not have been the case.
Leaving aside how he managed to get into the Cave, Goldstein's massacre could have been dismissed as the actions of a lone nut. The reaction has been more problematic. Yes, the overwhelming majority of Israelis condemn what he did. But those who do not have been tolerated far more than those who lionize suicide bombers. Not many suicide bombers have de facto shrines at their gravesites, or markers lauding their deed. The fact that this is allowed says much.
Unless one is willing to completely blow off the Palestinians as meaningless (which neither the US nor Israel is willing to do), their impressions must be considered...and the Second Massacre had just as big an impact on them as the First has on Israeli citizens. Put bluntly, it was about as bad as they can imagine. The only thing worse would be an attempt to destroy the Haram-al-Sharif mosques...and that has been attempted too.
Disengagement makes sense, as anyone who's ever tried to break up a fight between members of two different groups knows. That's why President Bush has pushed so hard for it. While it's going to start in Gaza, if there ever was a place that needs it, it's Hebron. Keeping the most virulent members of both groups in each other's faces can only lead to continuing trouble.
-Eric
Isaiah 14:29 is their day, it is the prelude to the complete destruction of the Arab Leagues holdings in the Land of Israel as God promised it. Read Isaiah 15-19. City after city after city gone, all in one evening. Damascus is included in the list. But then Damascus is inside the old borders of Israel.In other words, you support precisely what the Palestinian rejectionists support, only aimed in the opposite direction.
-Eric
No, in other words, I read the Bible. It is what WILL happen after all the politicians make "peace".
What I support is Israels right to an independant State, without all the looser nations dictating how and why they can fart.
What I support is Israels right to an independant State, without all the looser nations dictating how and why they can fart.So the United States is a "looser nation"?
-Eric
No you idiot, the Arabs around them that have lost the wars they started again and again are. One must loose to be a looser. Get it?
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--So the United States is a "looser nation"?
No you idiot, the Arabs around them that have lost the wars they started again and again are. One must loose to be a looser. Get it?
Ohhh....you mean loser nations. Okay.
If any nation is "dictating" disengagement to Israel, it's not the Arabs it's the United States. We're "losers"? You might want to ask Saddam about that.
-Eric
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