Anti-Smoking Nazi info needed...

[zbigreddogz]

I need some help. I have a generally conservative friend who is completely convinced that everyone who goes to a smoke-filled bar more then once in their life is gonna die lf lung cancer, etc. And is working to get smoking in bars and resturants banned in my state :(

I've read studies that show second-hand smoke isn't nearly as harmful as the MSM tries to make it out to be, but I've been short of luck finding them online. Can anybody link me to them?

[TAdams8591]

If you were standing out in the cold because of those pesky smokers, why ever did you need the plastic bag to keep the clothes that smelled like smoke away from the other clothes in your suitcase?

[Arkie2]

This quote


I don't give two cents. Let them ban the damn chit and be done with it.

[Blue Jays]

Hi Zen-

"...Even worse are the smokers who walk off the train, take a deep drag of a cigarette, throw their butt onto the platform, and then re-enter the train, exhaling all of their smoke into a no-smoking train..."

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Good luck trying to illustrate obvious inconsiderate behavior to hardcore smokers. They will go on and on about how tobacco smoke is just "another odor" and that it is absolutely no different than the smell of freshly-baked apple pie to others.

My other favorite is smokers tossing lit cigarettes out of their automobile sunroofs while I'm pedaling my bicycle or riding my motorcycle in the same lane. If it were a rare event, it wouldn't matter to me...but it has happened twice while on my bicycle and at least a half-dozen times on the freeway with my motorcycle.

While I don't think that courteous smoking should be banned, I do believe that associated laws (such as littering or causing hazardous driving conditions) should be enforced.

~ Blue Jays ~

[TAdams8591]

There are some perfumes that cause me to go into coughing fits lasting several minutes on some occasions. And if I am around it long enough, my clothes end up smelling just like it! I say let's ban PERFUME!!!!!

[GoLightly]

Yes, I have some allergies, as wrote in one of my earlier posts. I have taken Claritin as a last resort, but I do not want to take it every day. I was on Seldane, until it was banned. Guess that makes me a tad bit gun shy. Besides, Claratin lessens my symptoms, but does not make them all go away.

[SheLion]

Smokers represent 25% of the population, and the other 75% generally don't want to smell it.

What ticks me off isn't private establishments, but public areas - including outdoor areas - where non-smokers may be subjected to the smell of a smoker, with little recourse. Such as waiting for a train on an outdoor platform.

Even worse are the smokers who walk off the train, take a deep drag of a cigarette, throw their butt onto the platform, and then re-enter the train, exhaling all of their smoke into a no-smoking train.

It's smokers like these, in part, who have caused a backlash against smoker's rights to quietly enjoy their bad habits in private areas.

Just an FYI:  there is nothing better then a clean man with the smell of after shave and tobacco on them.  I love it.

Some of the Men:

           

The Gallery of Famous Smokers

 

[Arkie2]

I see you're one of those inconsiderate bicycle riders who get in the middle of the traffic lane and pedal at top speed, 15 or 20 miles per. You might consider that you're pissing off the folks waiting for you to get over next time you get flicked with a butt.

[Hillary's Lovely Legs]

If you were standing out in the cold because of those pesky smokers, why ever did you need the plastic bag to keep the clothes that smelled like smoke away from the other clothes in your suitcase?

Before I lost my site, I was able to go into a restaurant or club that had smoke. I would put my smokey clothes in plastic bags in my suitcase so they wouldn't stink up my other clothes or suitcase.

Now I can't go into a restaurant or bar that has any smoking, so I don't have to wrap up my clothes because they don't get stinky in the first place.

I know this is all fun and games for you, but I can lose my sight because of someone's addiction. I can go to very few restaurants and no bars in my state because of people's addictions. It's not funny.

[SheLion]

I don't give two cents. Let them ban the damn chit and be done with it.

Well, if they ban tobacco, then all the anti-smoking cry baby's in here will be hit next by the government.  Be it banning something they enjoy or taxing it to high heaven.  These people should be thanking the smoker's. 

Just about every state in the Union uses cigarette tax dollars to balance the state budgets.  If it weren't for smokers, where would the lawmakers get the money? Think about it.

[TAdams8591]

I can't count the number of times motorcyclists, rudely and sometimes illegally scooted ahead of my vehicle. That used to drive my parents NUTS when I was a kid. "They thought motorcycles were extremely dangerous, likely to cause accidents and should be banned from highways."

[TAdams8591]

Fun and games?????

I'm sorry you lost your sight, but if it were me I wouldn't expect bars and restaurants to ban smoking because of my problem.

[SheLion]

Good luck trying to illustrate obvious inconsiderate behavior to hardcore smokers. They will go on and on about how tobacco smoke is just "another odor" and that it is absolutely no different than the smell of freshly-baked apple pie to others.

I will take the smell of a sweet smelling man that smokes any day over the stench of someone with your attitude. I can smell you clear up here in Maine.  I had to turn on all my air purifiers to get your stink out of here.

My other favorite is smokers tossing lit cigarettes out of their automobile sunroofs while I'm pedaling my bicycle or riding my motorcycle in the same lane. If it were a rare event, it wouldn't matter to me...but it has happened twice while on my bicycle and at least a half-dozen times on the freeway with my motorcycle.

I didn't think tricycles were allowed on the freeway.

[GoLightly]

There are organizations advocating it. Here are a few links. There are tons more, if you look.

http://archives.cnn.com/2002/EDUCATION/10/03/perfume.ban.ap/

http://www.forces.org/articles/smellers/smellers.htm

Using fragrances in public is similar to smoking, said Town Administrator David Ames, who is also responsible for making the town compliant with the Americans with Disabilities Act. He said the Massachusetts Office of Disabilities recommended establishing the fragrance zones.

http://cbsnewyork.com/investigates/local_story_216120256.html

It's a case of the scented vs. the sensitive and more and more workplaces, organizations and schools across the country are creating fragrance free zones as a solution.

[Arkie2]

Sorry, your logic escapes me.

[TAdams8591]

"Just about every state in the Union uses cigarette tax dollars to balance the state budgets."

If ever there was a GOOD reason to quit smoking, the above is it!

[TAdams8591]

It's ridiculous!

[gidget7]

These media reports, which by the way are phoney as monopoly money, are in truth just attempting to take our focus off the REAL @1 public health risk.

When we see that addressed, maybe just maybe people might be free to tell the real story about smoking and second hand smoke.

[SheLion]

I know this is all fun and games for you, but I can lose my sight because of someone's addiction. I can go to very few restaurants and no bars in my state because of people's addictions. It's not funny.

No it's not funny at all!  Move to MAINE. EVERYTHING is smoke free!  You can go out to your heart's content and make up for the loss of revenue from ME not going out to dinner anymore.

It's a real pity that nannies and anti's and the government had to get into this.  This decision should have been left up to the private business owner and his patrons.  NOT the nanny government.

[muggs]

[SheLion]

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