Conflict in the Council on Foreign Relations

The New American ^ | March 12, 2005 | William Norman Grigg

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"The Council on Foreign Relations is a formidable place filled with formidable people -- former Cabinet secretaries and ambassadors, current CEOs and pundits of the media elite -- who've fired their reputations over the years in the foreign policy kiln," noted the February 26 Washington Post. "Even its headquarters -- at Park Avenue and 68th Street in Manhattan, in a mansion once owned by a Standard Oil director -- speaks of status, of power."

“High officials leaving government go to the council to roost,” continues the report. “Those seeking the reverse trek use the council to launch government careers. Heads of state give speeches there. Diplomats mix it up. Journalists gather to hash over issues of the day.... And task forces meet to craft reports on pressing national and global policy.” By way of full disclosure, Post staff writer Lynne Duke admitted, “this writer spoke on such a panel there 5½ years ago.”

This capsule description of the CFR brings to mind the comments made in an October 30, 1993 column by Post ombudsman Richard Harwood, entitled “Ruling Class Journalists,” in which the council was described as “the nearest thing we have to a ruling establishment in the United States.” If there is any figure whose name is “virtually synonymous with the council,” it would be Henry Kissinger, observes the Post’s Duke. “He and his New York-based international consulting firm, Kissinger Associates, are closely linked to two of the council’s most powerful figures” — council chair Peter Peterson and honorary vice chair Maurice Greenberg.

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To learn more about CFR, click here.

Q: What do Dick Gephardt, George Bush Sr., Newt Gingrich, Bill Clinton, Tom Brokaw, Dick Cheyney, Condoleeza Rice and Carl Sagan all ahve in common?

A: All are, or were once members of the CFR.

[theDentist]

Tin-Foil Hat Alert!

[Mulder]

Some of the more unenlightened folks will make fun of you, but the New World Order IS for real.

I was reading a book published in the early 90s, and it had a chart listing many of the folks in the CFR/Trilateral/etc... groups. The chart was organized by groups, such as "business leaders", "legislators", "executive branch", etc....

Most of the power players were on there. But what struck me were the names listed under the "Judiciary" section.

There were 3 names listed when the book was published before Klinton became president. Two of those three people are now supreme court justices.

[Fedora]

According to Duke, Kissinger and key CFR allies are involved in a feud with historian Kenneth Maxwell and his supporters. At issue was a review by Maxwell in Foreign Affairs — the CFR’s flagship journal — of a volume entitled The Pinochet File. Compiled by activist Peter Kornbluh (who’s aligned with the Institute for Policy Studies, a radical Marxist think-tank), the book accuses Kissinger of direct involvement in the 1973 coup that overthrew Chilean Marxist Salvador Allende and brought Augusto Pinochet to power.

Peter Kornbluh was the one who arranged Senator John Kerry's visit to meet the Sandinistas, at a time when Kerry also had an IPS member working for his staff (S. Steven Powell, Covert Cadre, p. 22, etc.).

[Hoplite]

What does "polishing" the black helicopters entail?

Removing the Boeing/Hughes/whatever dataplates and putting on ones for Sikorsky?

This post isn't my fault... I'm being manipulated by the Stonecutter Guild for their nefarious ends: "Who controls the Brithish Pound? Who keeps the metric system down?" etc.

[Archon of the East]

The problem with conspiracy theories is that people generally think of a group of people who get together and say OK what can we do to "rule the world". That is silly!Conspiracies don't exist for the sake of the conspiracy but for the common goals of the involved. Such motives would be money, power or competition on the highest level. If you were to think of it on those terms its not so difficult to imagine how actions of people may appear conspiratorial.That being said there is an awful lot of inconsistencies and apparent conflict to believe that members of the CFR and other organizations have anything more in common than there own individual interests at heart?

[Interesting Times]

It's a smaaall world aaaafter all.

Thanks...

[Prost1]

David Rockefeller, family and friends. A small group of a couple of thousand of the most wealthy, powerful individuals in the world.

Trilateral Commission is the economic side of the CFR.

Bohemian Club is their recreation. Davos is their international meeting.

Now, I need to get back to my IRS forms. Those silly things that keep me shackled to being an obedient citizen.

[THUNDER ROAD]

Some of the more unenlightened folks
will make fun of you,
but the New World Order IS for real.

You got that right Mulder !
But it always beats me , why so many of the
folks that are totally Ignorant on the subject
want to immediately drag out the
Tin Foil Alert, when this topic comes up ?
They seem to always have a totally kneejerk
uninformed, programmed response.

.....THUNDER.....

[libertyman]

That's right...& if anyone reads the Bible (which I think that a few FReepers might), it does prophecy, in the Book of Revelations especially, that there WILL be a one-world government--& how can one not see the signs of the building blocks for it being laid when they read the daily news???

This doesn't happen by accident or by an act of nature. It has to be PLANNED, by more than one person, & for an extended length of time: therefore it is a CONSPIRACY, plain & simple.

You can see it (if you are willing to look, of course) when the Supreme Court uses "international law" & the laws of other nations for its decisions rather than the Constitution;

--by President Bush starting the War on Iraq w/o a declaration of war by Congress & for the purposes of making Iraq obey mandates by the UN;

--by ignoring our borders (& national sovereignty) when it comes to illegal immigration;

--by his support for LOST (the UN's Law of the Sea Treaty), which will give the UN authority of most of the world's seabeds;

--by his support for CAFTA (the Central American Free Trade Agreement);

--the enormous growth in the federal government in all aspects of American life (& this is being done by a RINO President who calls himself "conservative"!!!!),,,,,,

It's time for FReepers who love this country to get their heads out of their a$$ & stand up for AMERICA & the CONSTITUTION rather than the GOP/Democrat party Elites (of which President Bush is just another member).

[seadevil]

It's time for FReepers who love this country to get their heads out of their a$$ & stand up for AMERICA & the CONSTITUTION rather than the GOP/Democrat party Elites (of which President Bush is just another member).

Ok Colonel Parker, gives your 10 point plan on what to do. Be specific please. Give us a list of concrete, credible, achievable items. C'mon, don't be shy, let's have at it shall we...defeat them Trilateralist-CFR-Freemason-Stonemason-UNpimping SOB's!!!!

Ok, I'm done now...my black helicopter awaits....ROTFLMAO

[libertyman]

OK, here's a start (these are in no certain order, & are NOT complete...not by any means!):

--elect a Congress & President that would eliminate ALL federal programs that are not specified in the Constitution;

--after whittling down the federal budget to its constitutional limits, keep the current tax system in place UNTIL the national debt is paid off, then repeal the 16th Amendment; sell off the vast amounts of federal land that originally belonged to the states, & use that money for paying off the debt as well;

--get out of the UN & other internationalist bodies who pose a threat to US sovereignty;

--go back to the gold standard & get rid of paper money, which the Constitution requires;

--re-commit our respect for the 9th & 10th Amendments by repealing the 17th Amendment, thus giving the state governments back their equal representatin in the Senate, & have that Senate repeal all treaties that violate the Constitution (NAFTA, for example);

--re-emphasize that the states are sovereign bodies that can decide for themselves how to govern w/in their own boundaries, & that they have the right to ignore federal dictates, either made by Congress or the USSC, that violate the Constitution;

--BRING OUR TROOPS HOME from overseas & use them to either patrol our borders or to build a wall to protect us from the flood of illegal immigrants; TEMPORARILY cut down on the # of LEGAL immigrants until the next Census.

--get the federal government out of fighting crime & give that role back to the states, where it originally belongs;

That would make a decent start for returning our nation back to the constitutional government it once had. The Constitution Society, http://www.constitution.org , states these principles a LOT better than I ever can, & I hope you would take a few minuites to read them:

1. CONSTITUTIONALIST PLATFORM:

http://www.constitution.org/pol/us/consplat.htm

2. SUMMARY OF CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS, POWERS, & DUTIES:

http://www.constitution.org/powright.htm


3. STATEMENT OF GRIEVANCES & DEMANDS FOR REDRESS:

http://www.constitution.org/grievred.htm

'Nuff said?????

[windchime]

Thanks for the ping, Fedora!

[w6ai5q37b]

The problem with conspiracy theories...

Please read the quote below, and keep in mind that the definition of a conspiracy is a secret act requiring two or more people to participate. When those participants are "world leaders," look out.

"I know of the operations of this network because I have studied it for twenty years and was permitted in the early 1960s to examine its papers and secret records. I have no aversion to it or to most of its aims and have, for much of my life, been close to it and to many of its instruments .... my chief difference of opinion is that it wishes to remain unknown, and I believe its role in history is significant enough to be known."

Carroll Quigley in Tragedy and Hope

[Archon of the East]

I do agree in some ways! There is an interesting article by Robert Locke if you haven't read it already. He is a former assistant editor of Frontpage magazine

http://www.bestwriters.com/good/archives/00000031.htm

sorry about the link, I still can't figure that one out. just copy it to your whatever its called. I am really computer clueless.

[Freebird Forever]

the definition of a conspiracy is a secret act requiring two or more people to participate.

Our lawmakers certainly recognize the existence of conspiracies. They have enacted numerous pieces of legislation which restrict our freedom to participate in them.

This leaves no doubt that the people above suspicion are concerned about the hoi polloi conspiring against them.

There should then be no surprise that the elite are also willing to conspire to maintain their status.

[seadevil]

I said, "Give us a list of concrete, credible, achievable items."

The fact that I used the word "achievable" last in that sentence was no over-sight. I listed those adjectives in order of asending priority. At the moment, probably less than 3 in 10 Americans echo your focus. And absent some cataclysmic event like global, thermonuclear war that kills off about 70% of the population in one whack, your list will continue to remain unrealistic and unachievable. While my sympathies lie in your general direction, your unrealistic idealism is as impractical on this end of the political spectrum as is the idealism on the fringes of the other end of that same spectrum because of the nature and inclinations of the vast majority of the American voting public. Sadly, neither you nor I nor your kids nor mine (and grand-kids probably) will live to see any of your proposed changes.

[libertyman]

I agree w/ you 100%. Americans have been lied to & have become so addicted to Big Government over the last 80 years that I seriously doubt if there is any turning back. This virus has infected even the Republican Party, who @ one time thought government should be limited to only a few things. The American people have been dumbed down regarding constitutional principles that they don't even care.

[ran15]

For many in an organization like that, it is just as you say, they see it as a way to advance their careers.

But organizations are formed in the first place to advance some type of agenda. And they have inner rings, which know more about what is going on. Who allow in only those people who match their agenda, whatever it may be.