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An Interesting Perspective on the Atlanta Murders, aka Where Political Correctness has Taken Us
Quinn and Rose in the Morning, FM 104.9, Pittsburgh, PA ^ | March 15, 2005 | ManHunter

Posted on 03/15/2005 10:56:48 AM PST by ManHunter

Jim Quinn, host of the morning talk show "Quinn and Rose in the Morning, on FM 104.9 in Pittsburgh, as well as a number of other ClearChannel affiliates in Western Pennsylvania, Ohio, and West Virginia, offered an interesting perspective on the murders in Atlanta, the women involved, and the role of political correctness in this entire tragedy.

Quinn posits that, at the beginning of this tragedy is a woman (51 years old, 5' tall, etc.) in a job for which she was not well-suited because of political correctness ("a woman can do anything a man can do"). She was not only placed in that position because of political correctness, but the circumstances in which she found herself - escorting an unbound, civilian-clothed suspect in a violent crime alone - is also the product of political correctness (we cannot prejudice the jury by having the suspect enter the courtroom handcuffed and in an orange suit). As Quinn stated, "she was a woman pretending to be a man."

Conversely, at the end of this tragedy, we find a Christian woman whose husband was brutally murdered behaving "as a woman": nurturing, consoling, cooking, nagging (his words, not mine), etc. and doing so with exceptional bravery and fortitude.

The DA's answer to a question about whether or not a small, female deputy should have been escorting Nichols to the courtroom alone illustrates the fact that the irony of this situation and the influence of political correctness have been lost on the DA: (After a pause, "I believe that a woman can do anything a man can do."

The full commentary can be heard on Quinn's website in the archives for the first hour this morning.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ashleysmith; atlanta; briannichols; jimquinn; murder; pc
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A very interesting take on the events in Atlanta that really made me think. Had a man - or even another remale deputy - been with the deputy who was shot, or had Nichols been bound and in a highly visible and obvious prison uniform, it is quite likely that this tragedy would never have occurred.
1 posted on 03/15/2005 10:56:51 AM PST by ManHunter
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My understanding is that upon entering the courthouse Nichols was in prison garb and handcuffed and was allowed to change into "court clothes", at this point he was transferred to a changing room, the room did not have a slot to unlock the handcuffs so the woman guard had to be in the room with Nichols while he changed, that is where he overtook her and ran unstoppable through the courthouse carrying out his act of killing. The tragedy would not have occurred if a) he was bound and shackled and b) been guarded by a couple of burly men. IMO Nichols would have thought twice about trying to take on two heavyweight men as opposed to a lightweight woman. PC has cost 4 deaths, but the libs must be proud that Nichols was afforded his dignity.


2 posted on 03/15/2005 11:05:58 AM PST by rockabyebaby (What goes around, comes around!)
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To: ManHunter

Its worse than that, this woman didn't even qualify to be in law enforcement, she couldn't shoot a qualifying score with her weapon and a passing score had to be fudged to allow her to keep her job. If she had retained her weapon and had to use it, she couldn't hit the target. And at a height of only 5 feet, her physical stature was below the requirements, should there be an altercation. She should have been at a desk shufflin papers instead of escorting desperate convicts.


3 posted on 03/15/2005 11:08:44 AM PST by aspiring.hillbilly
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To: ManHunter

I have been struck by how ready the MSM has been to continuously point out that his capture was brought about by, "a woman," as though that was a key component in his return him to custody; however, few if any media outlets readily define her as, "a Christian," and try to downplay the role her Christianity played in disarming the fugitive.


4 posted on 03/15/2005 11:13:52 AM PST by Joe 6-pack ("It takes a big man to cry, but it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man.")
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To: ManHunter; mhking

Bump & ping


5 posted on 03/15/2005 11:23:34 AM PST by G.Mason ("People lose teeth talking like that. If you want to hang around, you'll be polite" : Sam Spade)
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To: ManHunter
I can't tell you how satisfying it is to know that 4 people ended up being murdered so that this POS sodomite didn't have to be escorted into a (pc) court of law (LOL) in an embarrassing fashion.

Are "political correctness" and "foolishness" synonyms?
They ought to be...
7 posted on 03/15/2005 11:27:23 AM PST by odoso (Millions for charity, but not one penny for tribute!)
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To: ManHunter

Interesting. I dont think the main problem was her being a woman - I've seen some female gym teachers that couldve handled this guy - rather it was her small staure, and her lack of proficiency with a firearm that seem more important.


8 posted on 03/15/2005 11:31:42 AM PST by free_european
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To: aspiring.hillbilly

I agree with your post, however, due to the "women's movement" the standards have been lowered, >(sarcasm) it's more important to have gender equality than to worry about the safety of others.


9 posted on 03/15/2005 11:35:21 AM PST by rockabyebaby (What goes around, comes around!)
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To: odoso

Goodness, is Brian Nichols gay?


10 posted on 03/15/2005 11:38:05 AM PST by gaspar.manny
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To: ManHunter

How did someone 5'tall get hired? Most PD's have a minimum requirement--my PD was 5'6" to get in. There's enough blame in this one to cover many people.


11 posted on 03/15/2005 11:41:40 AM PST by pankot
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"Goodness, is Brian Nichols gay?"

He was in court to begin with because he'd raped and sodomized a woman.


12 posted on 03/15/2005 11:42:27 AM PST by odoso (Millions for charity, but not one penny for tribute!)
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I've seen some female gym teachers that couldve handled this guy

No way. I am a very strong woman, stronger than most women, yet still not as strong as the average man.This guy was unusually big and strong. You do not know any females who could have handled this man.

13 posted on 03/15/2005 11:47:24 AM PST by Zevonismymuse
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Ever seen some of the female bodybuilders nowadays? The gym teacher I was thinking of was an amateur weightlifter who worked at a school a friend of mine taught math at. She was a monster.


14 posted on 03/15/2005 11:51:16 AM PST by free_european
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She was a monster.

A monster, but not a man. Women body builders are all show and no go.

I arm wrestled an NCAA bronze medalist weight lifter and beat her easily. She cried.

15 posted on 03/15/2005 12:00:26 PM PST by Zevonismymuse
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To: ManHunter

Don't forget the facts that:

1) The woman officer followed procedure and locked up her gun before uncuffing the perp. When the perp overpowered her, he just took her keys to get the gun. He was now armed.

2) This whole thing was caught on video - the officers who should have been watching it and protecting the elderly woman officer ... evidently weren't.

3) There was a silent alarm in the judge's chamber. The clerk pushed it to get help. It took 10 minutes for someone to respond - and then, the responder evidently did't take the panic button seriously, because the responder was overpowered by the perp, giving the perp another weapon.

I think I saw this once on the Keystone Kops.


16 posted on 03/15/2005 12:01:21 PM PST by Mack the knife
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To: Zevonismymuse

Ok, I stand corrected. She sure as hell looked tough though! :)


17 posted on 03/15/2005 12:08:12 PM PST by free_european
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To: Mack the knife

I'm quite sure that, once all the facts are out in this case, the Atlanta PD and Gwinnett County SO are going to look like the Keystone Cops. Unfortunately, in this case, people had to really die to make the "comedy".


18 posted on 03/15/2005 12:08:29 PM PST by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired...)
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To: Mack the knife

Please don't call the woman officer "elderly." It makes me feel ancient.


19 posted on 03/15/2005 12:11:31 PM PST by joylyn
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To: ManHunter

The lessons are there for those willing to see.


20 posted on 03/15/2005 12:12:23 PM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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