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Hand-wringing over incarceration won't help city's young black men
Baltimore Sun ^ | March 19, 2005 | Gregory Kane

Posted on 03/19/2005 4:08:10 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

..... There are, no doubt, young white men -- and Hispanic men and men of other races and ethnic groups -- who are in prison, in jail or on probation or parole in Baltimore. But there's a difference between them and young black men: It's assumed the nonblack ones have some responsibility for, and control over, their actions.

If that's not a classic, textbook definition of racism, I don't know what to call it. And it's an insidious racism that will, in the long run, hurt the young black men those JPI bleeding hearts think they are helping.

"The system is to blame" is not what these young men need to hear. They need a stern rebuke, some scolding, perhaps a foot up their derrieres and some sage advice about getting their acts together. And they should definitely be reminded that being in jail or in prison is neither a rite of passage nor a cultural imperative for young black men.

But I've overheard that discussion a dozen times if I've heard it once. Two or more young black men in Baltimore -- on a bus, at a bus stop, on the subway, on a corner -- talking about themselves and their friends. Which ones are in jail. Which ones are out. Who did what to get sent up this time.

This is said loudly, so that folks standing nearby can hear it. There's no shame. There's no embarrassment. Going to jail or prison, these young black men figure, is something they're supposed to do.

You'll forgive me if I refuse to blame police, lawmakers, prosecutors, state and city government and judges for this sorry state of affairs. This sounds more like a failure of way too many families to instill proper values in their sons, nephews and cousins......

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: black; blackmales; crime; education; parenting; racism
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

What is "JPI"?


21 posted on 03/19/2005 5:18:01 AM PST by DryProng
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To: hoosier_RW_conspirator
Cool! I just mentioned Gangsta Culture on a another thread a few minutes ago.
22 posted on 03/19/2005 5:22:48 AM PST by benjaminjjones
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To: daddyOwe

"Exactly, I have talked to white boys that were in prison. They said that the blacks would say the only reason they are in prison is because they are black. I guess committing a crime has nothing to do with it."

Spoken like a honkey racist. Don't you know that blacks are not capable of committing crimes. It's that whites purposely make common black behavior illegal to keep them down and lock them up. Besides, since society is so racist, blacks are entitled to do whatever they want because they are so oppressed. I suggest you take some black studies courses so you can be edumacated.


23 posted on 03/19/2005 5:24:03 AM PST by BadAndy (Specializing in unnecessarily harsh comments.)
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To: squirt-gun
"We all know that ALL people are created intellectually, morally, physically, and emotionally equal."

1st Commandment of the Liberal Religion?

24 posted on 03/19/2005 5:25:41 AM PST by litehaus
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

i live in a neighborhood that includes just about everything: immigrants; white and black professionals, blue collar, and service workers; mexican blue collar workers; etc.

the impediment that i see for young black men is their peer group.

if black parents keep them out of these negative peer groups, then the guys do ok.

amazing is that several white neer-do-wells idolize the black neer-do-wells and hang out with them on the streets. none wants to work.


25 posted on 03/19/2005 5:36:49 AM PST by ken21 ( today's luxury development. tomorrow's slum.)
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To: BadAndy

as a former prosecutor, and now in private practice, I have spoken to a goodly number of young black males, both while prosecuting them, and when defending them. And, almost to a man, all of them had the mentality that anything was OK, because "whitey" owed them for past oppression. That since "whitey" enslaved the black man, that "whitey" owed them. So, since "whitey" owed them, then whatever belonged to a "white" man, was owed to a black man, so he could take it if he wanted. Or he could assault or kill the white man because he, the black man, was owed something. That it was OK to sell drugs, because, well, they were owed something. And try as you might, you couldn't reason with them. So many of these young blacks still see themselves as being in slavery. Metaphoric, but enslaved nonetheless. You want to see what the mindset of the young black man is...rent and watch the first season of HBO's "The Wire". Having been involved in major drug investigations in a large black community, that show is the closest to being an accurate depiction of reality as any I have seen.


27 posted on 03/19/2005 5:53:09 AM PST by yukong
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To: litehaus
"We all know that ALL people are created intellectually, morally, physically, and emotionally equal."

1st Commandment of the Liberal Religion?

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No, I think it's: "I am thy god. Thou shalt have none other before or beside me."

28 posted on 03/19/2005 5:53:23 AM PST by yankeedame ("Born with the gift of laughter and a sense that the world was mad.")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The author almost hits a home run. What he doesn't emntion is that probably 95% of the victims of these young black male criminals are also black..


29 posted on 03/19/2005 6:03:28 AM PST by ken5050 (The Dem party is as dead as the NHL)
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To: yukong

"So, since "whitey" owed them, then whatever belonged to a "white" man, was owed to a black man, so he could take it if he wanted. Or he could assault or kill the white man because he, the black man, was owed something."

It may be coincidental but the rise of this attitude seems associated with the spread of black studies programs. These seem designed to promote black victimhood, racial animosity against whites and anti American attitudes.


30 posted on 03/19/2005 6:11:17 AM PST by BadAndy (Specializing in unnecessarily harsh comments.)
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To: BadAndy

Spoken like a honkey racist. Don't you know that blacks are not capable of committing crimes. It's that whites purposely make common black behavior illegal to keep them down and lock them up. Besides, since society is so racist, blacks are entitled to do whatever they want because they are so oppressed. I suggest you take some black studies courses so you can be edumacated.

I do hope this is satire. I am not used to people calling me names. Oh wait . That happens all the time.


31 posted on 03/19/2005 6:12:01 AM PST by daddyOwe ("a man is rich in proportion to the number of things he can afford to leave alone")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Most of these young blacks have never met their fathers. Their mothers have several children with several men. Where are these boys supposed to learn values? The schools are forbidden to talk about values, and I haven't a clue as to what black preachers are talking about these days, but it obviously isn't getting through to the young hoods.


32 posted on 03/19/2005 6:18:08 AM PST by kittymyrib
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To: kittymyrib

Nanny government has infected many generations.

People like Jesse Jackson, still profit.


33 posted on 03/19/2005 6:40:21 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: CBart95

Did you actually read the article?


34 posted on 03/19/2005 6:52:18 AM PST by thathamiltonwoman
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To: libs_kma

http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/html/wanted.html

25 Most Wanted, everyone is either Black or Hispanic! Where are the White criminals or is the NYC population mostly Black and Hispanic today?


36 posted on 03/19/2005 8:03:45 AM PST by B4Ranch (The Minutemen will be doing a 30 day Neighborhood Watch Program in Cochise County, Arizona.)
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To: wolfpat

"Rap music" is an oxymoron.>>>>

Similiar to "fingernails on a chalkboard" music!


37 posted on 03/19/2005 8:36:10 AM PST by RipSawyer ("Embed" Michael Moore with the 82nd airborne.)
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To: B4Ranch
Wow! That's amazing.

I want to scream when African Americans point out that "most of the people on death row are black". And then they demand that we do something about it, like get more whites on death row. Sheesh!

38 posted on 03/19/2005 8:45:55 AM PST by REPANDPROUDOFIT
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To: B4Ranch
RE: post #36. Amazing!

I want to scream when African Americans point out that "most of the people on death row are black". And then they demand that we do something about it, like get more whites on death row. Sheesh!

39 posted on 03/19/2005 8:48:22 AM PST by REPANDPROUDOFIT
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To: REPANDPROUDOFIT

My Black friends aren't worried about ethnic balance on death row. But then they are all hard working very self responsible people who are raising their families to be the same way.


40 posted on 03/19/2005 8:58:30 AM PST by B4Ranch (The Minutemen will be doing a 30 day Neighborhood Watch Program in Cochise County, Arizona.)
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