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One for the mill. Saved $900,000 on Microsoft licenses alone already, and they're only about halfway there.
1 posted on 03/23/2005 2:10:09 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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She says that the "The Open Zone" is the second most popular destination on their intranet.

They need to log that time against the conversion costs. That being said, the costs shouldn't be much higher than were required of corporate users when they had to convert from Word Perfect to Word when Novell bought Word Perfect and proceeded to run it into the ground.

2 posted on 03/23/2005 2:21:00 PM PST by PAR35
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3 posted on 03/23/2005 2:31:19 PM PST by rdb3 (I will be as harsh as truth, and as uncompromising as justice.)
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To: antiRepublicrat

Novell bought WordPerfect. At the time WP was the best wordprocessing software. Novell didn't update it, and allowed it to sink into near obscurity, as MS moved and promoted Word.

IIRC, Novell also bought PC Tools, an excellent DOS-based tuning utility program. PC Tools no longer exists.

Novell pushing Linux? Look out Linux!!!!


4 posted on 03/23/2005 2:37:33 PM PST by TomGuy (America: Best friend or worst enemy. Choose wisely.)
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It'll never work! They're all commies!

I tried that there linux once and my computer blew up and killed my dog.

It's not ready for prime time! The Chinese use it! Linus Torvalds is a commie!

To be safe, everyone should buy and install Microsoft® Windows.

mv shills/* /dev/null


7 posted on 03/23/2005 3:09:06 PM PST by Nick Danger (You can stick a fork in the Mullahs... they're done)
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To: antiRepublicrat

The downside is that their established base in the field consists of Novell file and print servers and Windows desktops. They've gone an amazing job of integrating Linux with Netware (OES is spooky-cool) but that's server side. What will make them or break them is penetration into the business office distribution, and that is a notoriously conservative market. It is also Microsoft's jugular vein, and Bill's boys won't be taking that lying down.


11 posted on 03/23/2005 5:32:29 PM PST by Billthedrill
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A chink in the Microsoft Monolith PING...Novell switching from Microsoft to Linux... only peripherally associated with Macs but of interest in that switching is happening...

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13 posted on 03/23/2005 6:00:23 PM PST by Swordmaker
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I was a CNE for 7 years, kept up my certification continuously from 3.x (I think I started at 3.x) through 5.x.

Didn't take the 6.x test last year because I hadn't had any Novell clients for at least a year, they had all switched over to MS Servers.

Novell File & Print servers were great, they ran twice as fast on half the hardware, rarely crashed or had to be rebooted, and it didn't matter what desktop client you used.

Novell Directory Service (NDS) was a true innovation. The behind-the-scenes technical aspects blew me away when I went through the training. It took years for Microsoft to mimic (steal) NDS and come out with Active Directory.

I think what killed Novell was the email client, Groupwise. Outlook was just much better (at least that was the customer perception).

That plus Marketing. I used to get so pissed off when Microsoft was advertising like heck and I'd NEVER see a Novell ad.

Also, I think the top management was screwed up (I think they went through a couple of bleeped up CEOs).

Over 7 years, I figure I got my 6K initial training investment back (more if you count ongoing recertification training).

It just pisses off that I'm going to have to spend another 6K (or more now) to get my Microsoft certification (MCSE) in what I see as an inferior product.

It's going to be like going back to grammar school after a great summer vacation. Sucks to be me.

14 posted on 03/23/2005 7:15:43 PM PST by benjaminjjones
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This is hardly a landmark story, or even newsworthy. Novell bought SuSe Linux, it's only natural that they'd do this. Novell Linux for the desktop is spectacular. I'd argue it is easier to use than MS Windows (I'm an IT pro).

Microsoft migrated hotmail.com off FreeBSD and onto Windows 2000 Server after they acquired them. Big whoop!

17 posted on 03/23/2005 8:40:01 PM PST by xrp (Executing assigned posting duties flawlessly -- ZERO mistakes)
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Longtime Microsoft partner Novell is migrating all of its own 6,000 Windows desktops to Linux.

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20 posted on 03/23/2005 10:43:16 PM PST by SunkenCiv (last updated my FreeRepublic profile on Sunday, March 13, 2005.)
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Of course Novell could save some money by deploying their own product instead of an external one. That's like saying Microsoft can save money by deploying Windows internally instead of Unix. But Novell Linux ISN'T free for anyone else, something you forgot to mention.

http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.aspx?EDC=711601

http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.aspx?EDC=679344


22 posted on 03/24/2005 5:36:04 AM PST by Golden Eagle (Team America)
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