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When Did Michael Shiavo First Start Trying to Kill Terri?
http://www.bannerofliberty.com/BOL-05MQC/3-23-2005.1.html ^ | March 23, 2005 | By: Mary Mostert

Posted on 03/26/2005 1:00:05 PM PST by BellStar

Because I try to track down facts before I write about a subject, I have not written about Terri Shiavo and the battle over her condition. What actually happened to Terri back in 1990 that caused her to be the topic of world conversation today? Before we decide to permanently dispose of her, shouldn’t we first find out how she got into this predicament?

Well, she collapsed, we are told by her husband Michael, in 1990 and was taken to the hospital . Some stories say she had a heart attack. Other stories, including a medical report by Dr. William Hammesfahr, a world-reknowned neurologist, totally refute any heart attack. Hammesfahr reported:

“Ms Schiavo was in her usual state of good health until 2/25/90, when her husband reported that he was awakened from sleep approximately 6 Am by her falling. He reports that she was unresponsive. "Paramedics were called, and aggressive resuscitation was performed with 7 defibrillations en route. “In the Emergency Room, a possible diagnosis of heart attack was briefly entertained, but then dismissed after blood chemistries and serial EKG's did not show evidence of a heart attack.”

Some reports guess that she collapsed due to an effort to lose weight – although, she was not at the time overweight. Hammesfahr’s report stated:

“The patient had a difficult hospital course with the development of poorly controlled seizures and prolonged coma state requiring, for a time, ventilator support. However, the staff noted improvement, and it was recommended by several physicians that she be discharged to an intensive rehabilitation center.” In 1992, Michael Shiavo sued for malpractice and won over a $1 million. He was personally awarded $300,000 for his “loss” and $700,000 for Terri’s rehabilitation and care for the rest of her natural life. However, the therapy, after the award, was not approved by Michael Shiavo and she was confined to a nursing home after the settlement.

It was after the settlement that Michael first claimed that Terri had previously stated that she didn’t want to be kept alive by artificial means — a statement he never mentioned during the malpractice trial. He has never produced any written proof that Terri said that.

Beginning almost immediately after receiving the malpractice funds, Michael Shiavo, as Terri’s legal guardian, began to refuse approval for ANY therapy or rehabilitation efforts and she has been confined to bed.

Since 1995, Michael Schiavo has lived openly with a girlfriend, Jodi Centonze, with whom he has two children, while remaining legally married to Terri, as well as being her legal her guardian.

In 1998, Michael Schiavo petitioned the court to have Terri’s feeding tube removed. In 2003, Michael Schiavo’s attorneys reported that the trust fund was down to $50,000, with more than $430,000 going to “pay for court costs associated with her husband’s legal battle to remove his wife’s feeding tube.” Meanwhile, Medicaid helps to pay Terri’s $5,000-a-month nursing costs at a hospice in Pinellas Park, Florida. 13

During this time period, Terri’s parents have attempted to gain guardianship over their daughter. During the legal battles that have ensued, in 2003 a a deposition was taken from Dr. William Campbell Walker, a radiologist, concerning a bone scan the hospital did on Terri in 1991. That bone scan revealed what Dr. Walker reported at the time as “compression fracture in the 19 vertebral body of the spine.”

For seven years as Terri has been consistently denied rehabilitation treatment that, according to several doctors, would have significantly improved her chances of recovery, Michael spent her money awarded for her therapy on lawyers trying to get her starved to death. Several doctors pointed out, including Dr. Hammesfahr, that Terri not only CAN swallow on her own, but frequently DOES swallow and pictures shown clearly indicate, as Hammesfahr and other testify, that she can and does respond to voice commands and particularly to her parents.

This would indicate that she is NOT in what the State of Florida defines as a “vegetative” state. It also makes me wonder, now that the feeding tube is removed, if any effort to help her swallow water or food is being made today, or whether under the court order spoon feeding also has been outlawed? Terri's parents, if they just came and got her and took her home, I guess would be arrested for kidnapping under Florida's legal system.

At this point, the legal system of Florida has, in the words of one legal observer, created the “framework for legal euthanasia.” Of course, euthanasia is technically the practice of killing someone painlessly because they prefer death to life for whatever reason. I would not classify starvation as a “painless” way to die.

Dr. Hammesfahr stated in his report:

“In the spring of 2000, three physicians, including Dr. Jay Carpenter, who is a former Chief of Medicine at Morton Plant Hospital, filed affidavits after observing Ms. Schiavo. All three physicians stated that it is visually apparent that Ms Schiavo is able to swallow and, in fact, does swallow her own saliva. “The patient continued with no physical therapy, communication or speech therapy, or routine medical screening evaluations and treatment such as dental care, mammography, gynecological exams or pap smears during this time."

Under these conditions and questions, it would appear to me that Terri SHOULD have a totally different guardian, such as her parents, until some questions are answered about the spinal and other injuries that appeared on her bone scan a decade ago. Why is it that a man who clearly wants his wife dead, cannot explain how she actually got into the state she is in, or produce ANY proof, other than his unsubstantiated words, that she would want to die, is being unquestioningly defended by the Florida courts?

Increasingly, it appears to me, that Terri would have gotten better care had her husband never won that malpractice suit and been given $1 million to spend – much of it on lawyers to legally kill off his wife.

It all makes me wonder just when Michael Schiavo made his first effort to kill Terri? Was it before or after she ended up in the hospital with an unexplained problem that put her in a coma?


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To: Matthew316

dont know......but at least you are polite unlike some here who are so emotion filled they are throwin invective and Nazi crap around like it was DU.......anyway, to answer your question.....don't know, but I think Michael should have given up custody a long time ago......I think he actually did alot for her early on, and now, well, he should have just moved on and given her back to the parents.....that is my opinion of him....he has not endured himself with many......


41 posted on 03/26/2005 1:47:25 PM PST by NorCalRepub
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To: Wally_Kalbacken
Or HereTubePeople!
42 posted on 03/26/2005 1:47:58 PM PST by BellStar ("A human being, not a vegetable, is slowly dying")
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To: Krodg

I HAD NO GOOD ANSWER AS YOUNG LIBERAL STUDENT. TODAY AS A OLDER MATURE CONSERVATIVE ADULT UNDERSTAND. WHEN WE ARE NO LONGER A BLESSING AND ADDING VALUE TO OUR SOCIETY IT IS TIME TO MOVE ON


God didn't put us here primarily to add value to our society but for His pleasure and glory. He can move us on when He wants feeding tube or no.


43 posted on 03/26/2005 1:50:49 PM PST by freedomfiter2
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To: NorCalRepub
he has not endured himself with many"Most especially not the

Tube People!

45 posted on 03/26/2005 1:51:38 PM PST by BellStar ("A human being, not a vegetable, is slowly dying")
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To: CHICAGOFARMER

I DRIVE A DODGE STRATUS!!!!!


46 posted on 03/26/2005 1:53:00 PM PST by Texas Federalist (If you get in bed with the government, you'll get more than a good night's sleep." R. Reagan)
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To: chgomac

Crandon is the one that gets me.Dr.Death himself.


47 posted on 03/26/2005 1:55:04 PM PST by smoothsailing (Eagles Up !!)
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To: FormerACLUmember
>> Terri fits the profile of the battered wife perfectly. An autopsy is needed to document the long term injuries.
>> The murderer Michael plans to hide the evidence, ordering an immediate cremation...

I'm sure you are RIGHT.

But look what CBS 60 minutes is preparing to air tomorrow to refute that...


48 posted on 03/26/2005 1:55:21 PM PST by Future Useless Eater (FreedomLoving_Engineer)
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To: CHICAGOFARMER

I'M A DIVISION MANAGER!!!! I CAN DO 100 PUSH UPS IN TWENTY MINUTES!!!


49 posted on 03/26/2005 1:56:00 PM PST by Texas Federalist (If you get in bed with the government, you'll get more than a good night's sleep." R. Reagan)
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To: Future Useless Eater

That letter from the Democrat National Committee, oops I meant Terri Schiavo, sure looks authentic.


51 posted on 03/26/2005 1:58:17 PM PST by FormerACLUmember (Honoring Saint Jude's assistance every day.)
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To: Matthew316

yes......exactly.......you said it well. I don't like a damned thing going on but we need to pray for "acceptance" and do what we can for future laws etc.....hell, I didn't like the verdict in the OJ Simpson case, but I wasn't going to hunt him down and kill him....


52 posted on 03/26/2005 1:58:37 PM PST by NorCalRepub
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To: Bob
DNA Evidence could prove this of an alleged adulterer is in fact an adulterer.

This is funny but some how does not make me laugh.

53 posted on 03/26/2005 1:59:16 PM PST by BellStar ("A human being, not a vegetable, is slowly dying")
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To: Matthew316
Matthew,

It doesn't matter what you want.

It doesn't matter what I want.

The only thing that matters is what Terri wanted!!!

The husband and the parents have a bitter dispute about what Terri's wishes were. And they have battled it out in the courts for many years. The courts have the job of weighing the evidence on both sides and coming to a conclusion on what Terri's final wishes were.

Do you find it inconceivable that a person would not want to continue to exist in a vegetative state, unable to think, let alone interact with the environment?

How about you?

How about simple compassion for your loved ones??? Would you like your spouse, children, parents to suffer the agony that the Schindlers & Schiavos have endured???

Wouldn't it be generous and compassionate of you to want to move on to the next world and let your survivors move on with their lives?

Would you put your family through this kind of horror?

-- Dennis Mosher
54 posted on 03/26/2005 2:02:53 PM PST by Dennis Mosher
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To: thinkingman129
"Unfortunately she (purposely?) left out the basis for the malpractice suit (which must have been affirmed, since there was indeed a hefty award to MS). "

malpractice awards do not have to have any merit. The jury is not 12 medical experts, but 12 civilians not smart enough to get off the jury of educated enough to be thrown off. Often juries give hefty awards because of slick-meister lawyers and sad cases that may or may not have anything to do with real malpractice. Unfortunately too often juries are incapable of understanding the medical science to make intelligent verdicts-think OJ
55 posted on 03/26/2005 2:03:25 PM PST by avile
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To: skip_intro

Please cite your basis for condemnation of the neurologist who found Terri had not had a heart attack. Link please.


56 posted on 03/26/2005 2:03:33 PM PST by Twinkie
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To: BellStar
You may find this interesting

Time line

57 posted on 03/26/2005 2:04:37 PM PST by just me
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To: FormerACLUmember
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1371429/posts
58 posted on 03/26/2005 2:05:26 PM PST by Ladysmith (Wisconsin Hunter Shootings: If you want on/off the WI Hunters ping list, please let me know.)
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To: CHICAGOFARMER
"IF YOU WOULD GET OFF TERRI BACK SHE WOULD DIE IN PEACE "

This isn't just about Terri. My main concern is about the court system.

59 posted on 03/26/2005 2:05:57 PM PST by Steve Van Doorn
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