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Nazis Used Starvation to Kill
newsmax.com ^ | Saturday, March 26, 2005 6:22 p.m. EST

Posted on 03/26/2005 4:23:47 PM PST by InvisibleChurch

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To: isthisnickcool
Has she ever even had an electroencephalograph? Hmm? If she has not why hasn't "hubby" allowed one? Hmm?

NO. She NEVER had a Brainscan/EEG(?) or MRI! Just heard it on tv finally. IF people knew the facts they would be outraged.

141 posted on 03/26/2005 5:21:58 PM PST by Pillows
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To: MsLady
Just so you get a clue.

just so YOU get a clue...this isnt about abortion

142 posted on 03/26/2005 5:22:02 PM PST by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: zarf

To be shown and to see are two very different things. It is clear that 'Judge' Greer has been shown all the facts, but has not seen anything since he long ago decided that Terri Schaivo was in a Persistent Vegetative State (as defined by a since-revised medical definition) and that (on the basis of her husband's testimony and that of his brother and sister-in-law) that in her youth TS had evinced a wish not to be maintained by extrordinary means.

The rest of the judiciary has been defending his (and their) imperial position in our society, as the one branch of government without any check on its power.

Read the history of the case--judges both state and federal have disregarded the plain sense and legislative intent of at least three statutes (two state and one federal) to bring us to this point.

By the structure of our appelate system, only Judge Greer has had any obligation to consider facts, or rather he and the federal judge who was bidden by federal statute to consider the facts of the case de novo, and proceded to violate the plain meaning of the new federal law by refusing to hear the case.

I think we need to move to a system where the infirmed have the same right to have their case considered by a jury of their peers as have those accused of a crime, or the disputants in most civil cases.

What jury of ordinary folk would have sided with the say-so of an adulterous husband who stood to reap a financial windfall from his wife's demise? What jury of ordinary would have allowed a 'guardian' to place an infrimed woman in an environment without any sensory stimulation (no music, flowers, drawn shades), and denied medical tests to fully determine what she was capable of? What jury of ordinary folk, even if they regarded removal of a feeding tube as ending 'extrordinary medical intervention' would also forbid the succor of an infirmed woman with ice-chips, a glass of water, or jello?

We should also impeach judges who disregard the plain sense of laws for judicial misconduct, and perhaps consider abolishing a court here and there when its judges decide to make law rather than interpret it, thereby sending all of the judges on it back to private law practice. (We can't do that to the SCOTUS, but a few such actions would put them on notice, too.)


143 posted on 03/26/2005 5:22:45 PM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will understand. . .)
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans

If she must die,she should be done in quickly.


144 posted on 03/26/2005 5:22:56 PM PST by JOHANNES801
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To: Numbers Guy
And not only that, but kill them in a very torturous manner. No humane quick painless morphine cocktail, instead they want to let them slowly starve and dehydrate over a 10-day period. That's because they're so *compassionate* and *caring*.

It took my cousin three and a half weeks to die when her feeding tube was removed. She looked like the picture posted above. It was horrid.

145 posted on 03/26/2005 5:23:03 PM PST by CajunConservative
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To: InvisibleChurch
The internationally-accepted Geneva Convention – which identifies starvation as a war crime – also will have to be rewritten. Ditto for many statements made by reputable organizations – many of them liberal, who have condemned the practice for decades.

This is so sad. I pray God will take vengeance on all who have participated in killing this woman. Vengeance belongs to God, he will repay.

146 posted on 03/26/2005 5:23:16 PM PST by SwordofTruth (God is good all the time.)
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To: TonyM
The same could be asked of a newborn infant. So what is next, a new form of post parum abortion by starvation?

Comparing a brain dead woman with no hope of getting better/healthier to that of a infant?...yeah...that makes sense

147 posted on 03/26/2005 5:23:29 PM PST by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: InvisibleChurch

Anne Frank and her sister Margot were weak from starvation during their last days in their concentration camp, which made them susceptible to typhus. A witness who survived reported that the sisters were seen holding onto each other and crying. That was the last time they were seen alive.


148 posted on 03/26/2005 5:23:41 PM PST by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.d)
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans
this isnt about abortion

No, it's about killing those whom we find less than human in a very painful way, that's nothing like abortion [/sarcasm]

149 posted on 03/26/2005 5:23:52 PM PST by Numbers Guy
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To: nicmarlo

Interesting scenario.

Is Terri Schiavo being treated in a medical facility?

Are the people who work there used to this sort of thing?

Other than a book of fiction or a movie, I never had to think about it before.


150 posted on 03/26/2005 5:24:26 PM PST by Radix (I could go on and on.........)
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans
Who cares weather she'll be able to ever do any of those things. SHE IS LIVING, BREATHING, HUMAN BEING MADE IN THE IMAGE OF GOD. She deserves our care and protection.

Oh, and by the way, do you thing it would be ok if I starve my retarded daughter to death? She's never going to get any better. I mean after all, she's just a useless eater. Maybe you'd like to do it for me? *sarcasm off*

151 posted on 03/26/2005 5:24:46 PM PST by MsLady (Presidential prayer team)
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans

You are just so incredibly vulgar. Why don't you just call it a night? You aren't doing yourself any favors.


152 posted on 03/26/2005 5:24:59 PM PST by ladylib
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To: Numbers Guy

less than human? Shes dead....we bury the dead


153 posted on 03/26/2005 5:25:14 PM PST by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: InvisibleChurch
Starvation is an ugly, inhuman process. If anyone leaks a picture of Terry Shiavo, the Left will be discredited forever.

And the pathetic morons actually want to take that bet.

154 posted on 03/26/2005 5:25:37 PM PST by Reactionary
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans
Comparing a brain dead woman with no hope of getting better/healthier

1) She's not brain dead. Stop lying.

2) "no hope of getting better/healthier". That describes just a lot of people over the age of 40, other than those just starting to get over the flu.

155 posted on 03/26/2005 5:26:04 PM PST by Numbers Guy
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To: JOHANNES801
If she must die,she should be done in quickly.

Agreed, they shoukd just pump her full of morphine instead of drawing it out the way they are, she cant feel anything so just giver her a OD and let her rest in peace

156 posted on 03/26/2005 5:26:27 PM PST by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans
yeah and maybe she could jump out of bed and start singing "New york, New York" ...if she werent brain dead...but she is

Can you provide a wave file of you singing NYNY? We may need to do a quick evaluation.
157 posted on 03/26/2005 5:26:32 PM PST by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans

You must hate the world the way you post. I pity you.


158 posted on 03/26/2005 5:27:02 PM PST by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: MsLady
Oh, and by the way, do you thing it would be ok if I starve my retarded daughter to death? She's never going to get any better. I mean after all, she's just a useless eater. Maybe you'd like to do it for me?

Been studying melodrama at the community college have we?

159 posted on 03/26/2005 5:27:34 PM PST by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: InvisibleChurch
Confounding all conventional wisdom and human experience, many liberal groups and even some medical experts have argued for Terri Schiavo’s death.

Once they saw the Bush brothers wanted to spare her life, many liberal groups decided she should die.

It conformed to conventional wisdom and human experience.

160 posted on 03/26/2005 5:27:40 PM PST by af_vet_1981
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