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Minutemen to cover larger area of border than originally planned
www.americanpatrol.com/ ^ | March 26, 2005 | americanpatrol staff

Posted on 03/27/2005 6:11:19 AM PST by B4Ranch

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Evidently the Minuteman Project has more volunteers than they are letting us know about.
1 posted on 03/27/2005 6:11:20 AM PST by B4Ranch
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To: B4Ranch

I just wonder how this project will do in a couple years...seriously....

should be interesting to watch....


2 posted on 03/27/2005 6:13:13 AM PST by MikefromOhio (Terri is going to die and then the mob is going to blame both Bush brothers. Realism is dead on FR)
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To: B4Ranch

Any word on how this is working out?


3 posted on 03/27/2005 6:13:46 AM PST by randog (What the....?!)
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To: B4Ranch

Had an interesting news story here on Texas cable channel.
They said that during Holy Week Mexican Nationalists come across the border to shop at a mall in San Antonio.
But they said due to the "TIGHT BORDER CONTROL" (HUH?)
they were concerned there wouldnt be as many shoppers this year. (always about money)

Tight border control? News to me!


4 posted on 03/27/2005 6:14:54 AM PST by stopem (Support the troops yellow ribbon purse-key-holders.)
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To: MikeinIraq
how this project will do in a couple years

It won't last that long.

5 posted on 03/27/2005 6:15:32 AM PST by ASA Vet (Vigilant Always)
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To: B4Ranch

6 posted on 03/27/2005 6:17:40 AM PST by peyton randolph (Warning! It is illegal to fatwah a camel in all 50 states)
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To: Spiff; HiJinx; Marine Inspector; JackelopeBreeder; Travis McGee; Happy2BMe; Squantos; ...

ping to some good news!


7 posted on 03/27/2005 6:17:42 AM PST by B4Ranch (The Minutemen will be doing a 30 day Neighborhood Watch Program in Cochise County, Arizona.)
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To: ASA Vet

you think?

How long do you think it would last?

I figured it would, so long as there isnt any violence or lynchings (for lack of a better term), it wouldnt be stopped for a while.....


8 posted on 03/27/2005 6:19:08 AM PST by MikefromOhio (Terri is going to die and then the mob is going to blame both Bush brothers. Realism is dead on FR)
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To: B4Ranch

From what I've gathered about the Minutemen, so far, is that they're a bunch of good, and well intentioned, people who are doing a necessary job.

That being said there are people just waiting for an accident to happen that can be blamed on the Minutemen. If some illegal Mexican winds up as coyote bait we can be sure the Minutemen will be blamed for it.


9 posted on 03/27/2005 6:22:17 AM PST by Noachian (To Control the Judiciary The People Must First Control The Congress)
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To: randog

I've heard through unofficial sources that there has been lots of observer training going on prior to the 4/1 official startup date.


10 posted on 03/27/2005 6:22:56 AM PST by B4Ranch (The Minutemen will be doing a 30 day Neighborhood Watch Program in Cochise County, Arizona.)
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To: MikeinIraq

Watch for the drug runners to murder some illegal crossers and try to blame it on the minutemen.


11 posted on 03/27/2005 6:23:00 AM PST by philetus (What goes around comes around)
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To: B4Ranch

These people have to be stopped before someone gets hurt.


12 posted on 03/27/2005 6:23:48 AM PST by ClintonBeGone (In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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To: philetus

always possible I guess....

the MM will have to be careful. If they run into some drug runners, they will become targets themselves....


13 posted on 03/27/2005 6:23:51 AM PST by MikefromOhio (Terri is going to die and then the mob is going to blame both Bush brothers. Realism is dead on FR)
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To: MikeinIraq
"How long do you think it would last?

I figured it would, so long as there isnt any violence or lynchings (for lack of a better term), it wouldnt be stopped for a while....."

It should last as long as it takes for the Mexican Government to realize the problem is now also their's instead of ours alone.
14 posted on 03/27/2005 6:24:26 AM PST by wmileo
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To: wmileo

yeah but what is your guess on how long that will take? 5 years? 10 years? 20?

Anyone?


15 posted on 03/27/2005 6:26:16 AM PST by MikefromOhio (Terri is going to die and then the mob is going to blame both Bush brothers. Realism is dead on FR)
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To: philetus
Watch for the drug runners to murder some illegal crossers and try to blame it on the minutemen.

What concerns me is the death of some 55 year old anti-immigrant keyboard commando who leaves his trailer to join these minuteman kooks to 'stop dos meheekans.'

16 posted on 03/27/2005 6:26:17 AM PST by ClintonBeGone (In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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To: B4Ranch
I wish them luck and I hope there use extreme caution in who they accept to work with them. There are a lot of people vehemently opposed to their mission. I wouldn't be surprised if some of the volunteers were actually looking to cause problems.
17 posted on 03/27/2005 6:27:32 AM PST by cripplecreek (I'm apathetic but really don't care.)
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To: MikeinIraq
Couple of months I figure. Most Americans don't know or care anything about it.
But they can tell you the latest standings in several sports, or what happened on the latest inane TV show.
America has grown soft and will no longer protect it's borders or citizens.
18 posted on 03/27/2005 6:29:18 AM PST by ASA Vet (Vigilant Always)
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To: B4Ranch
They are getting beat up by the MSM and - gasp - Bush himself, who doesn't understand they are not vigillantes. They are only there to watch, to "spot" illegals and call the locations in to Border Patrol.

They really need a good media guy to get their message out. Hope someone who knows them will advise them of that.

19 posted on 03/27/2005 6:29:25 AM PST by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: ClintonBeGone

The drug runners will be the most serious threat. Busting someones flow of American cash won't be appreciated.


20 posted on 03/27/2005 6:30:10 AM PST by B4Ranch (The Minutemen will be doing a 30 day Neighborhood Watch Program in Cochise County, Arizona.)
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To: B4Ranch
This is like a busy intersection in a city. The cops are too busy to direct traffic so the citizens get out put on fluorescent armbands and get the job done. I love it. With enough volunteers we could once again secure the border.

But wait. Someone politically won't look good. so expect some Washintonian to put a stop to what desperately needs doing. When that happens the proverbial shi... will hit the fan.
21 posted on 03/27/2005 6:30:11 AM PST by rodguy911 (rodguy911:First Let's get rid of the UN and the ACLU,..toss in CAIR as well.)
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To: B4Ranch

bump


22 posted on 03/27/2005 6:32:14 AM PST by Lady Eileen (Where there is Life there is Hope -- TERRI.)
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To: ASA Vet

You got it in a nutshell sad as it may sound.


23 posted on 03/27/2005 6:32:15 AM PST by rodguy911 (rodguy911:First Let's get rid of the UN and the ACLU,..toss in CAIR as well.)
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To: cripplecreek

Evidently there is a good percentage of current and retired police officers amongst the volunteers. Hopefully they will stay alert to that possibility.


24 posted on 03/27/2005 6:32:43 AM PST by B4Ranch (The Minutemen will be doing a 30 day Neighborhood Watch Program in Cochise County, Arizona.)
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To: B4Ranch

You go, guys!


25 posted on 03/27/2005 6:40:42 AM PST by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news)
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To: Noachian

I'm sure that the common vehicles pursuits which result in injuries to the illegals and the coyotes will now be blamed on the MMP.

The fact that these people were being pursued by Border Patrol agents will be minimized.


26 posted on 03/27/2005 6:41:14 AM PST by B4Ranch (The Minutemen will be doing a 30 day Neighborhood Watch Program in Cochise County, Arizona.)
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To: ASA Vet

I dont know...if the people that are doing it are actually commmitted and this isnt some stupid protest organization, it may last a long time. I think it will last a long time as I dont generally question the preserverance and stubborness (its a good thing in this case) of Conservatives over this issue...

like I said though, I Just hope that the MM aren't going to do anything stupid. They may get blamed, but if their leaders have their crap together and if they are well organized, allegations won't stick if they aren't true....

I could really only tell you the standings in one sports league by the way and that is the NHL :-)


27 posted on 03/27/2005 6:43:28 AM PST by MikefromOhio (Terri is going to die and then the mob is going to blame both Bush brothers. Realism is dead on FR)
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To: ClintonBeGone

How do you propose that they be stopped? They are within their legal rights to drive or fly their planes anywhere they want in this country. This is true whether they are monitoring for illegal aliens or migrating ducks. God bless them.


28 posted on 03/27/2005 6:43:44 AM PST by SALChamps03
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To: MikeinIraq
How long do you think it would last?

I think the MM Project is only scheduled to last the 30 days of April.

It is basically a publicity stunt/protest designed to bring attention to President Bush's miserable failure to protect our borders.

29 posted on 03/27/2005 6:44:12 AM PST by jackbenimble (Import the third world, become the third world)
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To: jackbenimble

thats interesting...

I wonder what the outcome will be.....


30 posted on 03/27/2005 6:45:16 AM PST by MikefromOhio (Terri is going to die and then the mob is going to blame both Bush brothers. Realism is dead on FR)
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To: rodguy911

They will have to ignore the Constitution to stop it.


31 posted on 03/27/2005 6:45:20 AM PST by SALChamps03
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To: rodguy911

I'm hoping that this brings the politicians to fund the Border Patrol sufficently allowing them to make the required changes, cameras, personnel, detention centers, etc. to handle the job without this unrequested civilian assistance.


32 posted on 03/27/2005 6:47:57 AM PST by B4Ranch (The Minutemen will be doing a 30 day Neighborhood Watch Program in Cochise County, Arizona.)
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To: jackbenimble

>>think the MM Project is only scheduled to last the 30 days of April.<<

Success could bring about a timeline extension, I suppose and it could bring even more volunteers so this could spread across Texas also.

Right now, nobody knows just what the results will be. I think the organizers are a pretty level headed group that will do their best to keep bad news to a bare minimum.


33 posted on 03/27/2005 6:55:27 AM PST by B4Ranch (The Minutemen will be doing a 30 day Neighborhood Watch Program in Cochise County, Arizona.)
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To: B4Ranch

BTTT


34 posted on 03/27/2005 6:56:10 AM PST by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: SALChamps03
How do you propose that they be stopped? They are within their legal rights to drive or fly their planes anywhere they want in this country. This is true whether they are monitoring for illegal aliens or migrating ducks. God bless them.

Well, if they're tresspassing, they should be arrested. Someone owns the land they'll be trampling on.

35 posted on 03/27/2005 7:00:18 AM PST by ClintonBeGone (In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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To: MikeinIraq
I could really only tell you the standings in one sports league by the way and that is the NHL

The jock straps at work have been unusually quiet about NHL lately.

36 posted on 03/27/2005 7:00:59 AM PST by ASA Vet (Vigilant Always)
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To: B4Ranch

Well, I do know that if work allowed me to take the time, I would find it gratifying to volunteer for a week or two. This must really irritate the no-borders crowd. An added bonus.


37 posted on 03/27/2005 7:00:59 AM PST by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are ignorance, stupidity and hydrogen)
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To: ASA Vet
It won't last that long.

I realize that's just your opinion, but on what do you base it? what will develop?

38 posted on 03/27/2005 7:02:38 AM PST by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are ignorance, stupidity and hydrogen)
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To: ClintonBeGone

>>These people have to be stopped before someone gets hurt.<<

LOL that's exactly how real patriotic american's feel about the illegal entry via our southern border in mass. some have b@lls enough to act on it. now go put your head under the covers again... lol


39 posted on 03/27/2005 7:02:42 AM PST by sdpatriot (remember waco and ruby ridge)
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To: B4Ranch
"Oh sheeeet! The Minutemen are on the border!" LOL
40 posted on 03/27/2005 7:04:41 AM PST by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: Publius6961

Post 18


41 posted on 03/27/2005 7:05:45 AM PST by ASA Vet (Vigilant Always)
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To: ASA Vet

Thank you; Sorry I missed it. I tend to agree with you about the average idle jockstrap, but there seems to me a tad more to this movement.


42 posted on 03/27/2005 7:09:34 AM PST by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are ignorance, stupidity and hydrogen)
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To: Publius6961

i expect to see the feds sent to shut the MM down.. the ATF most probably.. if there is a firearm technicality they can't hang them with - they'll make one up. V Fox has spoken.. and so has Bush. i can't wait to see who's side "conservatives" will take on this. but then they even let Clinton/Reno get away with gastapo tactics.. so...


43 posted on 03/27/2005 7:09:38 AM PST by sdpatriot (remember waco and ruby ridge)
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To: ASA Vet

the jock straps?

give me a week and I will be able to give you a complete breakdown of every division in baseball...I WISH there was hockey because the NBA sucks....


44 posted on 03/27/2005 7:09:44 AM PST by MikefromOhio (Terri is going to die and then the mob is going to blame both Bush brothers. Realism is dead on FR)
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To: ClintonBeGone
Well, if they're trespassing, they should be arrested. Someone owns the land they'll be trampling on.

I think a lot of the ranchers who own the land have invited the Minutemen to patrol their land so then it would not be trespassing.

I believe these ranchers are very frustrated that the illegals trespass at will across their land and are not arrested. Apparently only Americans have to obey the law.

A few of the ranchers have denied them access because they think they will be subject to retribution from the drug and human smugglers after the 30 day project terminates. They know that Americans can't count on the Federal government to protect them from Mexican foreign nationals who regularly invade their property. I don't blame them for being fearful but it is sad and President Bush deserves harsh condemnation for his failure to carry out his Constitutional mandate to protect them.

I think the vast majority of the land is Federal and any citizen, subject to certain fairly nonrestrictive regulations, is free to enter it and camp on it for 30 days at a time.

45 posted on 03/27/2005 7:12:00 AM PST by jackbenimble (Import the third world, become the third world)
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To: SALChamps03
Unfortunately wouldn't be the first time.
46 posted on 03/27/2005 7:14:52 AM PST by rodguy911 (rodguy911:First Let's get rid of the UN and the ACLU,..toss in CAIR as well.)
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To: MikeinIraq

The Olde Media is bearing down on them even before they start. If they get one bad apple, it'll be 24-hour coverage for weeks. Then we'll see a new unconstitutional law banning such organizations in the blink of an eye.


47 posted on 03/27/2005 7:15:56 AM PST by AmericanChef
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To: B4Ranch
That's the logical position but all too often congress has a very skewed priority when it comes to funding matters of Nat. security vs. porkchop projects.
48 posted on 03/27/2005 7:16:32 AM PST by rodguy911 (rodguy911:First Let's get rid of the UN and the ACLU,..toss in CAIR as well.)
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To: ClintonBeGone
I don't think private property trespassing will be a concern. The organizers have been getting written permission from landowners who are fed up with the nightly trampling of their property by the illegals. Many landowners are requesting that MM volunteers 'camp' out with their RV's on the property during the program.

Some of the ranchers closer to the border are not allowing the MM to cross their property because they are too close to the Mexican border. They are afraid of vigilantism from Mexican drug cartels if they do.

Calling the Sheriff, who could take an hour or more to get to their property wouldn't have much effect at preventing or arresting angry Mexicans from cutting their fences, would it?

These people would come in, cause the damage intended and be back across the border into Mexico before the sheriff even arrived.

We all know that our law enforcement people aren't going to pursue revengeful criminals across the border into Mexico.
49 posted on 03/27/2005 7:17:23 AM PST by B4Ranch (The Minutemen will be doing a 30 day Neighborhood Watch Program in Cochise County, Arizona.)
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To: AmericanChef

I don't know about a new law.

Let's just hope there are no bad apples. I have heard some idiot white supremacists are going to try to get into the mix. Let's hope the leaders of the MM choose wisely....


50 posted on 03/27/2005 7:18:32 AM PST by MikefromOhio (Terri is going to die and then the mob is going to blame both Bush brothers. Realism is dead on FR)
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