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Schiavo’s father makes emotional appeal
Philadelphia Inquirer ^ | 3/28/05 | Sandy Bauers

Posted on 03/28/2005 12:17:43 PM PST by LibWhacker

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To: Kings18-37

What, exactly, do you expect Joe Lieberman to do?


51 posted on 03/28/2005 1:08:29 PM PST by mountaineer
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To: Admin Moderator

I like it when the AM posts a public warning. Thanks.


52 posted on 03/28/2005 1:09:12 PM PST by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: verity; Clara Lou

His daughter is being killed by order of the man who promised to love, honor, and cherish her. I'd be damn near insane too.


53 posted on 03/28/2005 1:10:03 PM PST by Xenalyte (I dare you to make less sense.)
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To: EveningStar

Yep, sort of like what Janet Reno did, not once, but twice.

AND, DCF could legally do it.


54 posted on 03/28/2005 1:10:42 PM PST by Mayflower Sister
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To: Mayflower Sister

Not any more they can't. And we should not be emulating Janet Reno.


55 posted on 03/28/2005 1:12:22 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: Hildy

That is just rude, and I've come to expect some pretty rude stuff from you.

Until your daughter is starved by the man who promised to love her always, so you can demonstrate how you'd "settle this privately" and "let her go in peace," STFU.


56 posted on 03/28/2005 1:13:17 PM PST by Xenalyte (I dare you to make less sense.)
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To: mountaineer

They would have to intravenously hydrate her first than insert a feeding tube and slowly reintroduce feedings!


57 posted on 03/28/2005 1:15:33 PM PST by mdmathis6
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To: syriacus

That might make a valid point should the fluid reduction have occured closer to the time of the injury but after years and year, the damaged areas have calcified.


58 posted on 03/28/2005 1:21:25 PM PST by mdmathis6
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To: mjtobias

But then what? I'm all for anything that will save Terri, but will the State of Florida then have custody of her indefinitely? How will Florida be able to ignore the courts completely and kick Michael out as guardian?


59 posted on 03/28/2005 1:22:13 PM PST by Cecily
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To: mdmathis6; syriacus
There was a doctor who suggested doing just that (I don't recall his name), but Michael Schiavo said "no."
60 posted on 03/28/2005 1:25:00 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: SouthernFreebird

Not three people. The death movement has an army working behind the scenes. We need to make sure we function as efficiently as well. The really sad thing is that so many Christians failed to vote in years gone by. We're reaping the judicial appointments of that era -- and we can't afford not to fight for court appointments in the future. Or elections, where judges are elected.


61 posted on 03/28/2005 1:25:57 PM PST by Exigence
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To: mountaineer
Joe said this on MTPL "These are very difficult decisions, but - of course, if you ask me what I would do if I was the Florida Legislature or any state legislature, I'd say that if somebody doesn't have a living will and the next of kin disagree on whether the person should be kept alive or that is whether food and water should be taken away and her life ended - that really the benefit of the doubt ought to be given to life."

There's mothing illegal about Fla legislature passing this law. But, 9 Pubs and all Dems voted against when it fist came up- Politicians are afraid of public reaction. A bi-partisan Mercy Coalition of National figures can change public opinion, and maybe change the hearts and votes of, at least, some of the 9 Pubs who voted against. Isn't it worth a try to save Terri?

62 posted on 03/28/2005 1:26:25 PM PST by Kings18-37
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To: nicmarlo; mdmathis6

Thank you, for your explanations.


63 posted on 03/28/2005 1:27:06 PM PST by syriacus (Michael said Terri had bulimia, a mental illness. Terri wasn't of "sound mind" to say "no tubes")
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To: Hildy
They're not the only people in the world who has had a child die. Can't they do anything privately?

Horrible suggestion. This situation has been caused by the false notion of "privacy" that have allowed too many facts to remain unexamined.

Forgive them for they know not what they do. And, forgive you, for you know not what you say.

64 posted on 03/28/2005 1:28:38 PM PST by Exigence
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To: Exigence
This situation has been caused by the false notion of "privacy" that have allowed too many facts to remain unexamined.

Dr. Cranford, who testified for Michael that Terri is PVS doesn't think PVS patients have constitutional rights. [Is Terri a person with constitutional rights? ]

That makes it all the stranger that Michael is insisting on Terri's "right to privacy."

65 posted on 03/28/2005 1:43:38 PM PST by syriacus (Michael said Terri had bulimia, a mental illness. Terri wasn't of "sound mind" to say "no tubes")
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To: what's up
"I had a sincere desire to know exactly what action the father would like to be taken. What's wrong with you?"

You asked the question in this FR forum, not to Mr. Schindler. I replied exactly as I think the father would have, and I said it politely. What is wrong with you?

66 posted on 03/28/2005 1:44:13 PM PST by TheCrusader ("the frenzy of the Mohammedans has devastated the Churches of God" - Pope Urban II, 1097 A.D.)
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To: Exigence

Don't tell me I don't what I'm saying. I know exactly what I'm saying.


67 posted on 03/28/2005 1:45:26 PM PST by Hildy
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To: Xenalyte

You stfu. So there.


68 posted on 03/28/2005 1:45:56 PM PST by Hildy
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To: 68 grunt
Maybe you could get Janet Reno to lead the effort. You liked it so well when she did it for E. Gonzales. Gestapo, I think thats to what they were likened.

This is the most common comment from the deathheads.

It makes no sense though.

It's the war is always wrong liberal mantra. Same thought process.

69 posted on 03/28/2005 1:46:31 PM PST by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: LibWhacker

God bless his sweet tormented heart.


70 posted on 03/28/2005 1:47:27 PM PST by Saundra Duffy ("Where there's life, there's hope." Theresa Marie SCHINDLER)
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To: tallhappy
I'm sorry, your post made absolutely no sense. Considering the source I'm not too surprised.

I don't really feel I'm a 'deathhead', more of a 'face_reality_head' if you like.

71 posted on 03/28/2005 1:50:12 PM PST by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: mjtobias
Let everyone who said your beautiful smile was fake be haunted by it for the rest of their days.

People who can't see the look of love on Terri's face and in her eyes must have a personality disorder.

72 posted on 03/28/2005 1:51:13 PM PST by syriacus (Michael said Terri had bulimia, a mental illness. Terri wasn't of "sound mind" to say "no tubes")
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To: Hildy

"They're not the only people in the world who has had a child die."

True enough, Hildy. They are, however, among a very few to have their child (who has done no wrong)to die by court order and to be helpless to do anything for her.


73 posted on 03/28/2005 1:57:58 PM PST by katieanna (Jesus, I love calling Your Name!)
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To: TheCrusader
I replied exactly as I think the father would have

Thanks for your all-knowing wisdom. I still would like to know what action the father would like taken. Sorry, I don't trust you to read his mind.

74 posted on 03/28/2005 1:58:01 PM PST by what's up
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To: LibWhacker
Poor Mr. Schindler.

The ACLU is hoping people will be so traumatized by Terri's starvation that they will support the ACLU in their fight to legalize euthanasia.

The ACLU has already given an award (with dinner) to Gerald Kogan, the former Chief Justice of the Florida State Supreme Court, who supports euthanasia.
ACLU Honors Kogan With Poynter Award

75 posted on 03/28/2005 1:58:51 PM PST by syriacus (Michael said Terri had bulimia, a mental illness. Terri wasn't of "sound mind" to say "no tubes")
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To: what's up
"I still would like to know what action the father would like taken."

Like I said, go and ask HIM.

76 posted on 03/28/2005 2:00:36 PM PST by TheCrusader ("the frenzy of the Mohammedans has devastated the Churches of God" - Pope Urban II, 1097 A.D.)
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To: TheCrusader
Like I said, go and ask HIM.

Do you really think he would grant me an interview while he is at his daughter's deathbed? Strange opinion, if so.

He has the newspapers as a ready conduit and millions are now hearing his words. If he feels like saying action should be taken, I think he should follow up and tell us what kind. I really would. If it's a good idea, maybe something would happen.

77 posted on 03/28/2005 2:07:42 PM PST by what's up
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To: jpsb

one question...

how much have YOU protested outside the hospice? hmmmm?

I would bet on a lot less than Jeb Bush....

go take your hysteria somewhere else, this is getting old and boring.


78 posted on 03/28/2005 2:08:04 PM PST by MikefromOhio (Terri is going to die and then the mob is going to blame both Bush brothers. Realism is dead on FR)
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To: Admin Moderator

Thank God common sense is breaking out.....


79 posted on 03/28/2005 2:08:42 PM PST by MikefromOhio (Terri is going to die and then the mob is going to blame both Bush brothers. Realism is dead on FR)
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To: mdmathis6
damaged areas have calcified.

Can those parts be pared?

80 posted on 03/28/2005 2:15:32 PM PST by syriacus (Michael said Terri had bulimia, a mental illness. Terri wasn't of "sound mind" to say "no tubes")
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To: MikeinIraq

Just thought you would appreciate being corrected when you are factually wrong. I should have know better. Bye.


81 posted on 03/28/2005 2:20:19 PM PST by jpsb
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To: jpsb

or should have known better...

They still told the protestors (aka YOU) to go home and leave well enough alone. That they are still working to get someone to intervene just shows their love for their daughter.


82 posted on 03/28/2005 2:23:49 PM PST by MikefromOhio (Terri is going to die and then the mob is going to blame both Bush brothers. Realism is dead on FR)
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To: verity

You say,

I really feel sorry for the old guy. He is close to the edge.

Your an idiot.
Where does Florida get the right to starve an innocent woman to death.
She never said she wanted to die like this.

Jeb doesn't get it.
Castro see's what a coward he is.
I wouldn't be shocked if Castro sends another 100,000 Cuban criminals to Miami like he did in 1980.
Jeb will say, well according to Florida law we have to let them in.

JEB = Spineless


83 posted on 03/28/2005 2:26:44 PM PST by Lori675
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To: MikeinIraq
One of the reasons I can be successful or get along without every post getting blasted is that I admit mistakes and accept factual correction then I am wrong. Just yesterday I thanked two posters that corrected me on the facts. I really believe that the truth shall set you free, now some (not necessarily you) flat out refuse to be corrected on the facts. When corrected they resort to insults, attacks, topic changes or just ignore the correction. We can disagree, and we can be passionate, but we can't even agree on the facts when all we do is talk past one another, which is why I appreciate being corrected and why I attempted a gentle correction with you. I didn't get on my soap box and slam you, I didn't call you any names, insult your intelligence or your integrity. Sorry if I bore you, like I said bye.
84 posted on 03/28/2005 2:39:52 PM PST by jpsb
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To: 68 grunt
Your argument makes no sense.

It is the same argument that war or killing is always wrong.

According to your argument, if power is used to do something wrong, then power therefore can never be used to do something right.

You make the argument that all uses of power are morally equivalent.

There are just wars, and non-just wars. The liberal peacenik makes no distinction.

85 posted on 03/28/2005 2:39:58 PM PST by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: Lori675; verity
His in 2 was definitely a smarmy low-life type comment.

I feel sorry for people like verity.

There's a lot of sad hurting people in this world they don't understand or value life because of their own hurt and intellectual shortcomings.

86 posted on 03/28/2005 2:42:28 PM PST by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: tallhappy

Would it bother you if I ignored you? I can't make out your attempts at analogies.


87 posted on 03/28/2005 2:43:31 PM PST by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: tallhappy

Oh boy, threats of violence. How cool is that!


89 posted on 03/28/2005 2:52:41 PM PST by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: 68 grunt; Lori675
Then there are people like this guy, grunt, who are so besotted in their ways they sit in scorn and cynicism over things they cannot possibly comprehend.
90 posted on 03/28/2005 2:53:41 PM PST by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: 68 grunt
Threats of violence?

You are a coward and a moron?

Look, you are not able to understand intellectual argument. Perhaps you need something physical like a child does.

Have you ever heard the term knock some sense in to you?

Let me tell you old man. You can hurl these cynical comments, ignore thought, be happy in your besotted state where nothing is meaningful to you and you hold scorn for others.

But no one is going to respect you or care for whatever you may have done in your pathetic life.

Thanks for you service in Vietnam. I know why we lost now.

Rather pathetic how you feel your pathetic loss is somehow worthy of marking your identity.

You let people like John Kerry beat you then and now you wallow in it so much you care nothing for liberty, right, wrong, or life. Just cause you are a broken man doesn't mean you have to try and bring your misanthropy to the rest of us.

91 posted on 03/28/2005 3:19:39 PM PST by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: tallhappy

Knock it off.


92 posted on 03/28/2005 3:24:54 PM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: Admin Moderator; 68 grunt
Who started it?

If he wants to begin like that he should be able to take it.

Two posts by me, no insults. Two posts of him in response (with no prior history) with silly insults.

OK, but then he has to be able to take it if I thn return in kind.

I will of course defer to the admin mod and you, 68 grunt, can be protected by mommy.

Always funny how some people can dish it out but not take it.

93 posted on 03/28/2005 3:30:42 PM PST by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: tallhappy; 68 grunt
All right, I'll put it differently.

Regardless of who may have started it, please everyone knock off the personal stuff.

94 posted on 03/28/2005 3:34:49 PM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: Admin Moderator

Aye aye


95 posted on 03/28/2005 3:37:51 PM PST by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: Admin Moderator
As I stated:

I will of course defer to the admin mod

96 posted on 03/28/2005 3:43:26 PM PST by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: Lori675

You obnoxious mental midget.


97 posted on 03/28/2005 4:06:00 PM PST by verity (A mindset is a terrible thing to waste.)
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To: tallhappy

Are you gay or just stupid?


98 posted on 03/28/2005 4:07:38 PM PST by verity (A mindset is a terrible thing to waste.)
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To: verity

Admin asked us to cool down, amigo.


99 posted on 03/28/2005 4:14:19 PM PST by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: 68 grunt

I'll just call him stupid.


100 posted on 03/28/2005 4:15:56 PM PST by verity (A mindset is a terrible thing to waste.)
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