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Lilly Fires Man Who Wrote Book On Sales Experience
The Indy Channel ^ | March 29, 2005 | The Associated Press

Posted on 03/29/2005 11:29:01 AM PST by Abathar

NEW YORK -- Eli Lilly & Co. said it fired an employee who wrote a book about his tenure as a Pfizer Inc. sales representative which boasted about how little he worked and how much money he earned.

A spokesman for Indianapolis-based Lilly, Philip Belt, said on Monday that Jamie Reidy, author of the recently released "Hard Sell: The Evolution of a Viagra Salesman", was terminated because the book advocated actions that were in violation of Lilly's policies.

In the book, for example, Reidy admits he exaggerated how often he visited doctors. He also says in the book that he ordered extra food when he visited physicians' offices so he could take the leftovers home for dinner.

Reidy said he worked for Indianapolis-based Lilly for four and a half years, first as a salesman but most recently training other representatives. The book is based on the five years he worked at Pfizer, which makes Viagra.

Reidy said Lilly told him it couldn't allow him to set an example for its sales representatives.

He said he didn't regret his actions while at Pfizer or writing the book, however.

"I can see where people may say it was unethical but I was still making my numbers," Reidy said. "I didn't think I was hurting Pfizer."

Reidy said he had cleaned up his act while at Lilly, and that it was harder to manipulate the system.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bookreview; fired; pfizer; pharmaceuticals; viagra
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- Reidy said he finds it strange that Lilly fired him for actions he took while at Pfizer, and was somewhat surprised by the company's decision. -

The guy writes a book about how he screwed off and then finds it strange he was fired from a job training other salesman. Go figure -

1 posted on 03/29/2005 11:29:01 AM PST by Abathar
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To: Abathar

What a dumb*ss.


2 posted on 03/29/2005 11:32:51 AM PST by MisterRepublican (Grand Ayatollah George Greer (PBUH) has declared jihad against the disabled.)
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To: Abathar
What do you expect from salesmen? Surprised he didn't hire strippers to show the before/after affects of his product...
3 posted on 03/29/2005 11:32:53 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
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To: Abathar

Doesn't sound like this guy would have enough energy to detect that pharmacist not dispensing the chemo drugs. It was a sales rep who discovered that the numbers didn't jive.


4 posted on 03/29/2005 11:33:23 AM PST by mel
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To: Abathar

Well, this ought to help his book sales!


5 posted on 03/29/2005 11:36:12 AM PST by rawhide
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To: 2banana

It's great when you have a product that sells itself isn't it? He said his numbers were where they should be, think about how much better they would have been if the guy actually tried. What a moron.


6 posted on 03/29/2005 11:37:26 AM PST by Abathar (Proudly catching hell for not reading the whole article since 1999)
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To: Abathar

How could a book like that even get published, assuming it did? Just where is the market for a book like that?


7 posted on 03/29/2005 11:37:35 AM PST by Always Right
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In the book, for example, Reidy admits he exaggerated how often he visited doctors. He also says in the book that he ordered extra food when he visited physicians' offices so he could take the leftovers home for dinner.

I cannot imagine wanting to take cold pizza, and stale subs home from a client. If he were smart he would have scheduled dinner meetings with doctors, and eat much better.

8 posted on 03/29/2005 11:37:43 AM PST by Sthitch
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Reidy admits he exaggerated how often he visited doctors

A Salesman who lied on his call reports? Horrors!

9 posted on 03/29/2005 11:40:18 AM PST by utahguy (Ya gotta kill it before you grill it: Ted Nugent)
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To: Abathar

With that attitude he must have been under the illusion that he "worked" in academia.


10 posted on 03/29/2005 11:40:45 AM PST by Texas_Jarhead (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1366853/)
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Having worked in the medical industry for awhile, it was my experience that most "drug reps" were merely order takers.

I rarely saw them busting their ass. They'd order a catered lunch for the entire office staff, schmooze with the office manager and the docs, write up a few orders and leave. This is working hard?

Oh, and they make big bucks, too.

11 posted on 03/29/2005 11:41:59 AM PST by upchuck ("If our nation be destroyed, it would be from the judiciary." ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Abathar

"he ordered extra food when he visited physicians' offices"

Physicians' offices sell food?


12 posted on 03/29/2005 11:42:42 AM PST by Larry Lucido (We miss ya, Indie! Law Enforcement Against Prohibition - http://www.leap.cc)
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To: Abathar
What will be horribly sick is that Reidy will likely have a sold out speaking circuit by the end of the year, and by the end of next year he'll be a consultant to half of the Fortune 500 companies, helping them close the loopholes that he'll be spreading during his speaking circuit.
13 posted on 03/29/2005 11:44:33 AM PST by kingu (Which would you bet on? Iraq and Afghanistan? Or Haiti and Kosovo?)
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To: utahguy
A Salesman who lied on his call reports? Horrors!

LOL! I'm a lifelong salesman. We don't really lie. We just don't tell the truth....

14 posted on 03/29/2005 11:53:18 AM PST by freebilly (Go SC Basketball!)
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Oh Man, now he's ruined it for his fellow salesmen. I bet their pissed!!
15 posted on 03/29/2005 11:54:57 AM PST by BBell
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To: upchuck
I rarely saw them busting their ass. They'd order a catered lunch for the entire office staff, schmooze with the office manager and the docs, write up a few orders and leave. This is working hard?

Oh, and they make big bucks, too.

Sorry, kiddo, but 97% of the people out there can't do what a good sales rep does. Our function is to do one thing--

Close the deal. Period. It takes years to get to the point where it looks like we do nothing but goof off, but the good reps are worth every dollar they make. I'm just about to close a deal with a major pharmaceutical company. It's taken about a year and a half to get to get to this point. The people in accounting probably work harder than I do. The production people work harder than I do. The graphics people and the people in tech services work harder than me.

But none of them can sell. I can. Without people like me no $$$$ comes into my company.

I'm going in today and ask for a raise....

16 posted on 03/29/2005 12:02:16 PM PST by freebilly (Go SC Basketball!)
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Without any of the people you mention - accounting, production, graphics, tech - and some you don't - R&D, legal - there wouldn't be anything to sell now would there?

The way paper shufflers are overcompensated relative to actually productive people has grated on me since I earned my first chemistry degree, and it has only gotten worse since finishing graduate school.

On the other hand, you're correct - I expect the product to sell itself. I couldn't sell worth a dang.

17 posted on 03/29/2005 12:09:44 PM PST by Kretek
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To: 2banana

"What do you expect from salesmen?"

Half the people on the freerepublic are sales people. LOL

Holtz
JeffersonRepublic.com


18 posted on 03/29/2005 12:13:04 PM PST by JeffersonRepublic.com (<<<------- shameless promotion- visit & win my love forever)
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To: Abathar

One would expect sales to rise and fall with some predictability when it comes to Viagara salesmen. One would also expect a certain amount of cockiness to manifest itself. Case in point here.


19 posted on 03/29/2005 12:30:27 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Kretek

I hire folks like you to work for me. Because I can manage a lot of scientists that know and can do a lot more than I can. However, if the folks I hire don't get it done, then I don't get it done and I my family goes hungry. Then they hire someone else to manage you. You will always have job security. I trade the security for risk and wealth. High Risk High Reward.,.,....

I am a Project Manager


20 posted on 03/29/2005 12:34:32 PM PST by Tenacious 1 (Dems: "It can't be done" Reps. "Move, we'll find a way or make a way. It has to be done!")
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