Posted on 03/30/2005 7:30:24 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo
That was a good one.
Goodnight folks, going to bed early (it's 8:30 p.m. now). Take care. I hope to see Steel Wolf's and others' inputs tomorrow some time.
Pray for Terri. This may be her last night on earth and the first night of a terrible new reign of Judicial Tyranny in our land. I hope it is a better dawn tomorrow, I'll hope for that at the very least, but I fear it may well bring bitter news. Good night.
"Bluntly stated, most bioethicists do not believe that membership in the human species accords any of us intrinsic moral worth. Rather, what matters is whether “a being” or “an organism,” or even a machine, is a “person,” a status achieved by having sufficient cognitive capacities. Those who don’t measure up are denigrated as “non-persons.”
Allen’s perspective is in fact relatively conservative within the mainstream bioethics movement. He is apparently willing to accept that “minimal awareness would support some criterion of personhood” — although he doesn’t say that awareness is determinative. Most of his colleagues are not so reticent. To them, it isn’t sentience per se that matters but rather demonstrable rationality.
Thus Peter Singer of Princeton argues that unless an organism is self-aware over time, the entity in question is a non-person. The British academic John Harris, the Sir David Alliance professor of bioethics at the University of Manchester, England, has defined a person as “a creature capable of valuing its own existence.” Other bioethicists argue that the basic threshold of personhood should include the capacity to experience desire."
You see where these people with warped minds are trying to take us. God help those who are helpless, or disfigured, or less than perfect in so many ways. They, too, will be unplugged one day.
Without this INDEPENDENT, SUPPORTING documentation, from someone other than a doctor noted for his love of euthanasia, it's MURDER! Another T-4 program by the Socialists.
And, even the liberals are starting to get a little squeamish. Odd that we haven't seen any tape of her lately. TS looks like a "musselmann" from 60 years ago...
It's interesting to see this sorting between those who kill because they have to and those who kill because they enjoy it...
The medical standards continue to evolve. We saw Doctor Healey (sp?) on TV last night - from somewhere I thought she was a former surgeon general or nominee for that position - and she flatly stated as fact that there have been new standards developed since Terri was declared PVS. She also expressed her opinion that the new standards should be applied to anybody who is about to have a feeding tube removed.
Sadly, Terri's tube was removed based on application of something other than the most recent standards.
You are, to say the least, presumptive in deeming her PVS - as have demonstrably been others.
She is cognitive. And if there is doubt - then it is only right and proper to error on the side of life and Faith.
You are free to ensure that your standards are eminently applied to yourself - yourself - down the road.
The laws of Florida, and of the United States of America, were changed. In a free state, in a free country, our masters in black robes would not be permitted to ignore that fact. If anything, the comparison of the U.S. government to the Imperial Japanese is weak. At least the Japanese had the excuse that they were involved in an all-consuming war. The government of a "free state, in a free country", in a time of relative peace and prosperity, stands idly by and permits the cold-blooded killing of an innocent woman for no reason whatsoever. That, my friend, is "over the top".
Someone with a flat EEG is unable to perform even involuntary functions, such as breathing, digesting, circulating blood, etc., etc. It would be impossible to "starve" anyone with a flat EEG, as such a person would be unable to process nutrients even if they were provided.
We should already apologize. Social darwinism has arrived.
They all should of been killed !!Them and the entire Nippon army then bombed back to the wood plow.
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> ... I'm assuming the people starved had cognitive abilities and weren't PVS. Let's compare apples and oranges some more, shall we.
And the source for your belief that Terri lacked cognitive abilities and is/was PVS? From her testimony-challenged merciless "husband", who recently slipped up on the Larry King Live Program (3/18/05) and said "I don't know what Terri wanted. It's what we wanted.", with his attorney Felos sitting beside him? Or the testimony from right-to-die euthansia-oriented medical professionals like Dr. Cranford? He diagnosed Robert Wendland in California as PVS when Wendland was getting around on his own in a wheelchair and participating in activities with others; I think playing chess and free hand artdrawing.
Terri's parents had about 3 times as many affidavits as HINO and Felos. The affidavits favorable to Terri, affirming her alert, aware, cognitive (and evidence of strangulation) condition, came from many medical professionals, were often voluntarily provided because of compassion and concern about Terri's horrendous legal plight.
She was disabled, not dying before her intent-on-her-murder husband had the feeding tube tube removed and forced her remaining days to be without food or water. She's now started her 14th day. How do you think you'd be faring after 14 days without either food or water. You should think about that and hope to god neither you nor anyone else finds themself subject to a judge who decides their fate on the basis of flimsy hearsay from someone who stands to benefit in the several million dollar range (books, movie, TV rights) from your death.
Ping
"He became the 47th protester arrested since Ms Schiavo's feeding tube was removed. The man had two bottles of water with him but did not reach the hospice door, police said."
How will the Christians all over the world call Americans (minus 47 arrested)?
Not much different from vegetable is it?
May God have mercy indeed..
Congrats, AIF! You are being discussed, along with other deserving contenders, for a 2005 Terri Award Nomination, in the category of "Most oblique reference to the topic that must be mentioned on every single #@$&ing FR thread."
Such salubrious efficiency at weight loss.... better not let the death cultists see this one or they may invent a new fad diet plan.
That's not true and it's obvious you haven't read the court documents.
There are two regions of the brain and I've forgotten if it's the upper or lower regions which control breathing. Terri obviously is breathing on her own and it is the other region which is flat.
Terri is NOT cognitive and does have PVS. Are you unaware that her parents admitted under oath that she is PVS? They say something very different for the television cameras than they do under oath.
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