Skip to comments.Human Starvation Experiments by UNIT 731 of the Japanese Imperial Army (Scientific Results)
Posted on 03/30/2005 7:30:24 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo
IMPERIAL JAPANESE CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY: Witness Account "C" Test How Long a Human Being Could Survive With Just Water and Biscuits
Imperial Japanese Medical Orderly Ishibashi witnessed:
(Translation) "I saw the malnutrition experiments. They were conducted by the project team under the technician Yoshimura. He was a civilian project team under the technician Yoshimura. He was a civilian member of Unit 731. The purpose of the experiments, I believe, was to find out how long a human being could survive just with water and biscuits. Two individuals were used for this experiment. They continuously circled a prescribed course within the grounds of the Unit 731 carrying, approximately, a 20-kilogram sandbag on their backs. One succumbed before the other, but they both ultimately died. The duration of the experiment was about two months. They only received Army biscuits to eat, and water to drink, so they would not have been able to survive for very long. They weren't allowed a lot of sleep either."
Men, women, and children who became experiment prisoners were mummified alive in total dehydration experiments. They sweated to death under the heat of hot dry fans. At death, their corpses weighed only one-fifth of their normal body weights. Others were electrocuted or boiled alive. "
"Other experiments were not related to germ warfare per se, but transpired so that the doctors could learn more about how humans live and die. These included studies of dehydration, starvation, frostbite, air pressure - some inmates had their eyes blown out - transfusions of animal blood to humans and others.
"Marutas (Chinese inmates imprisoned in the medical facility by the Japanese Army) were denied food or water to determine the maximum length of survival, or mummified alive in total dehydration experiments."
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Sheesh. In one Japanese sadistic medical experiment, the two innocent victims were given even more nutritional sustenance than Terri Schiavo is currently being given, pushed to the limit of human survival.
May God Have Mercy on our Republic. The Republic which defeated Japanese atrocities such as these.
Yous guys, too. Ping
Actually, I understand that medical researchers still refer to both the Japanese and the German experiments on humans. God willing they'll never be recreated, but so long as the data is there we may as well use it.
If you're wondering why people call the Japanese sub-human, here's why.
I haven't read the article but I'm assuming the people starved had cognitive abilities and weren't PVS. Let's compare apples and oranges some more, shall we.
I am surprised they did not have the foresight to view this humans as "nonpersons" like some of our medical medical ghouls are suggesting we do with patients like Terri. Take the organs while the patient lives--- This entire situation is so sick and depraved.
You better watch it, the "Randroids" and "Inspector Girard" law uber alles crowd will accuse you of hyperbole. B-P
This is about starvation and experiments and cruelty...Terri Schiavo...and how, if we as a society are not careful, we will have to end up apologizing to Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan (even though their leaders are in the grave) for fighting against them because of our abhorrence against their principles, at the time, which we vanquished supposedly for all time.
Maybe I should just get over it, but stuff like this is why I would rather buy an American brand for a vehicle.
"Some people are more equal than others"
Oh, believe you me, the satanic men in Unit 751 and other "experimentation units" classified them as non-persons alright. Otherwise, how could you kill them? The terminology used was not "shujin" (prisoner), or even "chugokujin" (Chinese), but rather--get this (it's sick), as "maruta" (logs).
Hell, some peoples' front lawns are more equal than other people.
The way they all do it, it has a creepy, DNC blast-fax kind of feel to it.
Welcome to Floriduh.
Leben unwürdig vom Leben
Ikiru Ryu Ga Nai Inochi
Gee, how much better we are to torture the helpless, instead of the "able-bodied." Sorry, Peach, that's a really lousy argument.
Florida is a free state in a free country, and the people of Florida set their own standards of due process. You and I might not agree with their standards, or the result of the case, but this decision wasn't reached lightly, and will probably result in the laws of Florida being changed. She's not being bayonneted for fun, or serving as a test subject for chemical weapons.
Comparing her isolated tragedy to that of a deliberate, calculating war crimes against the populaces of entire cities is insult to the countless victims of the Imperial Japanese.
They're not people. They're apples and oranges.
I can only imagine the current pain she is going through.
I can imagine it might not be too different from the final moments of consciousness and cognizance and pain recognition as the 'maruta's in Heiliungjang/Northeast China under Dai Nippon Teikoku. Sorry.
Quite frankly, I don't like it when elements of my country, such as Judge Greer and other courts, adopt North Korean values, and those I expect to fight and prevail against those, don't deliver.
If you can't see this as hyperbole, you either have no grasp of history, or have temporarily lost it due to being overwhelmed by emotion.
Go read this and then get back to me about how the U.S. government is so much like the Imperial Japanese.
If you cannot see the difference between starving people who are living vs. people who have no cognitive abilities, a flat EEG, a cerebral cortex that is simly gone and someone who is PVS, then we simply have nothing to discuss.
Tell me, are you opposed to feeding tubes being removed for everyone? Because they are removed from terminally ill patients every day of the week. And they have a lot more feeling than Terri. And they are removed from massive stroke victims every day of the week. The list is a long one.
Who said anything about some people being more equal than others? Please do not put words in my mouth. If you can't argue your case without doing that, you must not have much of a case.
The scale and dimension observations are right and your comparatives make sense; however the underlying premise and social moral, is really the same. That is what is dangerous about it. Unit 731 did not happen overnight. It took years to get to that place, as did Zyclon B gas in the German gas chambers...a study of the slow, slow advance toward this situation, where it's roots were, political, moral, cultural, in the slow but sure denial of the individual and the strengthening of power of the state to put to death those it did not think were worthy of life or too costly, is a worthy study IMHO.
Well, at first it takes one, then a few, then many, and then much more, we are on a slippery slope my friend.
I have a lot of friends here on FR, and of course most of them, almost all of them, I've never 'met'. And yet, now I am getting in a doosy of an argument with some of them on Terri Schiavo, Judicial Tyranny and Executive/Legislative Inaction. Life and Death. It is interesting though that the great majority of FReepers who thought similiarly to me on human rights issus in a foreign policy context, are lock step with me on Terri. I can handle a difference of opinions,, though. We are all grown ups. After all, on the same side of the issue, or not, at the end of the day, we are all still 'friends'.
I'm not going to flame you because I believe that there has been far too much of it going on around FR already. I just want to point out that doctors have acknowledged that they aren't entirely sure what is going on inside the head of a PVS patient. That is why they've given Terri morphine. They don't think that she feels pain, but they don't want to take any chances. Because of that, I don't think that it's unreasonable to conclude that there is a chance that she has awareness and that she might be suffering due to the dehydration/starvation process.
"Comparing her isolated tragedy to that of a deliberate, calculating war crimes against the populaces of entire cities is insult to the countless victims of the Imperial Japanese."
I don't view the comparison as an insult. I view the comparison as a statement on where our culture is and where it is going.
I see the enemy to our way of life and it is us.
On what basis do you morally condemn the Imperial Japanese experiments? After all they set their own standards, didn't they? You and I might not agree with their standards, or the results of their experiments, but I'm sure their decision to experiment on human beings and kill them was not reached lightly.
If the decision of a State court judge to dehydrate and starve to death a U.S. citizen to death was not taken lightly, then what's wrong with it? Why is it 'tragic' to you, since it was purportedly done with due process?
That was a good one.
Goodnight folks, going to bed early (it's 8:30 p.m. now). Take care. I hope to see Steel Wolf's and others' inputs tomorrow some time.
Pray for Terri. This may be her last night on earth and the first night of a terrible new reign of Judicial Tyranny in our land. I hope it is a better dawn tomorrow, I'll hope for that at the very least, but I fear it may well bring bitter news. Good night.
"Bluntly stated, most bioethicists do not believe that membership in the human species accords any of us intrinsic moral worth. Rather, what matters is whether a being or an organism, or even a machine, is a person, a status achieved by having sufficient cognitive capacities. Those who dont measure up are denigrated as non-persons.
Allens perspective is in fact relatively conservative within the mainstream bioethics movement. He is apparently willing to accept that minimal awareness would support some criterion of personhood although he doesnt say that awareness is determinative. Most of his colleagues are not so reticent. To them, it isnt sentience per se that matters but rather demonstrable rationality.
Thus Peter Singer of Princeton argues that unless an organism is self-aware over time, the entity in question is a non-person. The British academic John Harris, the Sir David Alliance professor of bioethics at the University of Manchester, England, has defined a person as a creature capable of valuing its own existence. Other bioethicists argue that the basic threshold of personhood should include the capacity to experience desire."
You see where these people with warped minds are trying to take us. God help those who are helpless, or disfigured, or less than perfect in so many ways. They, too, will be unplugged one day.
Without this INDEPENDENT, SUPPORTING documentation, from someone other than a doctor noted for his love of euthanasia, it's MURDER! Another T-4 program by the Socialists.
And, even the liberals are starting to get a little squeamish. Odd that we haven't seen any tape of her lately. TS looks like a "musselmann" from 60 years ago...
It's interesting to see this sorting between those who kill because they have to and those who kill because they enjoy it...
The medical standards continue to evolve. We saw Doctor Healey (sp?) on TV last night - from somewhere I thought she was a former surgeon general or nominee for that position - and she flatly stated as fact that there have been new standards developed since Terri was declared PVS. She also expressed her opinion that the new standards should be applied to anybody who is about to have a feeding tube removed.
Sadly, Terri's tube was removed based on application of something other than the most recent standards.
You are, to say the least, presumptive in deeming her PVS - as have demonstrably been others.
She is cognitive. And if there is doubt - then it is only right and proper to error on the side of life and Faith.
You are free to ensure that your standards are eminently applied to yourself - yourself - down the road.
The laws of Florida, and of the United States of America, were changed. In a free state, in a free country, our masters in black robes would not be permitted to ignore that fact. If anything, the comparison of the U.S. government to the Imperial Japanese is weak. At least the Japanese had the excuse that they were involved in an all-consuming war. The government of a "free state, in a free country", in a time of relative peace and prosperity, stands idly by and permits the cold-blooded killing of an innocent woman for no reason whatsoever. That, my friend, is "over the top".
Someone with a flat EEG is unable to perform even involuntary functions, such as breathing, digesting, circulating blood, etc., etc. It would be impossible to "starve" anyone with a flat EEG, as such a person would be unable to process nutrients even if they were provided.
We should already apologize. Social darwinism has arrived.
They all should of been killed !!Them and the entire Nippon army then bombed back to the wood plow.
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