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The Spectator ^ | 2 April 2005 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 03/31/2005 5:25:20 AM PST by mal

Do you remember a fellow called Robert Wendland? No reason why you should. I wrote about him in this space in 1998, and had intended to return to the subject but something else always intervened — usually Bill Clinton’s penis, which loomed large, at least metaphorically, over the entire era. Mr Wendland lived in Stockton, California. He was injured in an automobile accident in 1993 and went into a coma. Under state law, he could have been starved to death at any time had his wife requested the removal of his feeding tube. But Rose Wendland was busy with this and that, as one is, and assumed there was no particular urgency.

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To: k2blader

Where did I advocate the removal of anyone's feeding tube? Especially by force?

BTW, the Pope can communicate his wishes himself so I'll leave it to him in consultation with his physicians on the bet course to take. He has consented to its insertion.

It makes me sick how so many race to make false conclusions so they can bear false witness against their fellow man.

It's very sad.


121 posted on 03/31/2005 9:58:03 AM PST by cyncooper
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To: AmishDude

Also, where did I say it's "less legitimate".

That is a huge difference, and one I did not say, from saying "equivalent".


122 posted on 03/31/2005 9:58:46 AM PST by cyncooper
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To: marron

Thank you for your reply!


123 posted on 03/31/2005 9:59:48 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: xzins
I heard a radio bulletin announce that the Pope may now require a feeding tube.

While the RCC is what it is, the current pope seems to have been a decent fellow and I certainly wish him no ill. However, apparently he has written something directing that he be kept alive indefinitely even if he is in a coma or a PVS. I think it would be interesting to see those 'vatican lawyers' start to squirm if their pope settled into a nice 15-year coma with a trusty feeding tube keeping him 'alive.'

I have a feeling that current RCC dogma about feeding tubes would start changing right quick.

124 posted on 03/31/2005 10:00:59 AM PST by winstonchurchill
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To: maica
We are witnessing a spiritual war for the survival of our nation.

Indeed. And we praise God because we are on the winning side no matter what becomes of this nation for He will never leave us nor forsake us.

125 posted on 03/31/2005 10:02:40 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: ContraryMary
When the law itself is unconstitutional -- as happens occasionally.

And when is that determined and by whom?

126 posted on 03/31/2005 10:02:40 AM PST by AndrewC (All these moments are tossed in lime, like trains in the rear.)
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To: ContraryMary
When the law itself is unconstitutional -- as happens occasionally.

Look at post 116.

127 posted on 03/31/2005 10:05:03 AM PST by AndrewC (All these moments are tossed in lime, like trains in the rear.)
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To: xzins
It will see valuations placed on individuals based on their abilities.

And how much money they have. If the parents had money the courts wouldn't have prevailed.

128 posted on 03/31/2005 10:05:47 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: Pokey78
Thanks for the entire, wonderful article. Steyn bump to the top.
129 posted on 03/31/2005 10:06:30 AM PST by Ruth A.
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To: Alamo-Girl

True, but my heart grieves for future generations who may never know the potential that our country could be - forgive me if I sound trite - but in the way that Terri Schiavo could have had a very different last ten years if common ordinary therapy had not been refused to her, I grieve for the numbing and dumbing of our nation.


130 posted on 03/31/2005 10:06:55 AM PST by maica (Ask a Deathocrat: "When did you decide to support death always - except for condemned criminals?")
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To: Alamo-Girl
The 'right to die' can easily become a ‘duty to die’ in the minds of the elderly.

I have known people who felt their parents had a 'duty to die' because medical costs were eating up their inheritance.

131 posted on 03/31/2005 10:08:25 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: AndrewC

Unfortunately, Judge Wilson's opinion is very much in the minority.


132 posted on 03/31/2005 10:12:16 AM PST by ContraryMary (WPPFF Member)
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To: winstonchurchill; P-Marlowe; Salvation

I would far rather trust my health care and longevity, at this moment, to a group of Catholics than to a group of Protestants.

The first steadfastly oppose this new "abilities-based culture that punishes with death." The protestants barely spoke up except for a few loud corners.


133 posted on 03/31/2005 10:15:10 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: maica
Thank you for your reply!

True, but my heart grieves for future generations who may never know the potential that our country could be - forgive me if I sound trite - but in the way that Terri Schiavo could have had a very different last ten years if common ordinary therapy had not been refused to her, I grieve for the numbing and dumbing of our nation.

I understand and share in your grief for the moment - but I believe that Terri's story is the beginning of spiritual dividing of the people and not the end of it.

The old adage of "one doesn't miss the water until the well runs dry" occurs to me. The people who were clammering for her death cannot "take it back" when the Spirit moves in the stillness of their minds, convicting them, in the days and years to come. It can lead to revival or stiffening of the neck - we'll see.

134 posted on 03/31/2005 10:16:29 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: ladyjane

The love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Sadly, you have spoken truth. If Terri's parents had had a huge bankroll, I do bet they could have bought their way out of this.


135 posted on 03/31/2005 10:16:29 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: Pokey78
That it is, uniquely, a crime to serve Mrs Schiavo a beverage underlines the court's intent not to cease the artificial prolongation of life but actively to cause her death.

Exactly. And all the people who agree with Michael Schiavo and Greer are morally (immorally?) complicit if they don't see this.

136 posted on 03/31/2005 10:17:21 AM PST by hattend (Liberals! Beware the Perfect Rovian Storm [All Hail the Evil War Monkey King, Chimpus Khan!])
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To: ladyjane
I have known people who felt their parents had a 'duty to die' because medical costs were eating up their inheritance.

Sadly, so have I. And I have known elderly people who didn't want to go on for the same reason. I suspect those emotions will be greatly amplified in the years to come.

137 posted on 03/31/2005 10:18:53 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: ContraryMary
Unfortunately, Judge Wilson's opinion is very much in the minority.

That didn't make it wrong. Now tell me again, who determines when a law is unconstitutional?

138 posted on 03/31/2005 10:20:44 AM PST by AndrewC (All these moments are tossed in lime, like trains in the rear.)
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To: winstonchurchill; P-Marlowe; Salvation

I would far rather trust my health care and longevity, at this moment, to a group of Catholics than to a group of Protestants.

The first steadfastly oppose this new "abilities-based culture that punishes with death." The protestants barely spoke up except for a few loud corners.


139 posted on 03/31/2005 10:21:49 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: Pokey78
If he’d stop his shrill bleating for a couple of minutes, he might notice that the ‘theocrats’ who want Terri Schiavo to live include Jesse Jackson, Ralph Nader and Massachusetts Congressman Barney Frank, who’s not just a Democrat but a gay one.

Hmmm, Bahney Fwank seems to be on CNN almost daily bashing Bush. Yet, I've never seen him talking about being on Terri's side. Why is that, CNN?

Wow, I've finally found one thing on which I agree with Bahney Fwank. I'm absolutely shocked!

140 posted on 03/31/2005 10:26:04 AM PST by hattend (Liberals! Beware the Perfect Rovian Storm [All Hail the Evil War Monkey King, Chimpus Khan!])
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