A Patriot Died Protecting What Sandy Berger Stole And Clinton Laughs

[Doctor Raoul]

Click here and page down to CAPT JOHN PHILIP CROMWELL.

Please consider the facts surrounding CAPT Cromwell's being awarded the Medal of Honor for sacrificing his life to protect Code Word Classified information in a time of war, thereby putting the Berger guilty plea and hand slap in perspective.

Berger stole Code Word Classified information during a time of war.

CAPT Cromwell gave his life to protect it, while Bill Clinton makes a statement (paraphrasing from memory), "...those of us who know Sandy, we're all laughing about it."

Code Word Classification is above Top Secret. It is SCI. That is what the bastard stole and then "lost". Levels of classification (Confidential, Secret, Top Secret, SCI) are based on how much damage is caused to our national security if the information is compromised. Needless to say, what Berger compromised hurt this country was the worst catagory.

Click here to see a definition on "Code Word/SCI" came from a washingtonmonthly.com forum

Here's the text if you can't link:

To answer (and perhaps beat into the ground) the earlier question about classification (and some of you, I know, know this, but this is important).

Up until now there have been three different levels of classification -- confidential, secret and top secret (there used to be another, even lower one called restricted). The difference between them is supposed to be based on the amount of damage done if disclosed, but that has never been clear and there have been moves to eliminate "top secret" as really being redundant. Also, most military and intellegence officers have a secret clearance, or at least must be clearable at that level. These levels date back in some ways to before WWII.

But the amount of top secret information is enormous. Growing out of WWII security schemes like ULTRA and BIGOT is the scheme usually called Secure Compartmentalized Information or SCI. A code word is assigned to a body of information and a restricted list of persons are specifically clearled to have "special access" to that information. The scheme works hierarchically with a single code word covering a large area of activities (called a compartment), with subsidiary words covering subsets of that information. (Hence the title "code-word" classified.) Also, the technical means used to collect information, or the identity of those who collected it are in separate compartments from the information itself. Someone who knows the details of how a satellite works does not necessarily have access to the information gathered by it. A particular person or agency controls just who is indoctrinated for access to a particular compartment. An example (partially real from the 60's) would have been the designation across the cover sheet of a document:

TOP SECRET UMBRA CLIPPER SPOON NOFORN

This would inform you that this was a top secret document that was restricted from distribution to non-US citizens (NOFORN). "UMBRA" was actually at one time the compartment for all communications intelligence. "CLIPPER" might be a subset of it, such as airborne electronic intercepts, and "SPOON" might have been intercepts from North Korea. Someone who had clearance to "UMBRA CLIPPER SPOON" would not have access to "UMBRA CLIPPER BELL" information about China, and someone with simply "UMBRA CLIPPER" clearance would not have access to either. The technician in the next building might have access to "UMBRA LEAFLET COOKIE" information about just how those airborne surviallance systems work, but would not necessarily have any idea what information had been collected using them.

The identity and related information about CIA officers under non-official cover (NOC) overseas is @#%*^$ sensitive, and is restricted to a very tightly held set of compartments. Information about nuclear and other strategic weapons is similarly restricted, but shoud be in separate compartments. In other words, even if you know what information is gathered, you shoud not necessarily know how or by whom. The classification of NOC information tends to stay highly restricted for quite a while. Even if a field officer becomes an analyst, their NOC is preserved to prevent foreign counterintelligence organizations from noticing that last year's business traveler is now working for the CIA -- and making the logical deduction.

[Doctor Raoul]

Please circulate this information in your email groups and clubs.

[Doctor Raoul]

Berger took those stolen documents to his corporate office. Who cleans that office? Certainly not anyone with a security clearance.

Considering he was breaking the law to steal those code word documents, I doubt Berger took the protections necessary to protect our nations security while they were in his office.

[Diogenesis]

Secretary of Defense Cohen, Impeached Bill Clinton, Albright, and long-accepted CODE-level thief
and document destroyer National Security Adviser Sandy Berger,
holding court in the Ronald Reagan Building on April 25, 1999
The Impeached Bill Clinton: "We were all making comments
we shouldn't have about how the meeting was getting very boring.
So finally we decided we had to make like the monkey. Cohen
started this 'hear no evil,' and then I was next so I spoke no evil,
then Madeleine saw no evil, so Sandy Berger said, 'I'm evil.'"

Perhaps the goal is to have America attacked again.
Perhaps the goal is to encourage theft of CODE LEVEL documents.
Perhaps the goal is that morality just isn't ground in the dirt low enough yet.
Perhaps those at the top work with, for, or on behalf of, directly or indirectly, al Qaeda.
Food for thought:

Sandy Berger-Burglar was a key beneficiary of "Gorelick’s Wall"
TIME, "The Ubiquitous Mr. Fix-It", Adam Cohen

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John Kerry was a key beneficiary of Berger's Burglaries
Rescued: Data the Kerry/Edwards Campaign Tried to DELETE from its site! (grandpa dave found cache)

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Berger purloined all draft revisions of a key critique of the government's response
to the millennium terrorism threat, a document that detailed Administration knowledge
– and inaction – regarding al Qaeda presence in the U.S. in 1999
and 2000. Stolen were crucial notes in the margins of these drafts
which reveal the thinking and agendas of the
Clinton Administration relating to the mounting terrorist threat.
Washington Post, "Berger Quits as Advisor to Kerry", Susan Schmidt

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Berger was not qualified as NSA.
He was a millionaire lawyer and lobbyist with a career centered on expanding trade with China.
Tom Laughlin, http://www.billyjack.com/jung/08_politics/articles/990515_spy.html

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Former FBI Director Louis Freeh opined that
Burger “was a public-relations hack, interested in how something would play in the press” .
The New Yorker, per http://www.nationalreview.com/lowry/lowry200311030753.asp

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Dick Morris noted Berger “seemed to work overtime
at opposing tough measures against terror”,
advising vetoes of legislation aimed at crippling Iranian terror funding
and working to block antiterror sanctions.
Wall Street Journal, "While Clinton Fiddled", Dick Morris, http://www.opinionjournal.com/forms/printThis.html?id=95001824

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Berger repeatedly rebuffed Sudanese offers to hand Osama bin Laden
to the United States in a deal brokered by a $900,000 contributor to Democrat campaigns.
Source 1 - National Review, "Clinton & Khobar", Rich Lowry


Source 2 - Washington Times, "Miniter Responds", Richard Miniter

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Berger allowed bin Laden and his top lieutenants to escape to Afghanistan.
NewsMax, "Aide: Clinton Unleashed bin Laden", Chuck Noe

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Berger was singled-out by UN Inspector Scott Ritter for the collapse of UN inspections efforts in Iraq].
"Endgame: Solving the Iraq Problem - Once and for All" by Scott Ritter

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Berger admitted that the Clinton Administration failed to develop a war plan to fight al Qaeda
National Review, "Warning B.S.", Rich Lowry

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Berger was the "go-to" man regarding China policy
when Communist Chinese money was being funneled into Democrat Party coffers
in exchange for policy concessions, strategic nuclear technology,
and all pending patent applications at the US Patent Office.
The Hill, "Fundraiser resurfaces from 1996", Sam Dealey

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Berger stonewalled the Energy Department about Chinese spying in Los Alamos for three years.

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It was Berger who for Hillary Clinton let bin Laden go
both from the Sudanese and was he was briefly vulnerable to missile attack.
[e.g. US News & World Report, Paul Bedard, 15 Mar 2003]

"Mr. Berger, calling Mr. Sandy Berger. THIS IS IMPORTANT. Please. This is urgent.
We can take out Osama, now. Please answer!!! We have him in our sight."

Berger-Burglar: "Nope. Forgetaboutit. No big deal. Bill and I are too busy watching the West Wing on TV."

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"I was summoned to the office of National Security adviser Sandy Berger,
who chewed me out for not having a national security adviser (on the West Wing).
So I opened the next season with Anna Deavere Smith as the national security adviser" -
Aaron Sorkin

[Leo Carpathian]

Mis-demeanor? More like TREE-ZONE!!!
Where is Attorney General and any justice left???

[Txsleuth]

Prolly illegals clean the office, so it is PC!

Anyway, since he is only losing his security clearance for 3 years, he couldn't have done anything TOO bad, could he?/s

I am sorry that I am being so sarcastic, but there are just those stories that come across FR that makes me scratch my head and go "hmmmm", and this is one of them----it just doesn't make any sense at all that this guy wasn't even forced to go before a committee hearing and be made to account for what he did and why he did it----

The libs would have had a parade of administration employees filing through a congressional hearing to tell what they knew and when they knew it if a Bush Administration official had done this....

I am just at a loss, can't figure it out.

[Solamente]

And if all of this is dumped into the lap of the judge, and the judge does what he/she feels like, 180 degrees from the Constitution, then what?

[ex-Texan]

*BUMP*!

[TexasTransplant]

We get the Government that we deserve, Jefferson was certainly right.

What was the JFK quote about intellect in or at (Monticello?) that never had there been such a collection of Intellect gathered in one place with the exception of when Jefferson dined there alone.

[Solamente]

But-why-is-all-of-this-is-being-handled-with-kid-gloves-now -that-Republicans-are-in-charge?

[beyond the sea]

Great post. Berger ought to be hung.

[Archon of the East]

But-why-is-all-of-this-is-being-handled-with-kid-gloves-now -that-Republicans-are-in-charge?

Because the names behind the scene don't change?

[mommadooo3]

IF I'm being old-n-senile, forgive me.

But, isn't this info that was exposed years ago, here at FR??? And no one paid attention? And we were labeled the VRWC out to get the klintler regime?

[Solamente]

That is what is poisoning my support in those politicians in whom I have faith to do what is right while they are indeed in power.

WE MUST LIGHT A FIRE UNDER FRIST'S ASS, or write him off, period.

[Inspectorette]

I would like to know why in the living he** he still HAS a security clearance at all, if he's no longer employed by the government!

The usual protocol is, when you leave a job with a clearance, you are "de-briefed" - I know about this, as I just went through this procedure two days ago, when I retired from a major aerospace contractor.

[softwarecreator]

A Patriot Died Protecting What Sandy Berger Stole And Clinton Laughs)

Why not? The wimpy liberals and Democrats are spitting in the face of our soldiers WHILE they are dying in service to our country. Hell, they wanted to elect a traitor for President.

Scares me that we came so close to having our Chief Executive be a traitorous wuss who hates this country and will gladly sell it to the highest bidder. And to have Teresa as our first later would nauseate any thinking person who remembers what classy first ladies Barbara, Laura and Nancy were. Hildy is another matter but at least she tried to keep her fangs at bay while first lady.

[Fast1]

Exactly what was his government status that allowed him access to sensitive material? Seems like he was no more entitled to be there than someone off the street..and no punishment?? this is bogus what is he an Illegal immigrant to be judged in a manner Superior to us ordinary citizens!!! Why do we coddle criminals!!

[softwarecreator]

Why do we coddle criminals!!

We don't ... we torture terrorists by putting panties on their head and pointing at their genitals. - sarcastic comment against our hypocritical (liberal) judicial system

[Delta 21]

Is it any wonder that the Nation of Islam thought us ripe for an ambush after this circus was in charge of the world for 8 years?!!?

[Archon of the East]

That is what is poisoning my support in those politicians in whom I have faith to do what is right while they are indeed in power.

You definately have to wonder why the hell wasn't this a big deal to anyone in congress. I don't really know what else to say about it but that it REALLY makes you wonder.......

[softwarecreator]

Perhaps the goal is to have America attacked again.
Perhaps the goal is to encourage theft of CODE LEVEL documents.
Perhaps the goal is that morality just isn't ground in the dirt low enough yet.
Perhaps those at the top work with, for, or on behalf of, directly or indirectly, al Qaeda.

Yes, yes, yes and yes. this is the Democratic wet dream

[Doctor Raoul]

Exactly what was his government status that allowed him access to sensitive material?

Helping to prepare materials/testimony for the 911 Commission.

[Txsleuth]

Did you see the thread earlier with an article written by James Carville?

He wrote an article outlining why the Republican Party is stronger than the Democrat Party, but then listed "survey results" that tried to show the opposite---one of the questions on the survey supposedly showed that if the option was available for both Bush and Clinton to run for Pres. for a 3rd term, Clinton would win!

In other words, a sex abuser, liar, is preferable to a religious "war-monger"....

Clinton should be apologizing to every military person for putting them in this position by being delinquent on the job.

[TexasTransplant]

Gimme a Mulligan here folks,

Thomas Jefferson was RIGHT
"We get the Government that we deserve"

Now as far as the other quote, it was JFK at the Whitehouse

"I think this is the most extraordinary collection of talent, of human knowledge, that has ever been gathered together at the White House, with the possible exception of when Thomas Jefferson dined alone."

Compared to our Founding Fathers, todays Leadership comes up considerably short, I do believe that just a few short years ago Sandy would have been quietly escorted to the rear of the building and shot, and the report of that weapons discharge would have been heard only by him and the citizen that dispatched him.

This powerful form of Communication seems to have lost favor in our enlightened times, and we suffer for it.

TT

[Fast1]

OK did not know that thanks!

[Delta 21]

Its probly just me, but I immediately thought of Vince Foster.....then Admiral Boorda.

[Fatigued Mother]

This makes me comepletely ill. I can't believe that he even plays innocent in saying he didn't know because had he REALLY not known, he wouldn't have had to stuff papers in his pants or his socks! His punishment isn't enough. Banned for 3 years??? He should be banned for LIFE.

[TexasTransplant]

I didn't think of Vince Foster
(I will however make it a point to ask Saint Peter when we meet, just exactly how Vince made his departure)
Admiral Boorda had more class wrapped up in his belly button lint than Lt Kerry could ever hope to assemble in all of his houses, yachts, cars, friends and like minded political cohorts combined.

[softwarecreator]

Clinton should be apologizing to every military person for putting them in this position by being delinquent on the job.

He should be apologizing to every American and it's allies for teaming up with Carter and selling America out. These two negotiated deals which made them look like heroes at the time, but now we see they were played for chumps. We are now paying the price and may pay even more in the coming few years.

[Txsleuth]

You mean the negotiated deals like the ones that the EU and Russia have made with Iran to supply them with the nuke materials they need to build their weapons to threaten the whole world with?

Those negotiated deals?

[softwarecreator]

Yeah. The US is getting it from both ends, the Clinton legacy and our good buddies abroad. So where do we turn now?

[softwarecreator]

That should read:

Yeah. The US is getting it from both ends, the Clinton legacy and our good buddies abroad.

So where do we turn now?

I forgot to turn off the italics.

[PLMerite]

People like that (Dems, mostly), don't think rules apply to them, and if they find out the rules *do* apply, then they think (with lots of encouragement from the courts) that they can get off with "I'm sorry."

[Txsleuth]

I guess its like my parents used to tell me growing up--

You just have to learn to rely on YOURSELF and don't expect anyone else to clean up your messes or fix your mistakes..As long as you have you, things will be in your control, which is the safest place.

I guess the good ole US of A needs to rely on OURSELF and don't expect any help from anyone...which is what Bush has pretty much done, but then you get the wussy left like Kerry screaming and hiding under the bed and crying for someone to come "help"....

[SierraWasp]

"de-briefed"

This might be a fitting treatment for the little Sandy Burglar creep, except, don't expect me to watch!!!

[John Lenin]

Oh rook, nukreer secrets

[SierraWasp]

"Clinton would win!"

Only if another Perot dude helped like last time!!!

[SierraWasp]

Priceless!!!

[John Lenin]

The blue smocks are priceless ...

[SierraWasp]

And the Neanderthal foreheads!!!

[John Lenin]

The other guy is saying.

I go trell da boss, chew wait ere

[SierraWasp]

Too funny!!!

[lainie]

Where are the journalists? Who are the Woodward & Bernstein of the right?

[tang-soo]

This is a vanity article I posted last summer when this story first broke. I make the point through personal experince with classified data, that Berger's claims of an 'honest' mistake is an absolute lie.

As with the Clintonistas' Modus Operandi in the past, they count on the media not asking the difficult questions. Also, they count on those in the public with no personal experience or knowledge to know any difference when they lie. My goal with this article is to pose the difficult questions and to inform those without personal knowledge of how classified data is handled how the circumstances posed by Berger and his defenders is a lie.

I called our local Clear Channel station the night after this story broke and spoke for about 10 minutes describing the procedures used to handle classified information. The following is a basic description of what I said ...

1) A person who wishes to review classified information at a given facility must have his/her clearance on file with the security office that has legal custody of the information.

2) Once they arrive to the facility, they must show their credentials to identify themselves, sign into the facility - maybe issued a badge indicating their clearance and access and escorted to the room where the material will be reviewed.

3) A quick sidebar on program access and document marking. The term "Access" refers to the concept of "Need to Know". The fact you have a clearance that matches the level required to have access to the material does not establish your "need to know". It must be determined by someone like a program manager or security personnel that your job function requires access to certain information. If you are granted access, you may be required to go through another level of investigation. Some levels of access (at least the ones I was exposed to) are known as "Special Need to Know" or SNTK (pronounced Snick) and "Special Access Required" or SAR. Programs with these designations require special prominent markings on each page of a classified document along with the classification level. Believe it or not, after all the markings (top and bottom) there usually is enough room for the content of the page.

4) I should also mention that each paragraph of the document starts with a designation indicating the classification level of that paragraph. This would look like (U), (C), (S), (S/SAR), (S/SNTK), (TS) or (TS/SAR). Every page is marked top and bottom based upon the highest level of any paragraph on that page. ie. it's possible to have an unclassified page in a top secret document. And as you might think, the overall classification of the document is classified at the highest level of any single page.

5) This next point is especially important in light of the current investigation. Every page is marked "Page x of y Pages". For example page 13 of a 32 page document would be clearly marked in the banner section of the page "Page 13 of 32 Pages". This is done for obvious reasons - if any page is missing, it can be accounted for. The page count is also part of the document's registration in the security catalog.

6) Once in the room, the container (probably a safe i.e. a very heavy duty file cabinet with heavy combination locks with different combinations on each drawer) is opened. This process should be logged by security personnel.

7) The documents are taken from the container. All classified documents are stamped (each page) with items such as a control number, date of creation, level of clearance (top and bottom), program name indicating what access is required and eventual dispensation (i.e. when the material is designated to destruction if applicable).

8) If the documents are classified "top secret", each document has a log on the cover sheet. EACH time a person has access to this information, they must sign and date it.

9) The material is not to be removed (ie stuffed in underwear, socks ... etc) without approval of security personnel. If this takes place, the transfer is documented on both ends of the transaction. If the material is top secret or above, it requires at least two cleared people as an escort.

10) If you travel overnight, the material is not to be kept in your hotel/motel room but instead must be taken to an approved facility. Arrangements are usually made in advance. Security people do not like suprise visits. They like to make them but not receive them.

11) No photocopies are to be made or notes copied without the proper security personnel logging this activity and making appropriate markings (mentioned above) on the documents.

12) This material is frequently audited by internal security agents and is subject to "suprise" audits conducted by military, FBI or other external security personnel.

13) People given access to this type of information are briefed and attend classes on how to handle this material - ie. no excuses for "honest mistakes".

14) As the NSA for the Clinton administration, I imagine Berger was personally responsible that this protocol was designed, implemented and enforced by his staff - at least in an appropriately managed administration. This would apply to government employees, officials, military personnel and civilians under contract and extended clearances issued by the DoD, DoE or other intel operations.

15) As such, ANYBODY who has worked in this environment and heard Mr. Berger's comments yesterday about being "sloppy" and "an honest mistake" knows beyond any doubt that he was not only lying, but this was a premeditated act.

16) I left the aerospace business(as an engineer) in 1993 so these comments are based upon the security world of that time. Only Lord knows how the Clinton administration changed things during his 8 years.

That summarizes what I mentioned to Steve Cannon of WTVN 610 AM (Columbus, Oh) the night after the story broke.

I should have added another issue that may pertain to the current case. The concept of "Working papers". This would be scratch material that is never intended to end up in a document being prepared. For example, preliminary drafts, graphics with various scales, handdrawn sketches, ... etc. Usually, this kind of material is kept in a folder or envelope which is marked as a regular document would be. This folder falls under the same criteria as a regular document ie locking up when not being used ... etc. Usually, this material is collected on a regular basis when the work is finished and tossed into a "burn barrel". The burn barrel is emptied periodically by cleared personnel and either burned or processed through an approved shredder (ends up as dust).

The latest word I have heard is that this material was classified "Code Word Access". Folks, if true, this is "Above Top Secret" ie. John Pollard type material.

So the question comes to mind, why would anybody do such a thing under conditions where he knew he stood a huge chance of being caught? The mission must have been extraordinary for such a risk. The presumption is that he wanted to alter or remove and destroy material that implicated either himself, or quite possibly Mr. Clinton. The fact that some of the material is "lost" implies that regardless of the consequences, the mission has been accomplished with his current situation collateral damage.

Webb Hubbell's infamous quote "I guess I'll have to roll over again for Hillary" comes to mind. Another example of the Clinton whirlwind leaving a trail of destruction in its wake.

I should stress that I'm no security expert - but I did work in that environment for nearly 12 years as an engineer in the aerospace industry (stealth technology). Amongst my duties, I was also the secured computer contact person during our department's audits with "The customer" and the FBI. This included things like proving procedures were being followed concerning the registering, cataloging and tracking of classified storage media, secured networks, hardcopy audit trails ... etc. It was not very exciting work - very boring but also needed.

Because of this work, I have a good idea of what that part of the world looks like. Who knows though after #42 and his crowd. I remember how O'leary (spelling) turned the DoE upside down with her wacky ideas of security. Remember the classified media supposedly found behind the copy machine during the Wen Ho-Li case? I have a friend who works for a private computer consulting firm that is contracted by the DoE and I think the DoD to perform inspections at government and contractor facilities. He told me the rules changed significantly during Clinton's years (to the worse) but I have no first hand knowledge

[Doctor Raoul]

Did Steve share any of that with the people of Columbus?

[Uncle Vlad]

Whenever I think about these clowns and the disaster they inflicted on our country for eight long years, I thank God that we have grownups in charge again. The present administration isn't perfect by a long shot, but it's so much better than what we had.

[pageonetoo]

But-why-is-all-of-this-is-being-handled-with-kid-gloves-now -that-Republicans-are-in-charge?

...cause he's got my back, boys...

[SeaBiscuit]

This stinks to high heaven, something is definitly wrong here, Berger should be in jail.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1376105/posts

[Solamente]

Maybe the Illuminati is in charge after all...

[pageonetoo]

...the truth is out there...

[tang-soo]

Steve Cannon allowed me to talk abot it for 15-20 minutes which is a rather long time for a call in show, He thought it was very enlightening. He didn't believe Berger either.