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Schiavo 's parents sought, were denied own expert to observed autopsy
Tampa Bay's 10 ^ | April 2, 2005 | AP

Posted on 04/02/2005 7:17:15 PM PST by FairOpinion

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To: SoCar
Evidently we have been having some genocide going on in our own country. This case wasn't the first. This time it's not about race. It's about money and those who are deemed inconvenient to their families or society. It started with those deemed unfit in Germany. The Jews were targeted later.

Distasteful though it is, the horrible reminders are relevant.

41 posted on 04/02/2005 8:24:58 PM PST by Aliska (Theresa Marie Schindler, December 3, 1963 - March 31, 2005, Never Forget)
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To: planekT
Judge Greer was able to order this because it exists in the law an assumption that the husband (or spouse) is the one to make these decisions. Because there were other witnesses besides Michael (all Shiavos which should have been a factor but wasn't) to Terri saying she'd want to die, and the Doctors appointed saying she was in PVS, this was allowed to happen.

It was evil and wrong. But occurred more in a "loophole" of the law and because of bad circumstances for Terri. Such as big $ for Michael to hire to best lawyers and pro bono novices for the Schindlers. Combined with a pro death Judge Greer.

It all sucks but is not Nazi Germany. Not even close.

42 posted on 04/02/2005 8:26:45 PM PST by SoCar (Refugee from NJ)
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To: FairOpinion
Coz Dr. Cyril H. Wecht is a media hound..He's been on almost every news/talk show there is. And he's in a bit of hot water in PA.
43 posted on 04/02/2005 8:27:15 PM PST by ReeWalker
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To: Voir Dire

Absolutely.


44 posted on 04/02/2005 8:27:17 PM PST by TAdams8591 (Evil succeeds when good men don't do enough!!!!!!)
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To: Aliska

This was evil and wrong but I do not believe that we have a genocide going on in this country. I respect your belief that we do but I see no proof of it.


45 posted on 04/02/2005 8:29:06 PM PST by SoCar (Refugee from NJ)
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To: SoCar

"It all sucks but is not Nazi Germany. Not even close."


Not YET...

First the brain damaged, then the slightly brain damaged, then the disabled, then the "elderly" and that could be defined as anyone over 40, as the Supreme Court just decided in their allowing age discrimination suits, then those who are a trouble to the government, and on it goes.

I certainly hope we won't get to that, but nobody would have imagined, when Hitler got elected, how it will end up either.

The statements about Nazi-like behavior does NOT in any way intended to diminish the horrors of the Holocaust, it is pointing out the slippery slope.


46 posted on 04/02/2005 8:32:39 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: kingattax

that is one SCARY link!!! Eeeks........I wouldn't live in the state of Florida if someone paid me to do so!!!!


47 posted on 04/02/2005 8:33:29 PM PST by pollywog (Psalm 121;1 I Lift my eyes to the hills from whence cometh my help.)
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To: ReeWalker

So Cyril is a media hound. Big deal. What have they got to hide?


48 posted on 04/02/2005 8:33:42 PM PST by SoCar (Refugee from NJ)
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To: harpo11
I heard today that there is a move to ask Gov. Jeb Bush to appoint an independent counsel to investigate Terri's case.

what are the chances that this will be done? where did you hear this?

49 posted on 04/02/2005 8:34:34 PM PST by pollywog (Psalm 121;1 I Lift my eyes to the hills from whence cometh my help.)
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To: FairOpinion

Are "guest" examiners common?


50 posted on 04/02/2005 8:37:37 PM PST by eddie willers (Charter Member of the WPPFF)
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To: SoCar
It was evil and wrong. But occurred more in a "loophole" of the law and because of bad circumstances for Terri. Such as big $ for Michael to hire to best lawyers and pro bono novices for the Schindlers. Combined with a pro death Judge Greer.

Yes, but unless something is done to stop the deathmongers, future murders are going to be easier rather than harder to push through. And since murder could easily become a very profitable business, the possibilities for expansion are quite real.

51 posted on 04/02/2005 8:37:38 PM PST by supercat ("Though her life has been sold for corrupt men's gold, she refuses to give up the ghost.")
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To: eddie willers

Do you consider this a "common" case?


52 posted on 04/02/2005 8:39:07 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion
The statements about Nazi-like behavior does NOT in any way intended to diminish the horrors of the Holocaust, it is pointing out the slippery slope.

Problem is that with the vivid pictures and the Nazi flag it does serve to diminish the horrors of the Holocaust, even without meaning to do so. At any rate, it does to me. I have to admit though that I really always seem to turn off to "slippery slope" arguments. I find them not compelling and off putting. But if you want to make them I understand. Is it possible to do so without such graphic pictures of starving Jews and the Nazi flag? As a Jew on the side of Terri and the Schindlers I find it distasteful and not persuasive. And I doubt that's just me.

53 posted on 04/02/2005 8:40:04 PM PST by SoCar (Refugee from NJ)
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To: Cicero
I think Diogenisis is right on the mark.

No...he's being silly...as are all who are saluting his Nazi flag.

54 posted on 04/02/2005 8:40:45 PM PST by eddie willers (Charter Member of the WPPFF)
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To: SoCar

Look more closely at who lobbied that loophole into the law. You may come to the conclusion that her death was pre-meditated murder for profit.

Thanks for the posts.


55 posted on 04/02/2005 8:41:07 PM PST by planekT
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To: FairOpinion

Oh right, this is going to be fair and balanced autopsy.(sarcasm)


56 posted on 04/02/2005 8:41:09 PM PST by freekitty
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To: Voir Dire
Greer gives new meaning to "the law is an ass".

The term is "The law is a ass".

57 posted on 04/02/2005 8:43:02 PM PST by eddie willers (Charter Member of the WPPFF)
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To: planekT

I have looked at it and I find it highly suspicious and worthy of more investigation. However, I do stand by my opinion that the US is not in danger of becoming Nazi Germany.


58 posted on 04/02/2005 8:43:33 PM PST by SoCar (Refugee from NJ)
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To: FairOpinion

Is this not the most revolting thing you have ever heard?

I think it's time to start investigating this group of murderers.


59 posted on 04/02/2005 8:45:02 PM PST by freekitty
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To: FairOpinion
Do you consider this a "common" case?

You didn't answer my question. I've never heard of guest examiners for any case.

And except for the hoopla (cause by money grubbing by one or both sides) yep...happens every day.

60 posted on 04/02/2005 8:46:34 PM PST by eddie willers (Charter Member of the WPPFF)
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