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The Tragedy Of Terri Schiavo And The Need To Overthrow Judicial Tyranny (Don Feder Alert)
Cold Steel Caucus Report ^ | 03/30/05 | Don Feder

Posted on 04/04/2005 4:34:38 AM PDT by goldstategop

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To: Salvey
The judiciary has become our equivalent of the mullahs.

Exactly. The Men in Black have successfully staged a coup d'etat.

41 posted on 04/04/2005 8:42:21 AM PDT by FormerACLUmember (Honoring Saint Jude's assistance every day.)
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To: maryz
Cruel and unusual punishment -- despicable as it may be, France has enough problems!

Well......I said I was trying to be nice! I figured the French fit in nicely with their delusional ilk. Besides, the little terrorists would just find their way back... wouldn't they? Ok.. fire up the ovens, build the gallows and GET A ROPE!

42 posted on 04/04/2005 8:46:42 AM PDT by LaineyDee (Don't mess with Texas .....wimmen!)
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To: goldstategop

This is what the framers feared...Our most potent enemies are those within our country!


43 posted on 04/04/2005 8:49:08 AM PDT by Edgerunner (Proud to be an infidel) (Scientology must be stopped from murdering disabled people)
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To: i_dont_chat
To coin the phrase, let them all be "Schiavo'd".

Naw...... too easy.... too peaceful. (/sarcasm) Now.... fireants...hmmm. We could be imaginative with that. :)

44 posted on 04/04/2005 8:50:00 AM PDT by LaineyDee (Don't mess with Texas .....wimmen!)
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To: Diogenesis

Please provide the URL (web address) for the patient record on Terri Schaivo you posted. I want to verify its authenticity.


45 posted on 04/04/2005 8:59:02 AM PDT by retarmy (Been there, done that, and have the scars to prove it. . .)
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To: retarmy
Please provide the URL (web address) for the patient record on Terri Schaivo you posted. I want to verify its authenticity.

You gotta be kidding! Well, go here and read to your hearts content.

46 posted on 04/04/2005 9:04:03 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Life is always the Right choice)
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To: goldstategop
It would save us the process, time and cost of having to get rid of them.

I had a real nightmare with all this. I dreamed that I came upon a car wreck and everyone in the car was severely injured. A cop took out his pistol and just started "putting everyone down" like dogs. When I yelled at him to stop....he looked at me as if I was nuts. He was putting them out of their misery....and saving the state a great deal of money. I think I had an overdose of Greer on FR, before going to bed.

Point being....something HAS to be done about this...and it disturbs me that many people are so cavalier about our renegade justices. (Freepers being the exception) It doesn't affect them (yet) so they don't care. Pretty scary.

The generation coming up has no sense of patriotism, has the "me" mentality and never learned what our constitution really is..... and a total lack of understanding what sacrifices were made to keep our country free.

47 posted on 04/04/2005 9:05:10 AM PDT by LaineyDee (Don't mess with Texas .....wimmen!)
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To: potato
I've been here since 1997. I know how the judiciary works, and I know how the Left and the media (but I repeat myself...) use the judiciary to further their agenda.

Do you know how many federal judges there are? And do you know the phrase that the AP begins most of its black-robed clown alerts with?

Ann Coulter has it right: "Polls claim that a majority of Americans objected to action by the U.S. Congress in the Schiavo case as "government intrusion" into a "private family matter" – as if Judge Greer is not also the government. So twisted is our view of the judiciary that a judicial decree is treated like a naturally occurring phenomenon, like a rainbow or an act of God."

48 posted on 04/04/2005 9:33:58 AM PDT by an amused spectator (If Social Security isn't broken, then cut me a check for the cash I have into it.)
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To: goldstategop
Its not just Jeb. Every executive and legislative official loses bladder control when a judge harshens his tone. For a seemingly powerless branch, the judiciary has picked up Machiavelli to a degree that leaves politicians envious. And they're ruthless to their enemies.

Very true! It's not just Jeb. Every executive and legislator goes to the lawyers to ask permission before they do anything. What they really need to do is consult Constitution scholars. Don't they wonder about a conflict of interest when they ask lawyers about judicial questions?

49 posted on 04/04/2005 10:14:04 AM PDT by Emily RN
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To: anniegetyourgun
I fear the only thing the nation will learn from this case is that it is "more humane" (and certainly better PR) to off the "lesser" humans quickly than slowly.

Truer words have not been written.

50 posted on 04/04/2005 11:21:38 AM PDT by Kryptonite
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To: DJ MacWoW
You wrote, ”You gotta be kidding!” Let me ask you how you could think that I would kid about something as serious as this? Do you think that just because it is posted here that it is true? If so, you are serving yourself poorly. I check source material before I believe anything –especially from blogs and certain mainstream media. I am not influenced by emotion and rhetoric, but by logic and truth. If you have not yet realized it, there are three sides to this sad tragedy, the parent’s side, the husband’s side, and the truth, which may or may not be somewhere in between. I want to know the truth, not simply read propaganda from either of the other two sides. You should be glad I want to know, not sarcastic.

The reason I asked that question is that the climate that has existed, and still exists, regarding Terri’s life and death has placed an atmosphere of doubt over everything and anything that is either posted on the Internet, or written in the media. I live here in Pinellas County, work here, and vote here and I have been following Terri’s story since the beginning of the 1990’s, when the lawsuits began. While I was against removing her feeding tube, I was and am vehemently against the federal government usurping the rights of the citizens of Florida. The truth about Terri’s life will make a difference in how I and my family vote in the next elections.

That being said, I found interesting, and some conflicting information at the site you attached, but what struck me the most was the report of Dr. Jay Wolfson, DrPH, JD, Guardian Ad Litem for Theresa Marie Schiavo. The last two paragraphs of his report to the governor are so very telling, especially for those of us who have followed Terri’s life for so long. He wrote,

”Until and unless there is objective, fresh, mutually agreed upon closure regarding measurable and well accepted scientific bases for deducing Theresa's clinical state, Theresa will not be done justice. There must be at least a degree of trust with respect to a process that the factions competing for Theresa's best interest can agree. To benefit Theresa, and in the overall interests of justice, good science, and public policy, there needs to be a fresh, clean-hands start.

The Schindlers and the Schiavos are normal, decent people who have found themselves within the construct of an exceptional circumstance which none of them, indeed, few reasonable and normal people could have imagined. As a consequence of this circumstance, extensive urban mythology has created toxic clouds, causing the parties and others to behave in ways that may not, in the order of things, serve the best interests of the ward.

51 posted on 04/04/2005 11:44:41 AM PDT by retarmy (Been there, done that, and have the scars to prove it. . .)
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To: goldstategop
It will take a major confrontation between our elected officials and the judiciary to bring the latter to heel and save the Constitution and representative government in America.

What a great article. I agree 100% with it, and also your comment. It's going to take a lot of effort our part to force a change. They've gone too far this time, and everyone knows it. Even the Village Voice got it right. In the court of world opinion, we've lost the high moral ground. The lack of support was bad before, but what about the future? America cannot claim to be acting on moral principles, because we obviously don't have any. We're screwed, unless we demonstrate that we won't put up with corruption and murder. We need to fix this now!

We're going to have to expend the same amount of energy that the Schindlers did to save their daughter.

52 posted on 04/04/2005 12:05:07 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Free Mexico!)
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To: Diogenesis
Greer should be arrested this morning, tried, and convicted for conspiracy to murder."


53 posted on 04/04/2005 12:10:23 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: anniegetyourgun

Annie, it's TIME for you and every other American to get your gun" and put these little despotic twits out of office. Also, it's time that Governor's and Presidents upheld their Oaths of Office or they should also be removed. Enough is Enough when you start starving and dehyrdrating a human being to DEATH!! The reason? : INCONVENIENCE. OUTSTANDNGLY SHAMEFUL.!!


54 posted on 04/04/2005 12:11:53 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South !)
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To: nuconvert

An atrocity is right. Furthermore, the Constitution gave Terri Schiavo, just everyone else, the INALIENABLE RIGHT TO LIFE .... (In otherwords, Judge Greer has NO AUTHORITY to give away or transfer Terri Schiavo's or anybody else's right to life. Even Terri didn't have the right to give her riht to life away". In addition the Florida state constitution declares unequivocally that in the State of Florida, "the supreme executive power shall be vested in a govern...". The word supreme means highest in authority. There can be no executive authority in the state higher than the governor. No state law can create an executive authority higher than the highest in the Florida constitution. Therefore no court order based upon such a law can constitutionally create such an authority. Whatever happened to those Governors that "swear to uphold the laws of the Constitutions of their States"? They are NOW afraid of these local judicial nitwits? UNBELIEVEABLE!!


55 posted on 04/04/2005 12:27:51 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South !)
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To: Canadian Outrage

Govern = Governor! Sheesh, a few spelling errors there.


56 posted on 04/04/2005 12:31:20 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South !)
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To: potato
For 15 years judges have looked at this case carefully.

No, they never once reviewed the evidence. They refused. They thumbed their noses at the law that entitled Terri to an evidentiary review (a de novo hearing.)

Do we stampede over States Rights because we don't like this case?

States' Rights do include the right to violate citizens' rights. Slavery is an example of that limitation. So is murder. Terri's rights were violated on many levels, culminating in her murder. That is not a State's Right.

Do we Ignore the sanctity of Marriage because we heard that the Husband might have conflicts of interest?

Please don't redefine "sanctity of marriage." Adultery resulting in two bastards is not sanctity of marriage. Murdering your spouse is not sanctity of marriage. Abusing your spouse, stealing from your spouse, and dehumanizing your spouse is not sanctity of marriage. A marriage license is not a bill of sale.

It happens every DAY in this country but there are no cameras to record it.

It used to happen every day in Germany. Sometimes, there were cameras.

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Richard Jenne, killed at Kaufbeuren-Irsee euthanasia facility

They did not have health insurance. This tragedy is part of life.


"This person suffering from hereditary
defects costs the people 60,000
Reichmarks during his lifetime. People,
that is your money. Read 'New People'."

57 posted on 04/04/2005 1:05:13 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Impeach Judge Greer - In memory of Terri Schindler - http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: retarmy
I didn't check your signup date. Obviously this info really IS new to you. Everyone here knows the bone scan is for real and some have argued that everyone BUT Michael Schiavo broke those bones. There was a link to the court document that Schiavo filed to block the testimony of Dr Walker. The title is still on Terri's Fight but the doc is no longer there. Of course, Dr Walker was NOT asked for his testimony. Another broken link document by Judge Greer stated that although it would be interesting to pursue the bone scan, it wasn't relevant to the case. (The possibility that he beat his wife wasn't relevant?)

There may still be some live links as I haven't tried them all. Just click on "Court Documents" on the left. You'll need PDF to read them. There are also videos of Terri on the front page.

Terri's Fight

58 posted on 04/04/2005 3:27:53 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Life is always the Right choice)
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To: Canadian Outrage

Ping!


59 posted on 04/04/2005 3:53:29 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (Evil succeeds when good men don't do enough!!!!!!)
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To: amdgmary

They are going to have to join forces with others who have already begun to work on this effort.


60 posted on 04/04/2005 3:55:21 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (Evil succeeds when good men don't do enough!!!!!!)
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