Gospel of Judas back in spotlight after 20 centuries

Middle East Online ^ | 2005-03-30 | Patrick Baert

[Ol' Dan Tucker]

Of course I have "scientific" proof. Why would I have faith in something without evidence?

Okay. Let's see your scientific proof that Jesus is the Son of God and that he was resurrected as described in the Bible.

[Ol' Dan Tucker]

Can you prove to me that Julius Caesar was a real person and not the creation of some fevered imagination? Maybe someone faked the tales and others then added him to the scrolls of histories. Maybe others made statues of what he "Might" have looked like

You miss my point. Re-read the thread.

[GatorGirl]

Wasn't Judas so consumed by guilt he hanged himself?

When did he have time to write a gospel?

[AppyPappy]

I said I have proof. I didn't say I could show it to you. Every Christian has proof of the existence of Jesus and His Resurrection.

[Mark in the Old South]

I am not going to bother with much of you post I will let it speak for itself. But on the following:

Re: "Like God could not pick his own leaders and guide the "church" himself.. <<- rhetorical question..
He did in the beginning, and still does.. I think.."

God did pick the leader of his Church. It was Peter and it is clear the other apostles and disciples considered him so. It is in all four Gospels, Acts and even in some of Paul's letters. Remember two of the Gospels were written by a Apostle so if there was any question among them it might have shown itself.

You are correct God continues to guide the Church. The Holy Ghost will be in full force when the conclave meets to select a new Pope. The problem most have is they assume God always picks a saintly man but sometimes it is the weakness of a man that is selected. The failures of man moves us in ways we can not fully understand but God does.

The rest of your post I will leave alone.

[Ol' Dan Tucker]

I said I have proof. I didn't say I could show it to you. Every Christian has proof of the existence of Jesus and His Resurrection.

Like I wrote.

You don't have scientific proof that Jesus is the Son of God or that he was resurrected as it's written in the Bible.

You have faith.

There is a difference, whether you choose to acknowledge it or not.

[hosepipe]

[ I am not going to bother with much of your post I will let it speak for itself. ]

I agree, doing that with you, myself..
You are specifically and exactly where your supposed to be..
I don't have a problem with that..
Actually I was posting for lurkers anyway..
Two monologues does not a conversation make..

[AppyPappy]

You don't have proof that Jesus is the Son of God or that he was resurrected as it's written in the Bible.

Yes I do. Otherwise, there would be no reason to believe. You seem to not believe in personal evidence. Do you believe that evidence that cannot be shared is not evidence?

[Verginius Rufus]

That should be Pope Damasus (reigned 366 to 384), not Damascus.

[Raycpa]

Can you point me to the scientific proof that Jesus was the Son of God and was resurrected as told in the Bible?,

No proof, just evidence. Do you have a proof, your mom is your mom?

[Verginius Rufus]

And when did Judas have time to learn Coptic?

[1stFreedom]

ooops!

Thanks..

[Verginius Rufus]

According to the Gospel according to St. John, the inscription on the cross was in Hebrew, "Roman," and Greek.

In Acts 21.37, Paul speaks to the Roman tribune ("chiliarch" or commander of 1,000 according to the Greek text) and the tribune responds in surprise, "You know Greek?" so obviously Paul had been speaking to him in Greek.

It was common in that era for educated Romans to be fluent in Greek...they started studying Greek at a young age.

[Verginius Rufus]

Interesting list of dates. Whose dating are you following?

[Raycpa]

Follow links in my posts. The back up is there.

[P.O.E.]

What information are we burying in sealed containers?

In case the unthinkable does happen. Has anyone thought of burying a Rosetta stone of sorts for future generations (say, 4,000 years from now). Paper decays, electronic info is notorious for becoming unreadable (e.g., format changes - think Edison Cylinders). With modern technology, some etched metal should be relatively cheap.

[Ol' Dan Tucker]

No proof, just evidence. Do you have a proof, your mom is your mom

Yup. It's called DNA.

Do you have DNA evidence that proves that Jesus is the Son of God?

[hosepipe]

[ It was common in that era for educated Romans to be fluent in Greek...they started studying Greek at a young age. ]

True.

[muir_redwoods]

There are many, many gospels around. The strangest one I've read is the "Arabic Gospel of The Infancy" about Jesus' childhood. Google it and you can download the entire thing, it's about 10-15 pages and an amazing read.

[Ol' Dan Tucker]

Yes I do. Otherwise, there would be no reason to believe. You seem to not believe in personal evidence. Do you believe that evidence that cannot be shared is not evidence?

So, now we go from scientific evidence, to "scientific" proof, to personal evidence?

You do not have scientific evidence.

You have faith.

Whether you acknowledge it or not, there is a difference between the two.