The Aftermath: Lessons from Terri Schiavo’s Life and Death

Breakpoint with Charles Colson ^ | April 5, 2005 | Mark Earley

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[Raycpa]

The day we need an essay on "why its wrong to starve someone to death" is the day this country has lost its moral compass.

[MACVSOG68]

Many commentators are suggesting that the legal fiasco surrounding Terri was foisted on us by Christian zealots. This view is totally untrue

Mr. Colson is correct, the legal fiasco was not foisted on us by Christian zealots, but the legal process was certainly the victim of a hijacking attempt by some of them.

[exDemMom]

The day we need an essay on "why its wrong to starve someone to death" is the day this country has lost its moral compass.

Then we'd better get out there and start searching for it, ASAP. Apparently, about 9% of our fellow citizens see nothing wrong with killing a disabled person (recent Zogby poll). That number is way too high for comfort.

[KDD]

The hysterical grasping to this commissioned poll by Zogby, which bore no resemblance to any other poll taken in the country is humorous to watch. I suspect "life news" commissioned it with the questions worded by them so ambiguously as to be meaningless as it relates to the Schiavo case.

No one's buying it.

[exDemMom]

The Zogby poll was the only one that asked questions actually relevant to the Schindler case. The ABC poll completely misrepresented the facts--it was what is often called a "push" poll.

[bvw]

So you'd be in the murder the voice-free camp, I take it?

[cyn]

fwiw, I detect no 'hysterical grasping' in your post.

[MHGinTN]

You got that right ... all except the way she was executed: she was dehydrate to death.

[KDD]

You're into the state dictated forced feeding of vegatatives?...against their wishes?...keeping a hole through their stomach and into a hole in their intestine that never heals and is always a serious open wound?

Applying such torture to those who do not even having the cognitive ability to acknowledge the person wiping their butt and changing their diaper for 15 years or longer?

And if you agree with the Schwindlers, then you also would have no compunction in chopping off all her limbs and ripping the heart out of her body to replace it with one that would keep that body "alive" or at least breathing. You live that way if that is your choice. You will never impose such sick thinking on me.

There was no murder. Just a judgement that is perfectly reasonable given the fact that a vast majority of people affirm that were they Mrs Schiavo, they would hope the Judge would make the same decision on their behalf.

[Raycpa]

Do you water your house plants?

[KDD]

The ABC poll was only one of many polls.

And even their(ABC) percentages were only an average 5% off the others.

Google.

[KDD]

No

[Western Phil]

" those who do not even having the cognitive ability to acknowledge the person wiping their butt"

Sounds quite a bit like what newborns are. Hope I never have to look to you for kindness and/or help.

This lady, though apparently quite disabled, was not dying from anything until they decided to do the Goebels experiment and see how long it would take to dehydrate her. I would not vote for that kind of torture for anyone.

[harpo11]

"Fifth, advocates of killing Terri claim that she was unaware of her situation and thus incapable of suffering. If that’s true, Johnson argues, then her death cannot be justified as “relieving suffering.”

I read that Terri's miserly husband refused to give her dental care or that her teeth be cleaned daily resulting in her having to have 5 decayed teeth removed.

I wonder if the oral surgeon gave Terri a sedative, novocaine, or general anesthesia to remove her teeth?

Or, because they thought she was pvs, removed the teeth without pain medication?

It would be interesting to find out what they did and if it would contradict Schiavo attorney, death loving Felos.

[Reddy]

#1- Wow, you actually call disabled people VEGETATIVES? #2- Now a feeding tube is "torture"? #3- A person must be able to respond in an appreciative manner in order to be taken care of? (If so, I had better cut off all food and water to my 24 and l9 year old sons.) #4- "a vast majority of people affirm that were they Mrs Schiavo, they would hope the Judge would make the same decision on their behalf" is cause to starve and dehydrate a person who never expressed those wishes in the first place? Gee, a vast majority of people wish that Hillary would disappear, wonder if the Judge could make that happen. Please??!!

Reddy

[johnb838]

Schwindlers? Wy don't you find another forum to disrupt.

[KDD]

Most people considering themselves in such a state before the fact would probably prefer an overdose of medication to starvation.

Few would want to live in such a condition but few would want to die in the way she did either.