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To Stop Deadly Virus in Angola, Group Seeks Hospital's Closing (Much bad news here)
NYT ^ | 4-9-05 | `

Posted on 04/09/2005 5:42:01 PM PDT by Mother Abigail

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Angola is in the southeast area of Africa.


61 posted on 04/09/2005 7:09:30 PM PDT by eyespysomething (Friend of the WPPFF)
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To: Covenantor
I'm really puzzled by the recommendation to close hospitals. Yes, if you get Marburg, you die, and if you're at a hospital you may infect health care workers and other patients.

The solution should be not to admit Marburg patients, not to deny treatment to all other residents for every other problem. My best guess is that Doctors Without Borders is simply getting weak-kneed about this. They're French-based, of course.

Without any treatment options, the only solution is quarantine. Whether that can be achieved is certainly questionable.

62 posted on 04/09/2005 7:09:51 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: lainie

Good. I haven't turned on the television since very early this morning, so I'm not in any position to judge TV coverage today. It was all Prince Charles when I had the tube on.


63 posted on 04/09/2005 7:12:34 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone

(what the heck was she wearing on her head?)


64 posted on 04/09/2005 7:13:21 PM PDT by lainie
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To: Mother Abigail

I, like Judith Anne, would sure like the know what is happening with the 9 under quarantine in Italy. My feeling is the longer it goes without sounding an all clear to Marburg the better the chance it is and they don't want to say..........


65 posted on 04/09/2005 7:15:06 PM PDT by united1000
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To: eyespysomething
Southwest area of Africa.
66 posted on 04/09/2005 7:15:33 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: BearWash
"I think these comments apply to Avian influenza H5N1 as well."


"And then some."


On 3/31/5, H5N1 infected an entire family of five in Haiphong, signaling a major change in H5N1 evolution.
H5N1 has finally achieved efficient transmission to humans.

67 posted on 04/09/2005 7:16:19 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("If you mess with one of us, you mess with all of us")
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To: lainie

I thought all brides wore sheaves of wheat in their hair. She looked like a regular harvest.


68 posted on 04/09/2005 7:17:28 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: united1000

Thanks. I am definitely concerned about the Italians in isolation.


69 posted on 04/09/2005 7:17:32 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: Judith Anne

The demographics began to change several weeks ago when the first health care workers were infected. The number of workers who have died is at least 12. In the past 1-2 weeks deaths have been reported for the first time in the four provinces surrounding Uige.

The latest reports do not have as much detail on the age of patients or the breakdown of locations. They also do not update the status of the passenger in Portugal being tested (a report on the third passenger was scheduled for release last Thursday), or the suspect cases in the Democratic Republic of Congo. There have also been media rumors of additional cases in Cabinda.

The number dead has surpassed the record of 126 for Marburg and now appears likely to surpass the record number of 280 Ebola deaths. Although contact tracing efforts are increasing, the 20 newly diagnosed patients who have not died indicate that the number of contacts should be at least 2-4X the 100 being monitored or traced by WHO. Media reports indicate that 16 are under hospital quarantine in Cabinda and 9 are under quarantine in Italy. These 25 under quarantine are linked to just two of the 155 deaths.

The case fatality rate of 100% and rapid spread of the virus in five provinces is markedly different than prior Marburg outbreaks.


70 posted on 04/09/2005 7:19:02 PM PDT by EBH
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To: EBH
Lack of Marburg Virus Survivors Creates Civil Unrest in Angola

Fourth Bird Flu Fatality in Kampot Cambodia

71 posted on 04/09/2005 7:20:37 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("If you mess with one of us, you mess with all of us")
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To: Dog Gone
I suspect that because the inital symptoms present as something flu / fever like that that quick assessment cum diagnosis may not uncover Marburg/Ebola. Then what happens when the full eruption occurs? Remember that these victims are usually brought in by the full extended family, so that one presenting victim may in fact be bringing say 6 to 16 exposed family with him. So testing of so many with overextended equipment which may of itself be a vector may the reason that Medecins sans frontieres faced the hard choice. Quarantine seems to be the only cruel answer in these circumstances.

Paradoxically IIRC the first outbreaks of Ebola were partly contained because the suspicious villagers blockaded the roads and paths and turned away all travelers, thus assisting the virus burn itself out. Sometimes the farm fold remember effective strategies.

72 posted on 04/09/2005 7:22:47 PM PDT by Covenantor
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To: EBH

Again, thank you for your informative posts.


73 posted on 04/09/2005 7:23:50 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: Covenantor

"The initial symptoms are a severe frontal & temporal headache, generalised aches & pains, malaise, by the second day the victim will have a fever. Later symptoms include watery diarrhoea, abdominal pain, nausea, vomiting, a dry sore throat, & anorexia. By day seven of the symptoms, the patient will have a maculopapular (small slightly raised spots) rash. At the same time the person will develop thrombocytopenia & haemorrhagic manifestations, particularly in the gastrointestinal tract, & the lungs, but it can occur from any orifice, mucous membrane or skin site. By day twelve the skin starts to peel away from the rash. Ebola causes lesions in almost every organ, although the liver & spleen are the most noticeably affected. Both are darkened & enlarged with signs of necrosis. The cause of death is normally shock, associated with fluid & blood loss into the tissues.

The haemorrhagic & connective tissue complications of the disease are not really understood, but may be related to the fact that the VP40 protein is antigenically related to human cell matrix proteins (abdominal aortic aneurism protein & MFAP-4), leading to autoimmune attack.

74 posted on 04/09/2005 7:25:20 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("If you mess with one of us, you mess with all of us")
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http://www.recombinomics.com/News/04090502/Marburg_Lack_Survivors.html Recombinomics Commentary April 9, 2005

>> Allarangar Yokouidé, an epidemiologist with the World Health Organization, told reporters that more than 80 percent of those who contracted the virus in Angola had died, a mortality rate that surpassed previous Ebola epidemics in the region. "Marburg is a very bad virus, even worse than Ebola," he said. <<

The case fatality rate for Marburg in Angola is above 99.4%. There is at most 1 survivor out of 181 outcomes. Thus, hospitalization offers little hope for survival, which has led to mistrust by local residents.

Mobile surveillance operations in Uige have ceased because of damage to vehicles and threats of violence. It is unclear if health care workers have been killed because of the unrest, but clearly contact tracing has been limited in the Uige, which is the epicenter of the outbreak.

Therefore management by contact tracing and quarantine will be difficult. The lack of survivors has also led to relatives hiding sick patients because no one has come out of the hospital alive. However, care by untrained and unprotected relatives leads to further transmission. This transmission has now reached Luanda, Angola's capital.

The 3 million residents of Luanda will get increasingly concerned as the virus spreads in Luanda and the number dead increase. The lack of any survivors creates more suspicion about the motives of health care workers and those trying to monitor and quarantine contacts of infected patients.

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Doesn't sound good.

75 posted on 04/09/2005 7:28:57 PM PDT by Covenantor
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To: Covenantor
That may well be correct. I'm completely unfamiliar with the culture of Angola and whether victims seek medical care for flu-like symptoms. Whether medical care is free in Angola is another thing I don't know.

I did see elsewhere that a 21 day quarantine is supposedly in effect for anyone leaving the Uige province. How and whether that can be enforced seems entirely debateable.

76 posted on 04/09/2005 7:30:08 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone

Gack!!! As if living in the southeast I would know the difference.


77 posted on 04/09/2005 7:31:59 PM PDT by eyespysomething (hmmm....)
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To: Covenantor
Thanks for the ping to this thread Covenantor. If they're closing the hospitals (which makes me think of the 1976 Ebola Zaire outbreak, only much worse) they ought to close or restrict flights in/out of the airport.

Here's another nightmare scenario: 38% of the population is Roman Catholic. It's an extremely poor country so I very much doubt the likelihood, but picture a planeload of people flying to Rome for the Pope's funeral, with one or of them infected by Marburg...

78 posted on 04/09/2005 7:32:16 PM PDT by Heatseeker (Requiem in Pacem, Ioannes Paulus Magnus)
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To: jungleboy
SARS spreading was/is completely different.... You cannot compare bum chuck Africa from megalopolis China, imho.

Of course they are very different.

What is NOT different is that, as soon as the Hong Kong epidemic was identified, travel from China should have been stopped. If this had been done, the Toronto epidemic would have been prevented.

It is criminally negligent to allow transport category aircraft to take off from Luanda. Do you disagree?

79 posted on 04/09/2005 7:32:53 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God)
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To: Diogenesis

Yes, but IIRC the symptoms that present in the first 4 to 7 days could also be any number of other diseases in central Africa, or over here for that matter. That's what punches the primal fear button in observers here.


80 posted on 04/09/2005 7:33:21 PM PDT by Covenantor
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