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Third flight abandoned by airline (Phuket Air, disaster waiting to happen)
BBC ^ | 4-10-05 | None

Posted on 04/10/2005 1:57:30 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser

Third flight abandoned by airline

An airline which twice abandoned take-off attempts when passengers said they saw fuel gushing from a plane's wing has suffered another safety scare.

Britons flying with Phuket Air out of the United Arab Emirates on Sunday were left stranded by the halted take-offs.

On Wednesday, a separate Phuket Air Boeing 747 had to return to Gatwick three hours into a flight to Bangkok because of a hydraulics fault.

UK officials have grounded the plane until repairs have been completed.

Engine shut down

It has emerged that an engine had to be shut down while the plane was airborne.

The plane, which had taken off from the Sussex airport at 0830 BST and landed back at 1137 BST, has been grounded by the Department of Transport.

A spokeswoman said it would not be permitted to leave the UK until the damaged engine had been repaired or replaced.

An airline spokeswoman said on Wednesday: "There were 82 people on today's flight, which flew into Gatwick from Sharjah last night and had suffered a hydraulics problem.

"Though it was thought the fault had been corrected, the plane suffered the same problem this morning."

'Gushing' fuel

The passengers were transferred to London Heathrow to take alternative flights, said a British Airports Authority spokeswoman.

On Sunday, around 200 Britons travelling with Phuket Air stopped their plane when many said they saw fuel gushing out of the wing of their aircraft.

Pilots abandoned two take-off attempts as screaming passengers threatened to storm the cockpit.

The airline later said the aircraft had been overfilled with fuel by ground staff and had not been a danger to passengers.

But several passengers refused to board another of the company's planes and others were left stranded in the UAE following further problems and delays.


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KEYWORDS: airlines; airplanes; aviation; phuket
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I was just talking a few days ago about how this is a disaster waiting to happen, I've seen their planes, they are beyond decrepit. They have a 737-200 that still has the longwave antenna strung to the tail, they fly ancient Japanese build YS-11 turboprops, and to everyone's horror, they are flying very junky 747-200's.

Every time I see this airline in Thailand, I say a little prayer, I was going to fly them from Udon Thani to Chiang Mai, but when I found out they were the only airline, and it was on a YS-11, I changed cities.


1 posted on 04/10/2005 1:57:31 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser
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To: Aeronaut; Paleo Conservative

Could you put this on the aviation ping list?


2 posted on 04/10/2005 1:59:29 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser (Remember when conservatives embraced the rule of law?)
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To: Central Scrutiniser

Their name AND their motto?


3 posted on 04/10/2005 2:02:00 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (Let Me Die on My Feet in the Swamp, BUAIDH NO BAS)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Phuket is pronounced foo ket, a great place, I've spent lots of time there.

But the airline, whoa, avoid at all cost.


4 posted on 04/10/2005 2:03:08 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser (Remember when conservatives embraced the rule of law?)
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To: Central Scrutiniser

Sounds even worse than "Lucky Airlines?"


5 posted on 04/10/2005 2:04:18 PM PDT by garyhope
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To: Central Scrutiniser

They said, "Ah, Phuket," and went home.


6 posted on 04/10/2005 2:06:37 PM PDT by peyton randolph (Warning! It is illegal to fatwah a camel in all 50 states)
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To: Calpernia; Velveeta; WestCoastGal; DAVEY CROCKETT; appalachian_dweller; jerseygirl

Ping


7 posted on 04/10/2005 2:07:49 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny (Airspeed, altitude, or brains. Two are required to successfully complete a flight.)
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To: Central Scrutiniser

With a name like Phuket, it has to be good.


8 posted on 04/10/2005 2:07:57 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Proud infidel since 1970.)
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To: Central Scrutiniser
I can see a perfect slogan for these guys.

When everyone else is busy ... just go Phuket.

9 posted on 04/10/2005 2:08:30 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Nations do not survive by setting examples for others. Nations survive by making examples of others)
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To: Central Scrutiniser
"Hey, Dave, you flying this thing today?"
"Nah, Phuket. I'm driving instead."
10 posted on 04/10/2005 2:09:01 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Proud infidel since 1970.)
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To: Central Scrutiniser

I was wondering how you pronounced that.........;^)


11 posted on 04/10/2005 2:10:38 PM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
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To: Central Scrutiniser; Tijeras_Slim; FireTrack; Pukin Dog; citabria; B Knotts; kilowhskey; ...

12 posted on 04/10/2005 2:11:14 PM PDT by Aeronaut (I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things - Saint-Exupery)
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To: Central Scrutiniser

Those planes is all phuked up.


13 posted on 04/10/2005 2:11:20 PM PDT by HEY4QDEMS
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To: HEY4QDEMS

John Phuket Kerry?


14 posted on 04/10/2005 2:31:03 PM PDT by al baby (Dick Trickle is not just a medical condition)
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To: Aeronaut
Great looking plane, you can almost feel the patches. I can only imagine the number of cycles on that pig. They also have some ancient KLM 747-300's.


15 posted on 04/10/2005 2:51:50 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser (Remember when conservatives embraced the rule of law?)
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To: Central Scrutiniser
An airline which twice abandoned take-off attempts when passengers said they saw fuel gushing from a plane's wing has suffered another safety scare. Britons flying with Phuket Air out of the United Arab Emirates on Sunday were left stranded by the halted take-offs.

This snafu lead to the following cockpit recording.

Phuket Tower: Flight 192, please be advised that fuel is gushing from your right wing.

Flight 192: Phuket, we're taking off anyway.

Phuket Tower: Phuket, you're dead meat.

16 posted on 04/10/2005 2:55:36 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Cleverly Arranging 1's And 0's Since 11110111011...)
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To: Central Scrutiniser

That photo is very disturbing. Sheesh.


17 posted on 04/10/2005 2:58:00 PM PDT by Petronski (I thank God Almighty for a most remarkable blessing: John Paul the Great.)
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To: Central Scrutiniser
Phuket is pronounced foo ket

Well, the name of the island is pronouced "Poo Ket". In most translations, the PH is a "hard" P. In any case, Thai's don't say Fooket.

18 posted on 04/10/2005 3:02:04 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: Petronski

Back in the late 80's, my airline got 4 747-200's from KLM, they were trashed when we got them 15-19 years old, with over 17,000 cycles on them. One was the plane that lost 3 engines over the Redoubt volcano in Alaska and nearly crashed, and one was nicknamed Christine the Hangar Queen. Pieces fell off of them, they had aborted takeoffs, and I was on a flight where the main gear punctured the fueselage, which cancelled 4 days and 8 flights. All 4 planes were made into beercans a long time ago.

And we had a very good maintenance shop, I've seen the Phuket Air planes in person, they are shocking, I can only imagine their maintenance. There is another dodgy carrier over there that flies 747-200's, Orient Thai, I'd stay away from them too!


19 posted on 04/10/2005 3:04:59 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser (Remember when conservatives embraced the rule of law?)
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To: Doe Eyes

I say poo ghet, but most farangs say foo ket.


20 posted on 04/10/2005 3:05:54 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser (Remember when conservatives embraced the rule of law?)
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To: Central Scrutiniser
That might be the worst looking 747 I've ever seen. The amount of fluid on the tail is disturbing.
21 posted on 04/10/2005 3:11:27 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Lazamataz
On Wednesday, a separate Phuket Air Boeing 747 had to return to Gatwick three hours into a flight to Bangkok because of a hydraulics fault.

What you said is a lie.

Does that matter to you?

22 posted on 04/10/2005 3:13:30 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: Central Scrutiniser

"TWA 2341, for noise abatement turn right 45 Degrees."

"Center, we are at 35,000 feet. How much noise can we make up here?"

"Sir, have you ever heard the noise a 747 makes when it hits a 727?"


23 posted on 04/10/2005 3:13:34 PM PDT by datura (Fix bayonets.)
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To: Central Scrutiniser
"There were 82 people on today's flight, which flew into Gatwick from Sharjah last night...

Eighty two people on a 747? No wonder they have to skimp on maintenance.

24 posted on 04/10/2005 3:14:26 PM PDT by FreePaul
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To: FreePaul

We once flew a 747 from Nagoya Japan to Honolulu with 3 in the cockpit, 18 flight attendants, one Flight Service Manager, and one passenger for a 9 hour flight.

He got upgraded.


25 posted on 04/10/2005 3:17:32 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser (Remember when conservatives embraced the rule of law?)
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To: FreePaul

After looking at that photo, I'd say that they have to spend lots of extra money on hydraulic fluids and oil absorbents for their parking areas. Pilot's walk arounds must require an umbrella.

I somehow don't think that the Boeing design team ever intended for these aircraft to be owned by companies that had so little capability to maintain them.


26 posted on 04/10/2005 3:19:11 PM PDT by datura (Fix bayonets.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
Their name AND their motto?

phuket if you can't take a joke!
27 posted on 04/10/2005 3:29:57 PM PDT by MEpajamaMONSTER (Bad dawg baaad dawg)
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To: Central Scrutiniser

"Hey, you forgot to put the gas cap back on," "ahhhh Phuket"


28 posted on 04/10/2005 3:33:55 PM PDT by Husker24
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To: Central Scrutiniser

They're still flying YS-11s short haul? Holy jeez, those things are about 35-40 years old, aren't they? I'm sure they're decently designed planes and all (I know Piedmont flew them for a while around the Southeast) but I'm not sure I'd want to get on a Third World airliner that's that old.

And as for that 747-200 pic...I thought Air France's planes were dirty, but that's the nastiest-looking airplane I've ever seen. They obviously aren't spending the money saved by scrimping maintenance on soap, water, and Turtle Wax.

}:-)4


29 posted on 04/10/2005 3:38:22 PM PDT by Moose4 (Richmond, Virginia--commemorating 140 years of Yankee occupation this month.)
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To: Central Scrutiniser

<< I was just talking a few days ago about how this is a disaster waiting to happen, I've seen their planes, they are beyond decrepit >>

It gets worse.

Phuket Air elected to non-rev ferry the aeroplane back here to Thailand for "maintenance" rather than let the Limeys get their hands on it.

Notwithstanding Brit "engineers'" [Mechanics] inclination to demonstrate their frustrations at their powerless by grounding anything they can get their hands on, I find it an indictment by implication that Phuket flew the grounded aircraft home on a ferry permit, empty, rather than fix it down the line and revenue-operate it back to Thailand.


30 posted on 04/10/2005 4:24:10 PM PDT by Brian Allen (I fly and can therefore be envious of no man -- Per Ardua ad Astra!)
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To: Doe Eyes
Thai's don't say Fooket.

So when you're in a Thai cab next Priday morning, don't porget to petch the poreign luggage prom the trunk, and don't drive too par into the porrest past the hotel.

31 posted on 04/10/2005 4:31:21 PM PDT by Cvengr (<;^))
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To: Brian Allen

I saw Thai Sky L1011 last time I was there, old Delta bird, good to see some of them escaped the wrecker. One of their L10's got turned into the wreckage for the TV show "Lost"


32 posted on 04/10/2005 5:15:09 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser (Remember when conservatives embraced the rule of law?)
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To: Central Scrutiniser
Besides looking like hell and giving a visual confirmation of the poor maintenance on the hydraulics the filth on the airframe will cost them a few knots in air speed and a ton of money on fuel burn.

PHUKET I would rather walk.
33 posted on 04/10/2005 5:16:16 PM PDT by cpdiii (Oil Field Trash, Roughneck, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist, (OIL FIELD TRASH was fun))
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To: Central Scrutiniser; COEXERJ145; microgood; liberallarry; cmsgop; shaggy eel; RayChuang88; ...
Ping!

If you want on or off my aviation ping list, please contact me by Freep mail not by posting to this thread.

34 posted on 04/10/2005 6:57:31 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Andrew Heyward's got to go!)
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To: al baby; HEY4QDEMS; Central Scrutiniser; Prophet in the wilderness
John Phuket Kerry?

I wonder if they service Nantucket?

35 posted on 04/10/2005 7:10:54 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Andrew Heyward's got to go!)
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To: Central Scrutiniser


Got some replacement parts on her, does she? yikes!

what's up with the gear puncturing the fuselage on that other one you were talking about? The mounts failed?
36 posted on 04/10/2005 7:17:52 PM PDT by F15Eagle
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To: peyton randolph

Didn't Jim Phuket QB the Raiders to a Super Bowl win many moons ago?


37 posted on 04/10/2005 7:21:16 PM PDT by MassRepublicanFlyersFan
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To: Central Scrutiniser

Another safety scare for Phuket Air 747 jet

Cyber Divers News Network

by Suzi Austin

PHUKET, Thailand (7 Apr 2005) -- A plane which was grounded twice earlier this week with fuel gushing from a wing was yesterday involved in a fresh safety scare.

A Phuket Air Boeing 747 bound for Bangkok was forced to return to London Gatwick airport after developing hydraulics problems a few hours into its journey.

Passengers described how they were gripped with terror as one of the jet's engines had to be shut down mid-flight and 50 tonnes of fuel dumped before the plane landed.

Officials have now grounded the aircraft, and it will not be allowed to fly out of Britain until the damaged engine is repaired or replaced.

The plane was the same craft which was grounded twice in the United Arab Emirates on Sunday as fuel flooded from a wing.

Pilots abandoned two take-off attempts as passengers threatened to storm the cockpit. The 200 Britons on board were left stranded.

In yesterday's incident, the plane was carrying 82 people. It took off from Gatwick at 8.30am and landed back at the airport at 11.37am.

Passenger Mike McElhinney, from Frome, Somerset, said even the crew looked terrified. He added: ' Knowing they were scared made it much worse. It was the longest hour of my life. Grown men were weeping.'

Other passengers said the plane was in poor condition, with broken interior lights and torn seats.

Phuket Air claims all its aircraft are only 15 years old and in good condition. But Boeing reportedly said the carrier's 747s were 25 years old


38 posted on 04/10/2005 7:21:32 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Andrew Heyward's got to go!)
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To: Central Scrutiniser

Why are people still visiting that place?


39 posted on 04/10/2005 7:25:39 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: Central Scrutiniser

Looks like Phuket Air describes their attitude about maintenance.


40 posted on 04/10/2005 7:26:15 PM PDT by guitfiddlist (When the 'Rats break out switchblades, it's no time to invoke Robert's Rules.)
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To: F15Eagle

I never got a good answer, flight left HNL about 9 pm, after about 40 minutes we turned back, sat on the ground for 3 hours, got back on, sat for 2 hours, then they cancelled it. They couldn't get the gear doors closed and didn't want to fly 5 hours with it open back to the mainland.

I nonreved on Phillipines Airlinesthe next morning. The next night they got the plane up and returned again. Boeing had to come out and they got it fixed 2 days later. It was our only 747 at the time, major disturbance.


41 posted on 04/10/2005 7:26:24 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser (Remember when conservatives embraced the rule of law?)
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To: Central Scrutiniser
Looks like a Boeing 747 - 200 series
42 posted on 04/10/2005 7:27:41 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The ( FOOL ) hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: BurbankKarl

I was there recently, its fine, 98% of the hotels are still there, the beaches are in great shape, and the diving is fantastic. I could very easily live there, its beautiful.


43 posted on 04/10/2005 7:27:55 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser (Remember when conservatives embraced the rule of law?)
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To: Doe Eyes

Look, I've been in the restaurants.

Where else can you order "Pud Prik King?"

It's Phuket, damnit.


44 posted on 04/10/2005 7:29:06 PM PDT by eno_ (Freedom Lite - it's almost worth defending.)
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To: Central Scrutiniser

The only thing I can say, if it's anything positive, thank God they couldn't get it closed; they might not have gotten them open again if it was that bad. Good Golly Miss Molly.


45 posted on 04/10/2005 7:34:16 PM PDT by F15Eagle
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To: Paleo Conservative; Central Scrutiniser; COEXERJ145; Prophet in the wilderness; RayChuang88; ...
Phuket Air claims all its aircraft are only 15 years old and in good condition. But Boeing reportedly said the carrier's 747s were 25 years old

They're lying. Anyone who knows anything about 747s would know that the 747 pictured could only be a 747-200. No one other than the US government was taking delivery of 747-200s in 1990, and those were for the two VC-25s otherwise known as Air Force One. Those were the last 747-200s ever delivered. All the other 747s delivered in 1990 were 747-400s. Considering that most 747s delivered between 1983 and 1989 were 747-300s, it is doubtful this plane is less than 22 years old.

46 posted on 04/10/2005 7:38:27 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Andrew Heyward's got to go!)
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA

It's no worse than the name of a Chinese restaurant that used to be in business near my home. The first time I saw a flier for the restaurant, Fookim, I thought it was a joke.


47 posted on 04/10/2005 7:43:17 PM PDT by Stonewall Jackson (Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. - John Adams)
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To: Paleo Conservative

If you can get the register number on the plane, you can find out how old it is, and when it was built.


48 posted on 04/10/2005 7:44:21 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The ( FOOL ) hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: Paleo Conservative

The one in the pic is a 200, I am not sure if this was the one with all the problems, they do fly 747-300's which are ex KLM.

I've seen both variations on the ground at BKK, as well as their ancient 737-200 with the longwave antenna, and their old UsAirways Metrojets and the Jurissac YS-11's.

Phuket Air is stopping London service and moving to Amsterdam I believe, the laws must be a bit more lax there!


49 posted on 04/10/2005 7:45:34 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser (Remember when conservatives embraced the rule of law?)
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To: F15Eagle

Yeah, I spent about 18 hours without sleep in that airport, but I got to SFO for 100 bucks on Phillipines, Mabuhay!


50 posted on 04/10/2005 7:47:00 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser (Remember when conservatives embraced the rule of law?)
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