Posted on 04/12/2005 4:23:08 PM PDT by srm913
NEW DELHI, India -- China's premier has told Japan to "face up to history," while a top Japanese official has called China "scary" as a war of words simmers following massive protests in the weekend.
The missives on Tuesday came after tens of thousands of Chinese took to the streets on Saturday and Sunday, angry at a new Japanese history book they say fails to admit the extent of Japan's World War II atrocities.
The protests -- which were the largest since 1999 when crowds rallied outside the U.S. Embassy in Beijing when three Chinese were killed in Belgrade -- also targeted Japan's bid to become a permanent U.N. Security Council member.
In the latest flare-up between the two former rivals, Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao told reporters in New Delhi on Tuesday that Japan must "face up to history squarely" and that the protests should give Tokyo reason to rethink its bid for a permanent council seat.
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Yeah. I fear for Taiwan. Not only for its security as a whole but the KMT + PFP alliance which is all too similar to our own democratic left. Lein Chan and that other guy were breaking their own laws when traveling to the PRC and it is belived that the KMT has a pact of sorts with the PRC. I just hope the DPP and TSU can contain their enemies within, pass that military budget and get their factories working overtime to produce as many of their new Hsiung Feng III (missile that outperforms the Sunburn) as possible in a short amount of time.
Yes, until either, or, one side lights up the birthday candles.
i love it.
the japanese are going to start to energize.
Blue Water refers to deep water Navy, mid Atlantic for example. Littoral Navy refers to close to the coast. Brown Water Navy (sometimes referrred to as green Navy) is inland rivers. Look at my profile and you'll see example of Brown water and Blue water Navy.
Gray Navy is the same as Blue Water, it's just referring to the color of the ships, haze gray. The term is usually only used by former Brown water navy types ;) (as a pejorative!)
They are. Rumsfeld is really pushing it. That is why he delayed $$s for a carrier for a year, and reduced the DD(X) and CG(X) budgets. They are cranking up on UAVs like it's going out of style.
I had one student at my university who was Taiwanese and who had lived most of his life in Japan and he hated the Chinese government with a passion. The Taiwanese know that the Chinese use the most blatent of double standards in the indoctination of their students: They decry the Japanese for not mentioning various atrocities (Nanking, etc) in Japanese textbooks, yet their texts actually tell children to hate groups such as the Japanese, the Falun Gong, and so on.
Furthermore, books authored by Chinese that simply state that Chinese should learn more about modern Japan before they automatically hate the country are pulled from circulation.
The Chinese gov't has successfully challenged the angers and frustrations of the unfree Chinese populace for now, but once Japan stops being a scapegoat for every wrong tha Chinese gov't does, look out world.
This is the real reason. The Chinese don't want the Japanese to have a permanent seat on the Security Council. Japan contibutes almost 20% ($321,091,920) of the total UN regular budget and China contributes 2% ($33,860,782).
The Chinese seat used to be held by Nationalist China (ROC) until it was turned over to the Communists (PRC)on November 21, 1971. The Republic of China (ROC) was one of the founding members of the United Nations and a permanent member of the Security Council from its creation in 1945.
We should never have agreed to the One China policy.
We're still #1. We have a very powerful Blue Water Navy, but we need to catch up on the littoral side. Certain countries like Denmark and Sweeden due to their geographies have only littoral Navies. But we'd still kick their butts in littoral warfare because we'd use airplanes. But it's important we build a littoral Naval force as that is where the action will most likely be next. And ships have staying power, planes can only attack and then fly home. We can do the job now, but we don't believe in even fights. Better to use overwhelming force. Which was the point of Colin Powells remarks. I'd say 2nd best is England, 3rd is Japan.
But the Brits only have 2 small carriers, we have 12 huge ones. So I guess they rank #7.
(The brown water Navy has pretty much been taken over by the Marines in Iraq. Navy guys are not as good at Marines with small weapons. I'm glad to see them do it.)
It's too late for Taiwan, Republic of China. Their business men have already shifted or are actively planning to shift their money and industries to Mainland. The current president and his DPP party look awfully confused as to what to do.
Do you have any links to stories that verify this?
They are either getting very stupid or very desperate over there, and niether one is good. I'm also concerned about India, as a country that we should have on our side, they seem to be putting themselves in a real bind by listening to China's overtures.
I was speaking in term of non nuclear Navies. Russia's Navy is pretty beat up at this point and no longer an issue.
China's navy is largely made up of junk. They have a handful of decent ships that they have purchased from Russia, but the rest is pretty said. I'm not as sure of airforces. I know we are #1 by far, 2nd might be Japan or england or france, not really sure. The chicom airforce has a lot of planes, but about 1/2 of them are 70s vintage Mig 21s that aren't even able to be refuelled in air. They have no functioning AWACs or in air refuelers. They do have some decent aircraft that they bought from Russia, but again it's only about 10-20% of their air force. Can't speak to the strength of the russian airforce, on paper their planes look ok but few have flown in combat, and I don't know numbers. They are having all kinds of issues with troops, and a lot of financial problems within their military. Here's a link to some chicom af data.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/china/plaaf-equip.htm
Let's just hope, that claimer heard in China prevail, or a overthrow ( we don't know how dangerous that could be ) of the communist government in China by pro-American forces/Pro-REAL Democracy forces, and it looks as though, now is the time for that to happen.
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