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(3rd Houston Chronicle hit-piece today) What real smoking memo might mean to Tom DeLay
Houston Chronicle ^ | April 13, 2005 | CRAGG HINES

Posted on 04/13/2005 1:07:24 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

Will Jack Abramoff be Tom DeLay's Monica Lewinsky?

No, not that way. Get your mind out of the gutter.

But remember two things.

First, Bill Clinton skirted serious trouble (regarding womanizing in his instance) until Lewinsky produced the stained blue dress. Then all his finger-wagging protestations (not to mention perjured deposition) were for naught. The DNA was damning.

Second, even after the dress, Clinton hung on despite Republican efforts to dethrone him.

That's the good news, bad news as we contemplate what it could mean to DeLay if a lobbyist starts singing for the feds.

Jack Abramoff is the once-high-flying lawyer-lobbyist at the heart of much of the recent disclosures about the House majority leader's own high flying on foreign trips.

Abramoff also is the focus of federal and congressional investigations into influence-peddling in relation to his big-bucks representational dealings (alongside a former DeLay aide) with Indian tribal casinos.

DeLay, R-Sugar Land, has denied any knowledge of the real source of funds that paid for foreign travel by himself and associates.

But DeLay defenders, both in Washington and Texas, are reading closely and with some trepidation the latest issue of Newsweek, which raises the question of whether Abramoff, if he faces indictment, might deal with prosecutors.

According to the Newsweek report (by Michael Isikoff, a leader in Lewinski reportage), Abramoff has been less than happy with denials from DeLay and associates.

"Those S.O.B.s," Abramoff is quoted as telling "a luncheon companion." "DeLay knew everything. He knew all the details."

An Abramoff spokesman Tuesday e-mailed the Chronicle a statement saying Abramoff "strongly denies" the comments. He would, wouldn't he, until a deal, if one is to be made with the feds, is reached.

Mindful, perhaps, of Lewinsky's dress, Newsweek asks the key question about what Abramoff could offer: "Does he really have the goods ... ?"

"The goods" could be any number of things. "The goods," most likely, would not be simply Abramoff's testimony. The feds almost certainly would be looking for paper. Without paper, Abramoff would be no better a witness than some of the tainted folks in the Michael Jackson case whom the entertainer's defense has shredded on cross examination (at least according to reports by trial mavens on The Coast).

"The goods" will probably have to be more even than a transparent reference to "you know who" in an e-mail between Abramoff and one of the tribes, as cited by The New York Times. The paper said a tribal official had identified the hinted-at person as DeLay.

Newsweek quotes Abramoff's lawyer, Abbe Lowell, as saying there had been "no negotiations" with the Justice Department, but that does not negate reports that Abramoff could, at some point, be open to a deal.

He's dead meat, as of now, and might not be averse to taking DeLay with him.

Could DeLay, following the Clinton model, hang on? It would be harder. For all the Republicans' high dudgeon about Clinton, it was largely a question of really bad personal judgment. If Abramoff can implicate DeLay, it would be about a question of public policy.

But as things stand now, don't put a lot of money on DeLay being seen off soon.

So while waiting for the Abramoff investigation, as well as other inquiries that touch on DeLay, to unfold, another eye has to be kept on any Republican defections from the majority leader — on either end of Pennsylvania Avenue. So far, the troops have remained in tight formation.

Would DeLay prefer that Rep. Chris Shays, R-Conn., shut up? Almost certainly. But Shays reflects such an infinitesimal (as well as predictable) slice of the Republican caucus in the House, that his disowning of DeLay barely registers on the political seismic scale.

Shays' comment over the weekend, in a town meeting in his up-market district, that DeLay is "an absolute embarrassment" to him is true. But Shays' comments were designed to protect himself from the wrath of moderate constituents.

More worrying for DeLay will have been the call of Sen. Rick Santorum, R-Pa., for the majority leader to "lay out what he did and why he did it" regarding foreign travel on a lobbyist's dime. But Santorum, too, was doing a little posturing, ahead of a re-election campaign next year in which he will be one of the most targeted Republicans incumbents.

The biggest test for DeLay is continued support from the White House. So far, so good for DeLay — unless you're willing to parse the continuing statements from spokesman Scott McClellan more finely than I am.

If Bush decides to back off from DeLay, we'll know it when we hear it (or, more likely, when we do not hear it).

Hines is a Houston Chronicle columnist based in Washington, D.C. (cragg.hines@chron.com)


TOPICS: Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: defenddelay; delay; fifthcolumn; houstonpravda; propogandawingofdnc; tomdelay
"If you've seen a chicken in the barnyard get a peck on his head so a little blood is showing, then the other chickens all rush in and peck him to death, that is the danger for Tom DeLay right now," said Charlie Wilson, a former Democratic member of Congress from Lufkin. "He's got a little blood on his head, and sometimes that is enough to get you killed." Source
1 posted on 04/13/2005 1:07:24 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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DeLay wants 'chance to defend himself' ("..strap it on, baby, because you are fixing to get it.")

GOP leader's ties to lobbyist deepen his own controversy (a headline does not a scandal make)

2 posted on 04/13/2005 1:10:06 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
 RUSH on a RAMPAGE (Linguini-Spined Republicans Beware)


Rush has had it with Phony Republicans today! -- I have a message for the Republicans in Washington. If you want to be the minority Party we'll MAKE you the minority Party or run ordinary citizens against you. People that don't care what the MSM or Dems have to say. Get off your butts and start representating US!
Rush is talking about quitting radio. What is he talking about? What happended? -- And I agree with him 100%. I don't always agree with Rush, but man, I too am sick to death of guys like Chris Shays and other totally wimpy Republicans. I am sick of people not having the GUTS to stand up for their convictions
 *Heads UP* RUSH is Pissed (should be entertaining today) -- Why do we even bother to have two parties if the Republicans won't even do what their constituents voted them in for?
They have noodles for spines & straw in their brains. It's irritating! They've gotta get out more often and pay attention. (It's here)
 
 

By the end of each business day Rush uploads most of that day's show to the free side of his website. Click on Rush's logo to go to his site.

 
 DeLay Trips Accounted for..and.. DEMS ARE TOP PRIVATE TRIP TAKERS -- here's what you can DO: make copies of this article - send it to every republican with a short letter - DEFEND DELAY!!
 Soros Shadow Party Stalks DeLay

The Truth About DeLay (The outrages against him must stop. -Ben Stein)
-- The attack against him in the Texas courts are an outrageous -- but sadly emblematic -- Democrat attempt to use the judicial system to defeat the electoral process. The DA who is tormenting him is the same one who made up an indictment of Kay Bailey Hutchison out of whole cloth to try to reverse the results of a solid electoral victory by the Republican party in Texas.  He may not be perfect, but, he is one of the best of the current crop, one of the few that really understand the problems that face our Nation and willing to take the hits from not only the Demos, but many of the wimpy RINOS that are supposed to be on the same side to see that America stays strong and safe.
 
 The Real Story Behind the Attacks on Tom DeLay -- Let's put it in terms conservatives can readily grasp: We will hang together or we will all hang separately. The attack being mounted by the Left is not directed solely at DeLay; its directed against all conservatives. They want to humiliate and discredit us all as much as they want to get rid of the House Majority Leader
 
 GOP supporters denounce call for DeLay's resignation (question Shay's motives)

3 posted on 04/13/2005 1:43:02 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an Undocumented Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trackball into the Sunset...)
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To: backhoe

Rush rocked yesterday!

He's absolutely right!


4 posted on 04/13/2005 1:52:54 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

What a shameful article, entirely composed of innuendo and speculation. Tabloids have more meat than did the article for this thread.

5 posted on 04/13/2005 1:57:30 AM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack

It's not the substance of the charge, it's the seriousness of the accusation.


6 posted on 04/13/2005 1:59:51 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Rush rocked yesterday! He's absolutely right!

I heard some of it, and he is absolutely right. It's time for us peasants to revolt, and show some of these perfumed, decadent princes the door.

7 posted on 04/13/2005 2:00:20 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an Undocumented Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trackball into the Sunset...)
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To: backhoe

Tom DeLay swelled the ranks in the House, we can afford to cut out some of the infected herd.


8 posted on 04/13/2005 2:10:08 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Southack

The Chonicle is nothing more than a LIBERAL rag - a hatchet machine for the Democrat Party.


9 posted on 04/13/2005 2:11:43 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

How can you quote someone using heresay?

Not much of a paper.

democrat speculation is news now.


10 posted on 04/13/2005 2:18:17 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: tet68

Gotta love how the (fifth) columnist basically admits that they can't get DeLay, lays out more innuendo and prays for it to stick.


11 posted on 04/13/2005 2:27:09 AM PDT by YCTHouston (Come and take it.)
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To: GOPcapitalist

Fag Hines ping.


12 posted on 04/13/2005 2:31:40 AM PDT by YCTHouston (Come and take it.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Craggy Chronic from yesterday's media.


13 posted on 04/13/2005 3:05:06 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: PGalt

This is a stellar example of what the msm has been doing to Democratic Party opposition for decades.


14 posted on 04/13/2005 3:13:03 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: All

Jack Abramoff on Google

http://www.google.com/search?as_q=&num=10&hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&btnG=Google+Search&as_epq=Jack+Abramoff+&as_oq=&as_eq=&lr=&as_ft=i&as_filetype=&as_qdr=all&as_occt=any&as_dt=i&as_sitesearch=&safe=images


15 posted on 04/13/2005 3:43:58 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (<<<< Profile page streamlined, solely devoted Schiavo research)
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To: backhoe

Yeah, I'm concerned about Rush too. News has been rough lately. We are so close to a historic victory, and we are meeting so much resistance, I think it's a strain on everyone. FReegards....


16 posted on 04/13/2005 3:45:27 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (<<<< Profile page streamlined, solely devoted Schiavo research)
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To: All

Barf alert, related:

A Lobbyist's Progress (Jack Abramoff and the end of the Republican Revolution)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1300791/posts


17 posted on 04/13/2005 4:03:58 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (<<<< Profile page streamlined, solely devoted Schiavo research)
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To: backhoe

In a way, I do wish Rush would strongly consider evacuating the US. It's a legal/beaurocratic minefield out here. He would not feel right talking about US politics if he did, I suppose.

But to me, for a statesman to be so hated he's driven into exhile, that only adds to his stature. I can't imagine how much time is taken up in his life with all the beaurocratic BS out here. How much more time would he have to focus on politics if he left?


18 posted on 04/13/2005 4:09:24 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (<<<< Profile page streamlined, solely devoted Schiavo research)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
It's not the substance of the charge, it's the seriousness of the accusation.

And apparantly, the number of chickens involved too - *bump*

19 posted on 04/13/2005 4:10:23 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Southack
This is how it goes:
  1. Allegation made.
  2. Innuendo made.
  3. Liberals "ask questions".
  4. Liberal media "asks questions about whether the questions are legitimate."
  5. Republican is "dogged with questions."
  6. New allegation made.
  7. Lather, rinse, repeat.

20 posted on 04/13/2005 4:13:29 AM PDT by AmishDude (Join the AmishDude fan club: "You are a wise man." -- Torie; "You rock!" -- TonyRo76)
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To: backhoe

IMHO this in the end is more than about DeLay...the MSM is desperately trying to see if they still have "it" ...the ability to shout a politician out of office....."they" need to know this before "they" spend any more serious bucks on a Hillary campaign..if they can't hound DeLay out, IMHO they won't waste the cash to try to run the Hildebeast.....


21 posted on 04/13/2005 4:17:36 AM PDT by mo
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
ABRAMOFF DENIES... [Rich Lowry]

...that Newsweek story from the current issue, for what it's worth. From The Forward:

"Lobbyist Denies Newsweek Story on DeLay

By E.J. Kessler

April 12, 2005

Embattled Washington lobbyist Jack Abramoff is denying Newsweek's story that he told a lunch companion that House Majority Leader Tom DeLay knew about the financing for several trips abroad that have raised ethical questions.... `Those S.O.B.s,' Newsweek quotes Abramoff as saying about DeLay and his staffers. `DeLay knew everything. He knew all the details.' Newsweek sourced the remark to an unnamed companion with whom Abramoff lunched last week.

Abramoff, however, is denying the story. `Mr. Abramoff strongly denies making the comments attributed to him in the April 18 issue of Newsweek,' Abramoff spokesman Andrew Blum wrote in an e-mail to the Forward. `He is furious that in the media's latest attempt to create a story where none exists, it now seeks to pit him against those that he has known and supported for years. Even Mr. Abramoff's unidentified lunch companion referred to in the Newsweek article has flatly denied ever stating that Mr. Abramoff said these things....'"

Posted at 10:07 PM

From National Review's The Corner

Qwinn

22 posted on 04/13/2005 4:33:58 AM PDT by Qwinn
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
In a way, I do wish Rush would strongly consider evacuating the US. It's a legal/beaurocratic minefield out here.

I often wish we could return to the freedoms we had in years past. When I was a kid, nothing was thought unusual when I rowed my boat to the pier in the Village and walked into a store to redeem coke bottles for pennies- while wearing my Mom's Colt Woodsman on my belt. ( rattlesnakes, you know, on the beach )

If I tried that now, there'd be a SWAT team called on me. And the Villagers & tourists would have an attack of the vapors.

We really have let a lot of our freedoms slip away.

Rush can, at least, afford the best lawyers & accountants to fight for him-- I'll spare you the details, but when we were involved in a running battle with the IRS a few years ago, it wasn't the hired guns, but my wife who got it settled. Combination of intelligence and charisma worked when reams of arguments on paper didn't.

I didn't hear all of Rush's show yesterday, but enough to get the drift, and I don't blame him for being fed up, personally and professionaly.

One reason I am no longer in business is the endless, never fully resolved battles with bureaucrats, regulators, and lawyers. You just get fed up after a while.

And on the political scene, when I vote for someone, I do expect them to stand for me in battle- not run away or be silent. The runaway Judiciary ( Supreme Court's juvenille Death Penalty case, Terri, etc. ) and uncontroled illegal aliens are going to be the death of this country if we aren't careful.

I want representatives who stand for something besides their own miserable careers.

23 posted on 04/13/2005 4:40:00 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an Undocumented Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trackball into the Sunset...)
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To: mo
IMHO this in the end is more than about DeLay...the MSM is desperately trying to see if they still have "it"

That's it in a nutshell- they are still a dangerous and deceitful beast. The rise of talk radio & the internet slipped by them, and it has scared them badly. But they still have power.

24 posted on 04/13/2005 4:41:56 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an Undocumented Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trackball into the Sunset...)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Greg Hines was jealous of Monica. He's the biggest (literally) lefty writer for the lib-rag Chronicle. I never have to read him because I know what he will say.


25 posted on 04/13/2005 4:44:14 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: Cboldt

Indeed!


26 posted on 04/13/2005 4:46:34 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: AmishDude

As Lyndon Johnson said, "I don't care if it's true or not, I just want to hear him deny it."


27 posted on 04/13/2005 4:47:33 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: backhoe

"The runaway Judiciary ( Supreme Court's juvenille Death Penalty case, Terri, etc. ) and uncontroled illegal aliens are going to be the death of this country if we aren't careful."

Right. And if Rush is serious about replacing the beltway GOP with ordinary people, he best be clear of all the legal and beaurocratic fallout that could hit him here in the US. In other words, be in exhile, but still fight. Doing one [savaging the GOP leadership] or the other [going into exhile] on its own leads to sheer frustration. Both together is a better contingency.

And he'll need to either lavish the local regime with gifts, or buy a tiny nation. Owning a nation can make a little money for him, hopefully through loyal, dedicated US patriots he can delegate out assignments to, preferably vets who could double as emergency body guards. But the gifts are a simpler way to go. FReegards....


28 posted on 04/13/2005 4:49:02 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (<<<< Profile page streamlined, solely devoted Schiavo research)
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To: Qwinn
Even Mr. Abramoff's unidentified lunch companion referred to in the Newsweek article has flatly denied ever stating that Mr. Abramoff said these things....'"

Thanks for the quote!

29 posted on 04/13/2005 4:49:20 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
This is a very serious allegation, and perhaps it is time for Mr. Delay to come forward and clear the air. </sarc>
30 posted on 04/13/2005 4:53:11 AM PDT by johnb838 (Santo Subito! Presto!)
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To: backhoe; All

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1382670/posts?page=18#18

The Press Shows Its Bias
TownHall.com ^ | 13 April 2005 | Linda Chavez

...He might be guilty of keeping bad company -- lobbyist Jack Abramoff, currently under criminal investigation for some of his activities on behalf of Indian gaming interests, was on the Russia trip and may have ginned up the contributions that paid for it -- but at the time DeLay took the trip, he had no way of knowing how unsavory his companions were...


31 posted on 04/13/2005 4:57:59 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (<<<< Profile page streamlined, solely devoted Schiavo research)
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To: johnb838

32 posted on 04/13/2005 5:00:27 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

William Wallace could definitely clear the air. FReegards =]


33 posted on 04/13/2005 5:08:50 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (<<<< Profile page streamlined, solely devoted Schiavo research)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
CRAGG HINES is a living, breathing, walking turd!!

This rag is the NYTimes of the South!

I canceled years ago.

Why Houston with it's 4 million metro population can't get a second daily is dumbfounding!

34 posted on 04/13/2005 5:09:23 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: TexasCajun

We have Internet, talk radio and cable.

Newspapers are on the way out.


35 posted on 04/13/2005 5:10:56 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: backhoe
Rush was on fire yesterday! I love it when he's raging!

NY state is trying to rip him off for millions in taxes, even though he lives in Florida and commutes to NY.

36 posted on 04/13/2005 5:11:17 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Newspapers are on the way out.

So true, but men like to have some reading material when visiting "The Library".

37 posted on 04/13/2005 5:13:40 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The worst of all the Cragg Hines slander, is that the Comical posts his picture with all his hit pieces.... Why he struts that fat and ugly face (pigman) adds insult to every reader's intelligence.

Hines has been whooped with the ugly stick and it apparently affects his opinions and physical beauty(my own childish retaliation against this left-wing commie).

My post is as reasonable as his/The Comical's assertions and daily grinding of Tom Delay.....

I feel better now....

38 posted on 04/13/2005 5:23:03 AM PDT by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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To: TexasCajun

Might I suggest, The Weekly Standard, National Review or The American Spectator as reading material?


39 posted on 04/13/2005 5:26:07 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: cbkaty

40 posted on 04/13/2005 5:27:27 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: TexasCajun
Pix of Cragg Hines----WARNING...turn away...he's hidious.....


41 posted on 04/13/2005 5:27:33 AM PDT by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The author only uses 5 if's and 8 woulds. If Tom Delay were a chicken he would be dinner.


42 posted on 04/13/2005 5:27:55 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Thinking alike?


43 posted on 04/13/2005 5:28:06 AM PDT by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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To: cbkaty

HA HA HA ....


44 posted on 04/13/2005 5:30:40 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Raycpa
If Tom Delay were a chicken he would be dinner.

Clever post.

45 posted on 04/13/2005 5:32:07 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I get my weekly Washington Times and am thinking of subscribing to Human Events.


46 posted on 04/13/2005 7:27:42 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; YCTHouston
No, not that way. Get your mind out of the gutter.

Unfortunately that sort of "gutter" is where Fagg Hines' mind is for most of the year.

47 posted on 04/13/2005 10:19:11 AM PDT by GOPcapitalist ("Marxism finds it easy to ally with Islamic zealotism" - Ludwig von Mises)
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To: GOPcapitalist; Cincinatus' Wife; cbkaty

This is the same detached & objective "Mr." Hines who once called DeLay a “self-righteous prig.”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1011869/posts


48 posted on 04/13/2005 1:59:46 PM PDT by YCTHouston (Come and take it.)
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To: YCTHouston; Cincinatus' Wife; cbkaty
Don't forget - He's also the same "Mr." Hines who once wrote told State Rep. Phil King to "give the unctuosity a rest, baby cakes"

http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/1011869/posts

49 posted on 04/13/2005 7:13:27 PM PDT by GOPcapitalist ("Marxism finds it easy to ally with Islamic zealotism" - Ludwig von Mises)
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